Affeinvasion
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CFB Week 10: The Florida Georgia Line
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Who actually said that seriously?
Frustrated_Grunt
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The only reason I can think of for Ole Miss's ranking is they had them at number 1 before the LSU game. It just seems a bit too forgiving otherwise.
Both of your examples are SEC teams. If you play in a conference where more teams are ranked early on, you have more chances for ranked wins that will help you rise faster in the polls, even if the ranked teams you beat end up imploding down the line.
What I'm arguing is that it would be easier for an unranked Tennessee to get to #1 than an unranked Indiana.
Obviously not all power conferences are equal in strength, but there have been enough times when a pre-season ranked team turns out to be a bust.
It also ties the playoff committees hands when a bunch of teams are already perceived to be very good due to the earlier rankings.
I don't think it would fix the problem, but it could certainly help.
Mac the KNife
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Barf
Holy shit, lol. Oh, wow.
Randolph Freelander
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Suckas who be hella cray.
Nice screen cap, hoss, but I suggest rewinding the conversation a bit further. That line of hypothetical thought was inspired by a decidedly different claim about TV ratings.
That said, I'm surprised at the lack of credit Notre Dame is getting, deserved or undeserved. That loss against Florida State on the road has some controversy around it. If Florida State is #2, I don't know why Notre Dame is 10, I really don't. I'm surprised the committee currently sees them that way. And, yes, I thought Notre Dame would get more credit than any other school in the same position.
Schmitty
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Read em and weep!
Concerning the CFB Playoff rankings: FUCK THIS SYSTEM I HATE IT BRING BACK THE BCS
3 SEC teams??!! Ole Miss just lost! Are they are out of their minds?
Ah, yes, the overreaction and outrage that fuels First Take.
Schmitty
Member
lol I'm being hyperbolic
GAF Pick'em Week 10 Games
(THU) Florida State @ Louisville by 7
Duke @ Pittsburgh by 4
Northwestern @ Iowa by 4
Maryland @ Penn State by 4
NC State @ Syracuse by 4
TCU @ West Virginia by 10
Auburn @ Ole Miss by 4
Stanford @ Oregon by 7
Tennessee @ South Carolina by 7
Texas @ Texas Tech by 10
Arizona @ UCLA by 6
Utah @ Arizona State by 4
(THU) Florida State @ Louisville by 7
Duke @ Pittsburgh by 4
Northwestern @ Iowa by 4
Maryland @ Penn State by 4
NC State @ Syracuse by 4
TCU @ West Virginia by 10
Auburn @ Ole Miss by 4
Stanford @ Oregon by 7
Tennessee @ South Carolina by 7
Texas @ Texas Tech by 10
Arizona @ UCLA by 6
Utah @ Arizona State by 4
sf2fanatic
Member
Alright finally the fanatic with a 10 spot correct in pick ems. It feels like I barely learned to FADC to Ultra combo.. *sigh
chicko1983
Member
Suckas who be hella cray.
Lol, I think youll find that I said if FSU go unbeaten, and ND win the rest of the season, they would be in the playoff ahead of the Ducks if they win the Pac-12 championship. I still stand by that, but you wont be able to screen cap me until the end of the season....
I also dont agree with your sentiment that "If we win out, we're in". Discounting my thoughts on ND, TCU and Kansas State will be pushing Oregon for the fourth spot if either of them win out. They both have more ranked opponents left on their schedule than Oregon. I think Alabama will jump Oregon if they win out from here as well. So that is potentially four opponents leapfrogging Oregon in the playoff equation, even if they win out from here.
I am surprised that ND is so far behind FSU rank though, given they almost beat them. I expect a lot of public outcry regarding this and they will be higher in the next playoff ranking if they dont lose no doubt.
And Im not cray or upset by the rankings at all - I have only slight allegience to Ole Miss, and even that is not really based on anything other than I like their colours.
Here's another story to add to the heap about how unpredictable recruiting can be: 4 star WR Carlos Strickland was in Lubbock on an official visit to see Tech lose to West Virginia, then he was on an official visit to TCU this past weekend to see Tech lose a game 82-27, then today he decides to commit to the Red Raiders. Before his visits started, he had named a top 2 of UCLA and TCU.
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Apparently he didn't actually make the TCU trip. General point still stands, though.
Wins and losses often don't matter as much in recruiting as the fans think they do.
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Apparently he didn't actually make the TCU trip. General point still stands, though.
Wins and losses often don't matter as much in recruiting as the fans think they do.
chicko1983
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GAF Pick'em Week 10 Games
(THU) Florida State @ Louisville by 4
Duke @ Pittsburgh by 4
Northwestern @ Iowa by 4
Maryland @ Penn State by 4
NC State @ Syracuse by 4
TCU @ West Virginia by 4
Auburn @ Ole Miss by 4
Stanford @ Oregon by 4
Tennessee @ South Carolina by 4
Texas @ Texas Tech by 4
Arizona @ UCLA by 4
Utah @ Arizona State by 4
(THU) Florida State @ Louisville by 4
Duke @ Pittsburgh by 4
Northwestern @ Iowa by 4
Maryland @ Penn State by 4
NC State @ Syracuse by 4
TCU @ West Virginia by 4
Auburn @ Ole Miss by 4
Stanford @ Oregon by 4
Tennessee @ South Carolina by 4
Texas @ Texas Tech by 4
Arizona @ UCLA by 4
Utah @ Arizona State by 4
chicko1983
Member
Investigate him for payments made by Tech!
