HalfBakedProphet
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to be fair, we have 5 MNC since 1970, you have 1.
Yes, I agree the Nebraska fan base has unreasonable expectations
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CFB Week 14: Brought to you by the letter I: Incidental and Insignificant
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FelixOrion
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The constant blowouts on the national stage are something else though. We're constantly a 9 win team but nothing more than that because we beat up cream puffs and then don't know how to adjust to real teams. I don't necessarily want to immediately be in the national championship hunt or think that we can in the immediate future, but the current state of affairs is that we're a bit of joke team with an abrasive head coach who consistently gets out coached and embarrassed with everyone watching.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Calling nebraska a team with no potential to be great is stupid. Any team can be better than they are, especially the perennially undetperforming Huskers. They are in the weaker half of the second worst Power 5 conference. With their schedule this year and last, they should have lost 2 games at most.
They pay enough to get a top 20 coach and top 20 coordinators, but consistently performs worse than the top 20.
I hope they go with someone young and fresh. Scott Frost would be cool, as he is Nebraska-bred and has had a lot of success as a coordinator in the PAC12. If he could pair it with a competent DC, Nebraska could get back to a perennial top 15 ranking.
To say that Nebraska's ship has sailed is stupid, I think our best years (outside of the 90's, which no team will emulate ever again) are in front of us.
They pay enough to get a top 20 coach and top 20 coordinators, but consistently performs worse than the top 20.
I hope they go with someone young and fresh. Scott Frost would be cool, as he is Nebraska-bred and has had a lot of success as a coordinator in the PAC12. If he could pair it with a competent DC, Nebraska could get back to a perennial top 15 ranking.
To say that Nebraska's ship has sailed is stupid, I think our best years (outside of the 90's, which no team will emulate ever again) are in front of us.
They can't recruit down south like they used to, losing the Oklahoma game hurt them alot.
GravityMan
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Pelini was a public relations nightmare. Nebraska made the right decision to can his ass. They should've axed him a year or two ago.
BertramCooper
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Yep! Sorry everyone in cold weather areas, but the days of people from warmer weather going to cold spots is mostly gone.
Also population wise Nebraska is roughly the 37th most populous state according to rough wiki numbers.
Frustrated_Grunt
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The tunnel walk of shame will never be the same.
BertramCooper
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Randolph Freelander
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To you, maybe. But every time he opens his mouth in defense of his program and players, he lands another top 300 recruit.
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Big Papa Husker
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So damn giddy! Christmas came early this year! =D
Best picture of yesterday
Unless they hire a top-tier coach that's not going to happen. The B1G may lack an elite team but there's quite a few good ones and even the bottom feeders are a threat to pull the upset if the big dawgs have a bad week.
Saban to Nebraska.
Wow, you guys must have well over 100 players committed for this season.
Still out of town and away from my computer for the holiday but I decided to check sports news to see if the A&M job has been filled yet. Instead I see Pelini is finally out. God I hope this hire isn't awful.
The composition of the recruiting classes hasn't really changed significantly since the 90s. Neither had our recruiting rankings. We won't get back to that level again but it won't be because we suddenly can't recruit the south.
Supposedly Frost burned a lot of bridges in the 90s but no one talks about what exactly he did publicly so that might be a controversial pick with some.
The composition of the recruiting classes hasn't really changed significantly since the 90s. Neither had our recruiting rankings. We won't get back to that level again but it won't be because we suddenly can't recruit the south.
Supposedly Frost burned a lot of bridges in the 90s but no one talks about what exactly he did publicly so that might be a controversial pick with some.
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Your a smaller US State population wise in the middle of the country with no real upside college wise for recruits in cold weather. There is absolutely zero reason kids from Texas, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, California ect... to chose to go to Nebraska over schools in or around their home state/conference(s).
Schools in these areas have a tough enough time recruiting against each other let alone schools from out of the way areas like Iowa, Nebraska, Indiana ect... trying to get kids from the hot bed recruiting areas.
Granted that doesn't mean you can't have some good years and a star player can't be born anywhere, but in general that ship has sailed.
theprodigy
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so what happens in the unlikely scenario that Arizona, Missouri, and Wisconsin all win? (lol)
Nebraska can be good again but their AD has to understand to college sports are a coaches' sport. The coach is what matters. What Nebraska has to realize is that:
1. Being a name school gets people's attention but you still have to pay big money to get a good coach to leave a good situation.
2. Kids aren't going to line up to play for Nebraska like in the past (unless they live there) Any coach has to be a great recruiter with a solid recruiting plan.
Edit: Having said that firing a coach after winning 9 games a year is probably not going to attract many good coaches.
1. Being a name school gets people's attention but you still have to pay big money to get a good coach to leave a good situation.
2. Kids aren't going to line up to play for Nebraska like in the past (unless they live there) Any coach has to be a great recruiter with a solid recruiting plan.
Edit: Having said that firing a coach after winning 9 games a year is probably not going to attract many good coaches.
