Yeah I'll keep her for the magic find. Not as high as Nimpha's, but at least better than Isaiah's and Cleora's. Cleora's 1-mana screenwide knockback is pretty good for ranged teams though, even if it's incredibly weak (speaking as someone who has neither Aludra nor Cherry).
I have Cleora and Aludra. Love Cleo's knockback for helping to gather enemies for other characters with easier mana numbers to kill. And single mana skills are so much easier to use for chaining up others. Cleo might be insanely weak damage in high difficulty missions, but I love using her in hunt & farming missions.
Next festival is insane... The two best healers and Musica (plus they all got a chain story)... I hope 20 tickets and 800 prysma will get me at least one of these. Who I'm kidding, no I won't
Can anyone who knows his stuff give a good breakdown of this festival for Version 2 viability?
I mean, between this Festival and the upcoming Demon Raid festival (which probably comes before Oceans Dawn at least) there are so many temptations lol.
Healers aren't that important for Version 2 right? Especially with Treelancia who I've heard is better than these, not sure though.
Why was that Hatifas Demon Hunter so good again? Can we still get her after the raid has ended?
Can anyone who knows his stuff give a good breakdown of this festival for Version 2 viability?
I mean, between this Festival and the upcoming Demon Raid festival (which probably comes before Oceans Dawn at least) there are so many temptations lol.
Healers aren't that important for Version 2 right? Especially with Treelancia who I've heard is better than these, not sure though.
Why was that Hatifas Demon Hunter so good again? Can we still get her after the raid has ended?
Three out of the four URs in this festival are amazing. Still very useful in JPCC especially when you consider 5 stars healers are still very rare.
Aoi and Lilith are great healers and healing is still very helpful in V2. Especially when you consider Aoi in Global has debuff healing over time, which can probably turn most of the unlimited debuff works in V2 moot. With Lilith, you can easily just outheal the damage.
Treelancia is great for demon raids but her healing is a lot weaker than these two. You really won't depend on her for actual healing.
Musica is also great for raids if you can control your mana pull.
Filiana is lol
Hati, the upcoming demon raid hunter, is your best melee mage until the actual melee mage demon comes out. And you know the usual, either pull or make friends to get anywhere in the demon raid.
Can anyone who knows his stuff give a good breakdown of this festival for Version 2 viability?
I mean, between this Festival and the upcoming Demon Raid festival (which probably comes before Oceans Dawn at least) there are so many temptations lol.
Healers aren't that important for Version 2 right? Especially with Treelancia who I've heard is better than these, not sure though.
Why was that Hatifas Demon Hunter so good again? Can we still get her after the raid has ended?
Healers are important in V2 later missions and Lilith is one of the best healers even in V2. Treelancia is only useful in Demon Raids or on easy missions that you want to complete faster, elsewhere you are better having Lilith.
Three out of the four URs in this festival are amazing. Still very useful in JPCC especially when you consider 5 stars healers are still very rare.
Aoi and Lilith are great healers and healing is still very helpful in V2. Especially when you consider Aoi in Global has debuff healing over time, which can probably turn most of the unlimited debuff works in V2 moot. With Lilith, you can easily just outheal the damage.
Treelancia is great for demon raids but her healing is a lot weaker than these two. You really won't depend on her for actual healing. Or do I need to work on both my Soldiers + Clerics team and that archer/knight team since they're both needed for certain quests, not counting Casino.
Musica is also great for raids if you can control your mana pull.
Filiana is lol
Hati, the upcoming demon raid hunter, is your best melee mage until the actual melee mage demon comes out. And you know the usual, either pull or make friends to get anywhere in the demon raid.
And how do these guys fit in the whole "Knights/archers" meta that get's mentioned a lot, is there a reason to roll for a melee mage when you just use Morgan and some specific gunners since that is the supposed "best team", what about the clerics?
I'm also assuming that the upcoming demons (while good) also aren't a core party member.
