BertramCooper
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Even with a round robin, I don't understand why a conference shouldn't be able to have divisions and a championship game if they want them.
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Even with a round robin, I don't understand why a conference shouldn't be able to have divisions and a championship game if they want them.
Except pelini is top 5 if not biggest asshole in college sports. Can't be a douche to everyone and burn bridges without producing. I'm not talking about national championships either. I'm talking winning divisions, conferences and beating top 25 teams.
Vanillalite
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Oregon has something every other school in the Nation doesn't and that's Nike. It's idiotic to bring up Oregon and not mention the Nike influence.
Also comparing Stanford to Nebraska is night and day.
Wisconsin is a good analogy except that they have over 5 million people in the state where as Nebraska doesn't even have 2.
LostInNoise
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This sums it up. Fuck, I'd be ok if we won 6 games or whatever for a few of the past 7 years as long as we were competitive in games and actually beat worthwhile opponents, but it's the constant blowouts in big games that the fanbase has disdain for. Look at the Iowa game this past Friday as a perfect example of Pelinis tenure here. We had 4 defensive turnovers, should've had a massive lead going into halftime and yet we got lucky to escape with a win in overtime. The team is mentally weak and plays extremely sloppy and constantly out of position. It's also seemingly always out of sorts and the scheme doesn't work with the players.. It's been that way since Pelini came in and it hadn't improved (bar maybe one season) over the past 7 years. That is a pure coaching issue and it was time for a change. Settling for mediocrity is ridiculous and I'm glad the Eichorst had the balls to make the decision this year, even if it was a year later than it should have been.
Vanillalite
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Look don't misunderstand me in that I tnjbk Nebraska can be better coached.
The idea that Nebraska should be a top 10 program competing for the Big 10 and National title just doesn't make sense with the current makeup of college football.
To be quite honest I see zero reason Ohio State shouldn't be a B10 title winner lock for the rest of this decade.
The idea that Nebraska should be a top 10 program competing for the Big 10 and National title just doesn't make sense with the current makeup of college football.
To be quite honest I see zero reason Ohio State shouldn't be a B10 title winner lock for the rest of this decade.
perfectchaos007
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So Pelini has been fired, but Brady Hoke still hanging by a thread?
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Yeah... About that...
How do you hold onto a coach leading your team into Oblivion? He has gotten worse every single year since he got there...
God we must have missed how Nike makes players better.
Not even for sure what you are trying to say with Stanford.
Your state population argument is flawed and irrelevant. Nebraska has always gotten plenty of recruits from surrounding states. Our population isn't going to become some magically barrier.
Based off what? We have already been a contender in the big 10. You have been making bold statements without anything to back it up. People said the same thing about Nebraska back in the early 90s that we would never again be able to complete with the Florida teams etc.
NEOPARADIGM
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He just hasn't been fired yet. There's no chance he returns. None of the coaches UM is looking at are available yet anyway. Sometime next week, as early as Monday, I'd bet.
HalfBakedProphet
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I have no pulse on the ND situation or how hot Kellys seat is, but I imagine them and Michigan are feeling the pressure. Florida is already out of the gate and you don't want to be the last one looking for a date to prom.
Frustrated_Grunt
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Well, Chad Morris is officially going to coach at SMU. It'll be interesting to see who's going to take his job. If Venables leaves, that'll be much worse.
Vanillalite
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Surround states of Kansas, Iowa, South Dakota ect... Aka the hot bed of elite football talent.
Also if you don't get how Phil Knight has dramatically changed Oregon's program I'm not even sure we can have this discussion.
HalfBakedProphet
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it was a terrible idea 7 years ago and it's a terrible idea now
Randolph Freelander
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Nebraska should call UT Austin about reestablishing a series. It would get them into fertile territory while also adding an easy win.
GoldenEye 007
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Appears University of Alabama Board of Trustees will get their wish.
UAB is about done. Even the coach has come to terms with it now. Not sure how this will affect other sports either. CUSA could kick them out because they are no longer sponsoring football.
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=11959176
They did get bowl eligible too.
UAB is about done. Even the coach has come to terms with it now. Not sure how this will affect other sports either. CUSA could kick them out because they are no longer sponsoring football.
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=11959176
They did get bowl eligible too.
After sort of evaluating this clusterfuck all year I think what needs to be done (besides going to the obvious 8 team playoff) is to just select the winners of the strongest conferences regardless of who that is. In this scenario for this year this means the winners of the pac12 and sec and then whoever they think is the next strongest conference (probably ACC and b12).