Came here to post this. This is how i feel, especially the TA&M part.
devildog820
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They do a lot of cheerleading. Remember tOSU v Michigan in 2006? Or how SEC games would be left off game day visits (since corrected) because CBS was showing the game? They used to pump ACC and B1G like nobody's business when ABC showed mainly those games.
You know, this article has some good points, and then it has some convenient "let's leave this part out" kind of stuff like when he tries to talk up Clemson's performance against Florida State and doesn't mention that was the game Jameis was suspended for or that Clemson completely choked the game away. Also, let's just ignore the fact that Auburn's best win is over a one loss Kansas State team, while Notre Dame's is against who? A three loss Stanford? It's pretty obvious why Auburn is ranked higher right now.
Like I said, there's some good points, and then there's some points that are ignoring whatever doesn't support his argument. It just makes me shake my head.
Lol yea "Judgement Day 2006". Wasn't aware that they didn't go to SEC games back in the day. I agree with some points of the article but I also know that is in ESPN's financial favor for the SEC to be so highly thought of so I really don't even blame them.
There's so much season left that the rankings are kinda pointless right now, just talking points.
Yeah the SEC echo chamber, circle-jerk is still in full effect. Unfortunately I think members of the committee are being bamboozled by old tired bullshit arguments from the coaches and ADs. How about putting some 538 members on that board and not some political blowhards looking for the buffet and fame and entrenched football lame-brains?
The SEC is good, yes. They just aren't that good folks.
I'm sorry, but look at who ND plays the rest of the of the season. They're not going to climb from 10 to 4 to jump us when they don't even play a conference title game. We'll see what happens with the Ducks, but I can just about 100% guarantee you that we're not going to be left out if we win the rest of our games.
chicko1983
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ND have two remaining ranked opponents. Their only loss is to the currently undefeated defending national champions in the last minute. They have beaten one ranked opponent already.
Oregon play at least one, but it will be two if they make the championship game. Their only loss would be to an unranked opponent at home. They have beaten two ranked opponents already.
So even if the Ducks win the championship, their strength of schedule is not much, if at all, better than ND. I would rate ND's harder due to the travel and playing their hardest opponent on the road (FSU) compared to Oregon (Michigan St).
So I have looked at the rest of the season, and made my decision: a one loss ND gets in ahead of a one loss Oregon.
People are bitching about SEC bias, but the polls will sort themselves out. This is actually a really good ranking from 1-25. I'm impressed with the committee's first poll. I expected some wacky voting. The SEC won't have more than 2 teams in the final playoffs, and I think even that would be a long shot. Still, it's a damn good conference, and I'm glad the voters understand this. Even in down years, the SEC is better than the rest.
Those who get mad about the state of affairs only now know how fans of SEC teams felt for decades. We were constantly snubbed because running the table in the conference is incredibly difficult. Let our teams get their shine. For decades, the Big East and Big10 dominated the title scene, despite being considerably weaker conferences. Let us have our time. PEACE.
Those who get mad about the state of affairs only now know how fans of SEC teams felt for decades. We were constantly snubbed because running the table in the conference is incredibly difficult. Let our teams get their shine. For decades, the Big East and Big10 dominated the title scene, despite being considerably weaker conferences. Let us have our time. PEACE.
BertramCooper
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Exactly. Which is also why I doubt there are two SEC schools in the end. The best way to maximize viewership is to have teams from every region. Their ideal playoff this year would probably be ND, FSU, Alabama, Oregon.
When did the Big East dominate the title scene?
bucknuticus
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guess miami for 2 years?
bucknuticus
Member
How convient....
BREAKING: Georgia RB Todd Gurley will be eligible to play again on Nov. 15 against Auburn.
BREAKING: Georgia RB Todd Gurley will be eligible to play again on Nov. 15 against Auburn.
theprodigy
Member
huh?
anyway even aside fom that, you do realize not only is the Pac 12 considered the 2nd best conference easily (after the SEC), but that ESPN also loves Oregon, right?
also Pimpwerx making bad posts is not exclusive to NBA discussions, I see
NEOPARADIGM
Banned
Possible whiteout on Saturday in protest of Dave Brandon.
...and those two years were a decade apart.
Georgia did initiate the punishment for Gurley's actions prior to notifying the NCAA.
But it is good timing. And CBS will be very happy.
Ah ha! Georgia thinks they can get by Florida without Gurley, but in reality they'll be su... yeah ok that sounds about right.
BertramCooper
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Possible whiteout on Saturday in protest of Dave Brandon.
Will be awesome if they pull it off.
Godspeed, Wolverines. Fuck that douchebag.
Dsyndrome
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Possible whiteout on Saturday in protest of Dave Brandon.
I hate Michigan, but they deserve better than this douchebag.
NEOPARADIGM
Banned
I get free rumors opposed to $9.95 rumors, but everywhere is saying both Brandon and Hoke are gone next month.
Do they?
perfectchaos007
Member
It really isn't
devildog820
Member
About right? Or laughably right?
Dsyndrome
Member
He reminds me of E. Gordon Gee with just saying stupid shit and not shutting up. Michigan this year is an utter failure regardless, though.
theprodigy
Member
...so which one is, Big 12? Definitely isn't Big 10 or ACC, that's for sure
About right to me. Means you'll see Douglas (aka white Adrian Peterson) backing up Chubb.
http://youtu.be/jwVSWbM8ueQ
BertramCooper
Banned
Yeah, they genuinely do.
Michigan being this shitty for this long is bad for the B1G and bad for the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry. They've been down long enough. Time for them to finally get their shit together and run these idiots out of AA.