Just wondering, what's wrong with Filiana that makes everyone all "lol" about her? AoE attack plus boost to mages seems to make her a good choice in mono-mage parties. Certainly she isn't Lilith/Aoi/Musica tier, but I'd be happy to LB her a few times.
And how do these guys fit in the whole "Knights/archers" meta that get's mentioned a lot, is there a reason to roll for a melee mage when you just use Morgan and some specific gunners since that is the supposed "best team", what about the clerics?
I'm also assuming that the upcoming demons (while good) also aren't a core party member.
the upcoming meta is knights/archer with morgan at is core
knights/mages start becoming a thing once miona gets released at deed v2's tower event
there's also the rise of an upcoming warrior/mage meta since like last night lol
the thing with jpcc/v2 at this point is less getting the ultimate unit and stomping everything but getting some of everything and finding a good synergy with them
due to this, just pick something you want to focus on and go for that
healers still splash well as units that aren't clerics but can heal efficiently are still pretty rare and uncommon
Next festival is insane... The two best healers and Musica (plus they all got a chain story)... I hope 20 tickets and 800 prysma will get me at least one of these. Who I'm kidding, no I won't
Can anyone who knows his stuff give a good breakdown of this festival for Version 2 viability?
I mean, between this Festival and the upcoming Demon Raid festival (which probably comes before Oceans Dawn at least) there are so many temptations lol.
Healers aren't that important for Version 2 right? Especially with Treelancia who I've heard is better than these, not sure though.
Why was that Hatifas Demon Hunter so good again? Can we still get her after the raid has ended?
Treelancia is definitely very very useful, in all kinds of different situation
I just love that 30% atk buff on a 1 mana activation (while giving your team a small heal at the same time)
Both her passive are nice too, speed buff & atk buff at the start of every wave. Clear the enemies faster, and your team require less amount of healing.
I would probably rate the 3 healers (Treelancia > Lillith >> Aoi) personally
Picked up my first UR from the VIP recruit, Isabel. Decided to take the opportunity to move away from my Trystan-based gauntlet team to an even more faceroll Liam team. Liam-Bilgitto-Elemia-Isabel. 4 mana guaranteed every fight, press Liam's special twice and win.
Pretty easy team for anyone to put together actually. Liam from tickets. Bilgitto and Nelva are easy to get 3*s, and Elemia is the 2000 mages played mission reward.
Grats on the UR; I picked up Rino from the VIP earlier this week after taking the big plunge with the Captain's pack....and I added Bokuden this morning from a 10-honor pull. Of course, this means my chances of getting Musica from next week's Chain Story Festival just went down significantly. (Hoping they don't dillute the UR pool too badly...since the only UR from the current list that I have is Filiana).
Might have to hold on to copies of Bilgitto and Nelva to try that Gauntlet team. My current squad (Selene LB3, Coro LB3, Arietta LB0, Filiana LB0, sub-Kai MLB, Juliana LB0) is hovering around that balance of "easy enough to win with minimal resetting" and "could start running into problems as v2 characters start showing up.
I only need one more chain story to get Phoena to LB2, but I already have Lilith and Musica. I'm conflicted on whether I should use any tickets next week.
I only need one more chain story to get Phoena to LB2, but I already have Lilith and Musica. I'm conflicted on whether I should use any tickets next week.
Can anyone who knows his stuff give a good breakdown of this festival for Version 2 viability?
I mean, between this Festival and the upcoming Demon Raid festival (which probably comes before Oceans Dawn at least) there are so many temptations lol.
Healers aren't that important for Version 2 right? Especially with Treelancia who I've heard is better than these, not sure though.
Why was that Hatifas Demon Hunter so good again? Can we still get her after the raid has ended?
