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[Dr.Acula]

Link to stream of Trump speech?

https://youtu.be/wfY08cKOuNo

Actual link.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Are they collectively too fucking dumb to see the irony of them harping about white heritage while using torchlights as a visual motif that has ethnic origins? Seriously?

 

[Lowmelody]

You're both arguing in favor of normalizing political violence. This is exactly what civil society is designed to prevent.

This isn't about politics. You cannot fight Nazis with politics because as that implies compromise to any degree which isn't acceptable.

 

[moeman]

Hey, he could only afford the base model.

He couldn't afford an overcompensating truck like his buddies so having to settle for a charger drove him to madness. I feel sorry for the poor guy. Just need to understand where he's coming from.

 

[Slime]

The next time some alt-righter trolls with "So much for the tolerant left," our reply should be "I agree."

Zero tolerance for these terrorist Nazi scum any more.

 

[LiK]

Nazism is not about politics or a point of view. Please stop trying to stay in the middle. There is no middle.

 

[Barzul]

One confirmed death.

https://twitter.com/tom_winter/status/896452115689873409

 

[Oberon]

Again, the bolded part is why we have law enforcement. No disagreement there.

The whole situation become worse considering American Law enforcement has it's own numerous problems

 

[Velocity:Design:Comfort]

Yes, I'm aware the whitewashed version of MLK is vastly different from the real thing. I'm aware that MLK was prone to tear into the fecklessness of white allies, to advocate something different than the color blindism that a few out of context "I Have a Dream" speeches would indicate, and that he was a just as much about economic justice that anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton would disagree with. I'm aware of all of that.

But the one thing the whitewashed version of MLK gets right is nonviolence. By all means, go prove me wrong - show me where the marchers in Selma started firing at the police, or the dogs, or did anything other than create photos of peaceful protesters being hosed by police departments that shocked the nation, ultimately creating inadequate but lasting positive change.

But that's not actually what I want to say.

What I actually want to say is that anyone who sincerely believed the consensus of this thread would already be on the news. But there are tens of thousands of counter-protesters in Charlottesville right now, and not a single one of them has opened fire on alt-right protesters. If you want there to be violence, you're perfectly capable of creating it yourself. Gun laws in America are permissive, and if you can't make it to this one, it will probably not be the last alt-right rally.

But if opening fire on a bunch of protesters seems excessive, or just brutal, then maybe stop stanning for the people who don't have your scruples.

Ok, then we agree somewhat. But what you said was somewhat misleading before. I don't want leftists to look bad either. But I think there is a false equivalence between these far right wingers and the group of people you are talking about - inherently, one's PR goal is to spread hate, fear, and normalize literally murdering or deporting people who are not white. The other's PR goal is to make people, well, act civilized. The right can only advance that PR goal with more hate and fear, and that makes them much more dangerous. There is a point where they must be stopped by any means necessary. Has it came? Probably not. Will it come? We'll see.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

President dipshit speaking now.

Edit: And immediately goes into “blowing myself on national TV” mode.

 

[TheCochese]

He couldn't afford an overcompensating truck like his buddies so having to settle for a charger drove him to madness. I feel sorry for the poor guy. Just need to understand where he's coming from.

This is dumb on so many levels.

 

[Stoop Man]

No, they are arguing in favor of stopping people who want to literally kill all people of a certain group through any means necessary.

...By normalizing political violence, the most effective tool of oppressing minorities and political dissidents. Don't get swept up in your own fear. It will feed on itself.

 

[Mufc1427]

Absolutely horrible.

Fuck that terrorist.

 

[Velocity:Design:Comfort]

Again, the bolded part is why we have law enforcement. No disagreement there.

This is the most naive post in this thread and that is saying a lot.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Say the name of the group.

 

[Hubbl3]

The next time some alt-righter trolls with "So much for the tolerant left," our reply should be "I agree."

Zero tolerance for these terrorist Nazi scum any more.

That's where I'm at. Fuck each and every one of them.

 

[Saganator]

Witness who took one of the videos at the accident straight up called it a terrorist attack on MSNBC

 

[III-V]

Trump live right now if anyone wants to face palm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfY08cKOuNo&feature=youtu.be

 

[The Kree]

...By normalizing political violence, the most effective tool of oppressing minorities and political dissidents. Don't get swept up in your own fear. It will feed on itself.

It's not normalizing political violence. It's self defense.

 

[cloudscale]

"on many sides"

wtf??

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Nazism is not about politics or a point of view. Please stop trying to stay in the middle. There is no middle.

This. I don't even wanna hear a discussion about room for "opposing views." The mere act of even trying to move the conversation to a "tolerance/belief/ point of view" narrative needs to get shut the fuck down stat.

 

[cntr]

Again, the bolded part is why we have law enforcement. No disagreement there.

American police are themselves compromised. Nobody trusts them to protect minorities, and neither would I.

I can't call for full on vigilante counter-attacks, but it's a shit situation all around.

 

[Velocity:Design:Comfort]

...By normalizing political violence, the most effective tool of oppressing minorities and political dissidents. Don't get swept up in your own fear. It will feed on itself.

No. no. No. No. No!

Jesus Christ!

Leftists do not want to purge arbitrary groups of people in the US. It is NOT the same.

 

[theignoramus]

"on many sides"....wow....

 

[Dr.Acula]

"We condemn hatred and bigotry on many sides, on many sides."

Not an exact quote maybe, but he did say "on many sides" twice.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

"Both sides" trump..stupid hoe.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Well he fucked it up fast.

 

[III-V]

Hatred and violence on many sides lol

barak obama lol

no citizen should be afraid lol

the hate and the division must stop right now come together with

 

[Onimusha78]

"On many sides" wtf

 

[PopeReal]

Cops are cool with this. Middle man moderate is cool with this.

But block some traffic to protest unarmed Americans being killed and people lose their minds.

 

[Stoop Man]

No. no. No. No. No!

Jesus Christ!

Leftists do not want to purge arbitrary groups of people in the US. It is NOT the same.

Where did I say that?

 

[JBourne]

Holy shit. He's actually saying this.

 

[mambadragon]

This is gross. On both sides???

 

[SafeinSound]

He's talking about the employment rate. I literally feel sick. I literally feel sick.

 

[Saganator]

Aaand he's already moved on to talk about himself

 

[LiK]

Many sides eh. Already fucked up. Stopped watching.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

The best!

 

[BBboy20]

HE REALLY had to interject right there like it's a casual talk, couldn't he?

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

This is garbage, even for him.

 

[Juicy Bob]

Your president is fucking scum, America.

Shame on him.

 

[MKIL65]

Your president should be arrested for treason and emboldening nazis.

 

[evanmisha]

Your country is fucked. I don't know how else to say it.

 

[Mufc1427]

He is a fucking asshole.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

Even I feel sick and I'm not even American.

 

[the_firewithin]

hahaha no matter color, creed, etc line. obviously bannon or miller didnt write this

 

[psynergylover]

hate on many sides.....

one side just killed and injured dozens and a terroist attacl!

edit: and that was the fucking racsists!!!

 

[Dynasty]

Holy shit.

 

[JBourne]

"Political party."

Nazi party.

 

[sir_kevith]

This is the worst speech I ever heard

 

[Velocity:Design:Comfort]

Where did I say that?

You are defending another poster who said that.