Makes is so much easier than worrying about how lost to who and when and by how much and how many quality opponents they have and blahblahblah.
So the contestants would be:
Oregon or Arizona
Alabama or Missou
Baylor or TCU (yes, they have to use a tie-breaker)
FSU or GTech
Yes, the b12 gets screwed.
Makes is so much easier than worrying about how lost to who and when and by how much and how many quality opponents they have and blahblahblah.
So the contestants would be:
Oregon or Arizona
Alabama or Missou
Baylor or TCU (yes, they have to use a tie-breaker)
FSU or GTech
Yes, the b12 gets screwed.
Affeinvasion
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I think Kelly's seat is much, much cooler than people think. I think Kelly and the AD had reasonable expectations for this year especially after we had 5 starters or major contributors suspended before the season started. We should have had 8 wins by most projections and would have if we didn't shit the bed against Northwestern.
Most of our defense yesterday was people who weren't even close to the 2 deep when the season began.
There is obviously a noisy contingent of fans who want him gone, but they are the same people who didn't want him in the first place because they thought we could get Meyer or Saban.
devildog820
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Except since Fulmer was sliding, but he's still been more successful than what followed.
Pelini won the games he was supposed to but never upsets or able to raise the program every few seasons.
You seemed to have completely missed what the original argument was so yes it's going to be tough to have a discussion.
Affeinvasion
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I think it's probably a 85% chance that we will all laugh out loud at the person they replace Pelini with. Is Ron Zook still around?
My dad was getting excited about Scott frost and turner gill...... I nearly had a heart attack at the thought of turner gill. He would be a horrible head coach.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
I bet it goes 50/50 at worst. I highly doubt we replace Pelini with anyone with a poor track record. Why would we?
GoldenEye 007
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Additional reports via Twatter that UAB will fire the AD and make an announcement later this week the football program is being shut down.
FelixOrion
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Front runner is easily our beloved [citation needed] soon to be ex-governor Dave Heineman. I mean he clearly thought he was actually experienced to be UNL's president.
Gill would be a nightmare.
Gill would be a nightmare.
Affeinvasion
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If I'm a moderately successful coach I probably don't want to take a job where you get fired for getting 9 wins pretty much every season. I entirely expect Nebraska will hire an "up coming" coordinator over a head coach with MAC experience.
perfectchaos007
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Mack Brown <3's Nebraska.
Honestly I don't think the 9 wins is going to cause a problem. There were other problems and anyway who takes a remotely close look would see that.
Nick Saban decided to finish up all his revenge plans in the same weekend.
GoldenEye 007
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Hell of a revenge plot. UAB will also likely be kicked out for CUSA for all sports as a result.
GoldenEye 007
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1. I'd imagine so.
Purple Cheeto
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Every team in the Midwest is a few recruiting cycles away from being Notre Dame/Michigan/Nebraska and grasping at past glory.
GoldenEye 007
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I know there have been rumblings. But it is pretty real now. With a more set timeframe of within the week. And even with them becoming bowl eligible this year.
1st FBS program to shut down since 1995.
1st FBS program to shut down since 1995.
Purple Cheeto
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Isn't Hawaii considering the same thing?
GoldenEye 007
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I've heard this too. I mean at least it would be their own decision. Has to suck being literally on an island.
Maybe they should bring back June Jones. He seems to like it down in Hawaii.
Purple Cheeto
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I don't think its a coaching issue, it is a financial issue. It just keeps getting more and more expensive for them to run that program and the administration doesn't want to pay it anymore.
Trust me. It was real when I posted that. Almost directly from the horse's mouth.
BertramCooper
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Let's face it: Most of the non-P5 schools would probably be better off without football programs.
And quite a few of the P5 schools, actually.
And quite a few of the P5 schools, actually.
Outcoached. Conservative play calling on offense and terrible game planning.How did you lose to Illinois? It seems like NW played to the level of their competition this year. Played well against good teams, lost to teams they should have beaten. And I bet the players go Jack in the Box chicken sandwiches after the game
Too many injuries. Starting QB out. Defense depleted.
Program needs some new coaches.
Michigan can fire their staff.
Nebraska can, too.
Northwestern, nope. That game basically summarized the season. Head coach says everything is fine.
CrimsonCommie
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Damn USA finally gets a real team and now UAB is getting rid of theirs
BertramCooper
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Deadspin: Nebraska Players Are Pissed At AD Shawn Eichorst For Firing Bo Pelini
Not that there's anything unusual about this.
Not that there's anything unusual about this.
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