Healing is still vital in v2, specially if you don't have a great (minoa or morgan-based) knight's team and a nice soldiers/mages team (and even then). v2's continents are mostly "themed", this means you will have an easier time using knights in the 4th continent (high attack gunners) and warriors or mages in the 3rd (mostly soldier-like beasts and debuffing bats).
I got my ass kicked ~twice thanks to Arietta during some of the 4th continent's story quests.
But leaving the fact that healing is still more than simply relevant, regarding the healers themselves:
Out of the three best healers currently available in jpCC (Lillith, Treelancia and Toa), I have both Treelancia and Lillith and I only ever use Treelancia in raids/time attack quests. Lillith is just so much better as a healer it isn't even fair - wave %heal banzai.
Regarding Toa, she can be pulled from the fifth tavern - loliland. She is better than Lillith, as she has a 1-mana HoT that removes slow/poison/blind (+seal if there are knights/warriors on the field), high wave %heal and high stats. To keep it short: Power creep at its finest.
TL;DR: Raids? Treelancia. Anything else? Lillith/Toa.
Consider Treelancia a better Roxana (thanks to her wave buff and not being a dancer).
So if you don't have Lillith yet and you don't want to pull for her, simply wait for Toa (though she is a ways off) and use Marina v2 meanwhile.
Regarding the rest of the poll:
Aoi is basically useless if they nerfed her skill nack to jpCC status, but her CS' reward is one of the better A-rank rods.
Filina isn't bad, but she is like a bad omen. I mean, come on, you just pulled the only "free" UR in the poll.
Musica - no need to adress her.
The general rule of the thumb is pulling if Musica and Lillith appear together on any given fest, but in this case Hati is just too much to pass on. Not only is Hatiphas a very good demon, but Hati has a 60% atk buff when blinded/sealed, on top of her +35% melee buff.
I know some people might think something along the lines of not needing a runefencer, and while it is true, mono-mage teams have quite a lot of uses (subjugation events, casino and of course, mage-only quests).
The general rule of the thumb is pulling if Musica and Lillith appear together on any given fest, but in this case Hati is just too much to pass on. Not only is Hatiphas a very good demon, but Hati has a 60% atk buff when blinded/sealed, on top of her +35% melee buff.
I know some people might think something along the lines of not needing a runefencer, and while it is true, mono-mage teams have quite a lot of uses (subjugation events, casino and of course, mage-only quests).
So is Hati so good that I should use all my prysma on her instead of the Oceans Dawn tavern?
By the way, I've seen Brewery appear in some festivals once in a while, does this also mean that there is a chance that Hati will actually be available later on?
So is Hati so good that I should use all my prysma on her instead of the Oceans Dawn tavern?
By the way, I've seen Brewery appear in some festivals once in a while, does this also mean that there is a chance that Hati will actually be available later on?
Oh damn, I forgot to address that. Brewery is currently available as a tavern unit in jpCC, why she isn't on gCC is beyond my knowledge, but we can consider Brewery as a normal Tavern unit by Sega's standards, which is why she reappeared.
As far as I know Hati hasn't reappeared in jpCC yet, and since she isn't a fan-favourite like Yoshitsugu, I wouldn't count on Gumi adding her just because.
Edit: I keep forgetting. Probably not so good you'd miss OD, but only because taverns have 10+1 pulls in gCC and Morgan can have more teams built around her.
Go for Hati (just one copy?) because the utility of a (really good) spellfencer is worth it, especially since she has a limited availibilty while I can always try to obtain Lilith and the Oceans Dawn tavern gang.
I don't have any other mages to support Hati though (aside from Demons)
I wouldn't worry about your current team (unless there's a sudden mage-only quest) since you will want to get at the very least a copy of Shauna/sensei and to MLB Alphim. Alphim is the other runefencer worth getting that dakkumauji mentioned before (and a demon), while Shauna is that raid's event character and a mage-buffer with passive healing (100hp every 2-3seconds to mace and spear users) and an AoE skill.