Randolph Freelander
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FelixOrion
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Randolph Freelander
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Is he right or is he right.
Needle Nose Ned, Ned the Head. I dated your sister Mary Pat a couple times until you told me not to anymore.
Randolph Freelander
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Bing!
CheDominik
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Pelini being fired certainly is a surprise, wondering where he will end up. Doesn't seem like a good fit with Florida or Michigan and certainly not the NFL(maybe as a coordinator?).
Well, I think there is a petition to rename ourselves Schiano university.
Battlezone
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BertramCooper
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Nebraska is going to turn to utter shit, meaning the B1G takes yet another step backwards.
Thanks a bunch, Huskers.
Thanks a bunch, Huskers.
CrocMother
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I think the committee should tell the Big 12 that either they play a conference championship game to determine whether TCU or Baykor gets in or neither get in
Mac the KNife
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I hadn't heard that Snyder was fired, but I can't say it's surprising. We had an odd deal of two straight years of way too many freshman starting, but improvement was sorely lacking throughout the season. Manziel isn't walking back through that door, so the only way to get over the 7/8 win hump is to build up the defense.
We have the money, facilities and tradition. If we are already getting good enough recruits to pump out 7 straight 9 win seasons we can get a coach that will win big games. Frankly the talk of the times have changed is ridiculous.
CheDominik
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Baylor, TCU, FSU and Bama. Missouri has no shot to jump Bama unless they absolutely crush them, that Indiana loss is just too bad.
I think they believe they're being "cute" with regards to the playoffs by not designating one team their champion over the other, despite the fact that one team beat the other on the field.
The Big12 will have two "champions." How can you keep out a conference champion? Keep this in mind if we go to 8 teams with automatic ins for P5 conference champs.
GoldenEye 007
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It allows the committee to have more than one option in their selection. They can pick from two conference champs instead of one!
Similar to what the AAC has done for an access bowl selection (if Boise loses next week) until we get a CCG next year.
Cornballer
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Brutal end to the season with Cal losing 42-35 to BYU. The defense just wasn't there to get the stops that Cal needed, and Cal also managed to not score on four downs inside the BYU's 15 yard line right at the end of the game. It's too bad that they won't get a bowl game mostly because they could have used another month of practice for the players.
It was a strange season overall since the five wins mostly exceeded my expectations, but there was such incompetence from the defense and the coaching staff that I feel they could have pulled out a few additional wins without too much trouble. Looks like next season will be another year with this coaching staff, and fortunately most of the key players are returning. Here's hoping for another step forward.
It was a strange season overall since the five wins mostly exceeded my expectations, but there was such incompetence from the defense and the coaching staff that I feel they could have pulled out a few additional wins without too much trouble. Looks like next season will be another year with this coaching staff, and fortunately most of the key players are returning. Here's hoping for another step forward.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Co-signed. Everyone here saying otherwise has no clue what they are talking about. Nebraska has always been about development, walk-ons and juco transfers, never about 5-star recruits and so on. Even during the vaunted 90s,this was largely the case. The coaches, not the temperature make all the difference.
GoldenEye 007
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So basically what you're saying is that it's a horrible season to be a Cal bear?
B12 asked for a waiver. NCAA wouldn't give it to them.
BertramCooper
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What's the justification for this particular dumb NCAA rule?
Why shouldn't a 10-team conference be allowed to have a championship game?
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Why would they have one with a round robin schedule? They have the best system, they are just choosing to muck it up by not giving the head to head winner the nod.
Round robin. Need twelve teams for divs.
I've usually gone north from the stadium, either to 88 (by the river) or smaller roads, then back onto 215 before the Y to 216. Never gone towards Skyland or McFarland to the south.
Firing Pelini is like firing Richt. There's a want to, but afterwards, you realize, oh shit, he's won a lot of games. I'd have waited till the coach took a bad downward slide like Fulmer.
GoldenEye 007
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Idk. NCAA is ultimately made up of the schools themselves.
At this point, why would ACC, Big 10, Pac 12, and SEC teams go with allowing the Big XII to have a game with only 10 teams? They all have to field 12 or more teams, and it seems like a monetary advantage having to only split the money pie 10 times versus 12. I would think regardless they would all want to force the Big XII to have to play 13 games like everyone else.
Like others have said, Big XII is perfectly capable of naming a sole champ out of the round robin format, they're just choosing not to because reasons.
I'm sure Nebraskans are looking at Wisconsin, which is in the same division, has all the same location-based disadvantages without the "storied program" advantage, recruits worse than Nebraska, yet still has 3 (possibly 4) conference championships in the last 5 years and hasn't had a blowout loss in as much time.
Or they could look at Oregon, which has recruited on-par with Nebraska over Pelini's tenure, but has been a national title contender for many of those years.
Stanford and OK State are a couple other examples of teams outplaying their recruiting over a shorter time period.
Those are teams that used to be terrible, and were built up by coaches with a very specific vision for the program's identity.
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