So those two along with Hati and Liam/Hatiphas make for a nice and capable mage team. Shauna's fes also featured Cheery, so it's a win-win situation.
But then again, this is just my opinion. I missed Hatiphas' raid, but my mage team is still among my stronger ones, so I wouldn't fret if you suddenly don't feel like getting Hati.
Just wondering, what's wrong with Filiana that makes everyone all "lol" about her? AoE attack plus boost to mages seems to make her a good choice in mono-mage parties. Certainly she isn't Lilith/Aoi/Musica tier, but I'd be happy to LB her a few times.
That's because you get a free Filiana if you use enough mages, and she has a close quarters skill with no melee buff. On top of that, she is a victim of v1's iconic "the ability holder takes no benefit"-buffs.
I wouldn't worry about your current team (unless there's a sudden mage-only quest) since you will want to get at the very least a copy of Shauna/sensei and to MLB Alphim. Alphim is the other runefencer worth getting that dakkumauji mentioned before (and a demon), while Shauna is that raid's event character and a mage-buffer with passive healing (100hp every 2-3seconds to mace and spear users) and an AoE skill.
So those two along with Hati and Liam/Hatiphas make for a nice and capable mage team. Shauna's fes also featured Cheery, so it's a win-win situation.
But then again, this is just my opinion. I missed Hatiphas' raid, but my mage team is still among my stronger ones, so I wouldn't fret if you suddenly don't feel like getting Hati.
Out of curiosity, how does Efimela (upcoming ring recruit runefencer) stack up? With abilities factored in, Hati's attackat LB0 seems to top MLB Efi...but Efi gets a soldier-style attack boost, and looks slightly tankier with life-leeching attack.
(I'm certainly going to draw for Hati, but it's a question of how many resources I should reserve for her vs. trying to go for Musica.)
Out of curiosity, how does Efimela (upcoming ring recruit runefencer) stack up? With abilities factored in, Hati's attackat LB0 seems to top MLB Efi...but Efi gets a soldier-style attack boost, and looks slightly tankier with life-leeching attack.
(I'm certainly going to draw for Hati, but it's a question of how many resources I should reserve for her vs. trying to go for Musica.)
I don't use said database much (here's a quick and dirty guide, in case someone wants to give it a spin), so I could be wrong. Then again, I believe the settings I used don't account for Hati's +60% atk buff when poisoned.
In general, LB0 Hati seems more apt for debuff heavy and crowded stages while Efimera seems like a general purpose Runefencer. IF (and this is a big if) you can MLB Efimera you could probably do without Hati, although at that point skipping the two altogether might be the better option - the amount of rings needed to MLB Efimera aren't worth it, imo.
Also, with mages you usually want a cheap knockback (Cleora), or a high-damage skill, wether it is AoE or single target, and Efimera seems to target a middle ground that might not accomplish either.
I personally like Efimera's design, but I'm not sold on her as a v2 character.
I got two Rino this week from the VIP recruit, I wonder if there is a pickup like system where it is more likely. The buff is worse than Roxanna but since buffs effects are exponential you want as many of them as possible in Demon Raids.
I think the two raids before we'll get before v2.1 are sword and wand. In theory it could be safe to equip anything but these. But I guess you're right, I should just wait for v2.1 and weapon switching
I think the two raids before we'll get before v2.1 are sword and wand. In theory it could be safe to equip anything but these. But I guess you're right, I should just wait for v2.1 and weapon switching
According to the Demon Calender on Gamerch Hatifas should come next with Hati being the event character (confusing isn't it). If Gumi follows the calender of course.
We haven't seen the last one though and it seems like she'll come as an exclusive Halloween character, she could be in some special event that comes before Hatifas.
It's odd though, especially if you look at Gumi's habit of announcing a Demon Raid Festival one week before the Demon Raid, following that logic we should have heard something concerning next week (19 - 26 oct) because Halloween takes place the week after that.
At the very least, another Spellfencer should be nice, especially if she's easily obtainable. That way I can justify skipping Hati.
I'd say if Carmille's event is a raid, her being the demon, it would make sense for Hatiphas' raid to be delayed to November. However, wasn't Sherry supposed to release this Halloween, or did I mistake that?
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Also, regarding jpCC, is it known wether Freesia will be added to a tavern or not? She isn't affiliated with travelers, rather, she seems to be affiliated with maze pass, but can't confirm (Aida is the only arcana that shows kizuna affiliation boost).
I just got a copy, but don't want to try to MLB her just know, with either a raid or a halloween event coming up this month D:
Also, regarding jpCC, is it known wether Freesia will be added to a tavern or not? She isn't affiliated with travelers, rather, she seems to be affiliated with maze pass, but can't confirm (Aida is the only arcana that shows kizuna affiliation boost).
I just got a copy, but don't want to try to MLB her just know, with either a raid or a halloween event coming up this month D:
Yep. Cost me 4 Colo battles last night. Really annoying. Might have to do with rank changes on opponents? I found when I refreshed, I could get into battles without the bug.
Millagen gives a defense buff while in subparty I think.
The thing is that it seems I've been amasing copies of 3* characters I already own (like 3 Audettes, and I haven't even done the quest where you get her for free!) and I dunno if it's worth trying to MLB any of those characters.
I've been using the 3* tier list in the CC forum but I'm a bit lost since I can't find a cohesive and updated tier list I can't find any info about my Midoa and Tortuga though.
And, one last question. I think I'm about to have 20 festivity tickets again. Should I aim to MLB Arietta or should I grab a copy of other character?
I MLB every character I can, It's not that big of a sacrifice especially since now 3* can be obtained easily using AC. You never know when they can be useful, for example I just created a party of soldiers with 1 mana skills to grind chain and hunt missions at the same time.
And, one last question. I think I'm about to have 20 festivity tickets again. Should I aim to MLB Arietta or should I grab a copy of other character?
There are pretty good 3* in v2, so you can MLB those and forget about the current ones. In the japanese section of CCF there are casino and 3* guides, and while I think most of them will come out with the second tavern, they are worth keeping and waiting for (even if you have a full UR team).
However, do try to get at least 1-2 characters with each weapon type, unless you have 1-2 UR/SR for any given type (mostly for raids), so you could MLB those among the v1 rares you have.
I wouldn't bother with arietta and festive tickets if you have any other character you fancy (UR like Liam and Teresa are good options if you need soldiers or mages, Lephret isn't really that good). Marina v2 is quite good and free, and if you have LB0 Arietta you are in no hurry to get another healer until you get Marina. You will eventually need a 5* healer, though, and MLB Arietta isn't that good comparatively (she could make do, but it's 5 copies vs a single copy of a decent 5* healer).
Anyway, for now, you should buy a better team around your Orca/Arietta, since you'll be serbved until book2 with a simple LB0/LB1 Arietta but you'll need better units otherwise. Still, SR are fairly common in v2 thanks to the higher rates, so you shouldn't waste non-RNG UR units unless you have no interest in them.
I've been using the 3* tier list in the CC forum but I'm a bit lost since I can't find a cohesive and updated tier list I can't find any info about my Midoa and Tortuga though.
And, one last question. I think I'm about to have 20 festivity tickets again. Should I aim to MLB Arietta or should I grab a copy of other character?
Gumi added total of 16 UR to chain fest?!?
They did add (after announcement):
Cheery, Kiki, Hajad, Sasha, Parchelle, Karen, Teresa, Sonya, Juliana, Islem, Aludra, Barienna
SR that were added: Fan-Fan, Vorg, Celeya, Hassan, Popra, Lucana, Rebecca, Phillip, Orianna and Nazuna
^^ Most of wont have csq. My alt made 7 pulls and got Oguma 4* (csq) and Kiki (trash 5*).
