Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Sales split: 55% digital, 45% physical.
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Chris Dring: 'Astro Bot's UK launch is solid. First week sales are 21% higher than the debut of Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart'
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Sales split: 55% digital, 45% physical.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
That’s good. Do we know what Ratchet and Clank sold, so we can make the 21% higher sales mean more?
XXL
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Men_in_Boxes
post if you're OK.
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Cakeboxer
Gold Member
It's hard to compare, Ratchet was released mid 2021 with millions less PS5 sold.
Kacho
Gold Member
Men_in_Boxes
what do you think Dring defines as “solid”?
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
So wouldn’t that kind of make Astro Bots sales not as good as this sounds?
Damn it UK. Sony finally puts out a great first party game and this is how you do them?!
In terms of comparisons to rift apart, it also needs to be put in perspective of team size and years of dev.
The entire studio at insomniac worked on rift apart, they’ve grown a bit in recent years, being at 400 staff in 2021, so let’s chop off another 100 and call it 300, they took 5 years to make it too. VS 60 people and 3 years on Astro, the margins will just be so much higher.
The entire studio at insomniac worked on rift apart, they’ve grown a bit in recent years, being at 400 staff in 2021, so let’s chop off another 100 and call it 300, they took 5 years to make it too. VS 60 people and 3 years on Astro, the margins will just be so much higher.
IntentionalPun
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I’m sure it’ll do really well relative to budget and it also just satisfies a certain niche missing from their catalog. It’s not going to have blockbuster sales though.
SkylineRKR
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I am sure Astro Bot does fine. The previous retail release was Rescue Mission which was locked to VR. I doubt Sony's expectations were through the roof for this one, we've only had some tech demo ish freebies and a niche VR game from this IP. Yet it does seem to beat Rift Apart which was heavily pushed from PS5 launch onward, and was a more well known IP to begin with. It was one of the big games Sony put out in its first year.
This game will likely have legs as well.
This game will likely have legs as well.
Men_in_Boxes
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CherryFalls
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Awesome news
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Physiognomonics
Member
Exactly what I was expecting. Similar or even better sales than Ratchet with digital included. 4 years after Ratchet we knew Digital is much higher, it was only logical and Dring was just click baiting.
The fact that Ratchet is a much more known IP and loved since decades is impressive for Team Asobi. Legs are going to be very good.
The fact that Ratchet is a much more known IP and loved since decades is impressive for Team Asobi. Legs are going to be very good.
Dafegamer
Member
Ratchet and Clank is an established IP with huge fanfare and Sony's best selling 3D Platforming franchise(I'm not counting LBP as that was 2D and more of a creation tool)so it's impressive if Astro Bot sold more first week
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
But what did Ratchet sell?
Cakeboxer
Gold Member
It will sell well, no question. But i think it's useless to compare it to a game that had a hardware base of ~15 million PS5 while Astro has a hardware base of~60 million Ps5.
IntentionalPun
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What were you expecting?
It’s not exactly a crazy popular genre outside of basically 1 or 2 Nintendo franchises.
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Woopah
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That's great news, I would expect pretty good legs as well.
Individual software sales don't scale with userbase like that. Its not how it works.
Dafegamer
Member
We know it sold 4 million plus as of 2023(or was it 2022?)
nial
Member
LittleBigPlanet never sold better than Ratchet & Clank, anyway. Tools of Destruction outsold LBP1 back in the day.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I expect better of UK. Astro Bot is the real fucking deal.
Dafegamer
Member
Yup, Switch got a bigger user base, yet TOTK failed to outsell BOTW
MSduderino
Neo Member
In 2021, there were roughly 20 million PS5s. Now there are 60 million (worldwide). 21% increase (even just in UK) seems paltry considering they should have 2-3 times more PS5s in the UK now.
Woopah
Member
To put another way, the Switch userbase when TOTK came out was more than 50x higher than when BOTW came out.
Yet no one should have expected TOTK's week 1 sales to be 50x that of BOTW.
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GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
how GOTY sell less then space marine 2??
MSduderino
Neo Member
TOTK uses the same map and some of the same move set/features as BOTW. Astro Bot is pretty different than Rift Apart. I understand the analogy though and it does make the 21% seem more like a success.
Dafegamer
Member
Do you have a list? I know that the LBP games were quite popular for Sony. I know that R&C PS4 sold 7million+ units
SlicedBread3
Member
^THIS
Case in point, Rift Apart was one of the best launches in the series history, despite the PS5 shortages.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/ratch...t-ps5-exclusive-to-claim-no-1-uk-boxed-charts
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
TOTK was fastest selling nintendos game ever first month
Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom sells faster than any Nintendo game in history
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom has become the fastest-selling Nintendo game of all time.
www.guinnessworldrecords.com
mckmas8808
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yazenov
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It means that it sold better than a well established popular franchise in the same genre?
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
And that’s fantastic news. I’m just curious what 21% more looks like. Is it like 21% than 100 units sold, or 100,000 units?
Mibu no ookami
Banned
how GOTY sell less then space marine 2??
Warhammer's sales are front loaded by its fandom. Astro Bot will have legs.
Woopah
Member
Right. And if software sales scaled with userbase it would have sold 50 million first month.TOTK was fastest selling nintendos game ever first month
Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom sells faster than any Nintendo game in history
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom has become the fastest-selling Nintendo game of all time.
But that's not how it works.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
The sales split for Astro Bot is 55% digital & 45% physical.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
Something I said IMMEDIATELY and anyone with general analysis skills could tell you.
So him doing this was in fact out of pocket and poor analysis.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
still way to low true game fans must buy this instead of gaas crud my friends it must have long legs hopefully when it wins goty
Bernardougf
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Sooner
Member
Christopher Dring: Astro Bot's UK opening week sales are 1/3rd lower than Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart
It looks like Jason Schreiers "Is this the model going forward?" tweet sounds pretty darn stupid right now. Always thought the parade everyone was trying to give Astrobot before sales numbers was a really bad look. Request: Can a mod change "About 1/3rd of..." to "About 1/3rd less than..."...
And people couldn't understand/believe that it's because digital is a much larger portion of sales now than just a few years ago.
NastyPasty
Neo Member
Or, to put it another way, at the time of it's release Ratchet and Clank had a lot less competition in its space.
Woopah
Member
It's digital ratio is 10% pts higher, so I wouldn't say it's much larger portion than it was for Ratchett.Christopher Dring: Astro Bot's UK opening week sales are 1/3rd lower than Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart
It looks like Jason Schreiers "Is this the model going forward?" tweet sounds pretty darn stupid right now. Always thought the parade everyone was trying to give Astrobot before sales numbers was a really bad look. Request: Can a mod change "About 1/3rd of..." to "About 1/3rd less than..."...www.neogaf.com
And people couldn't understand/believe that it's because digital is a much larger portion of sales now than just a few years ago.
Varteras
Member
Sales-Age - Chris Dring: 'Astro Bot's UK launch is solid. First week sales are 21% higher than the debut of Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart'
Sales split: 55% digital, 45% physical.
Christopher Dring: Astro Bot's UK opening week sales are 1/3rd lower than Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart
And that data isn't counting the Warhammer's official release yet, just the 90-100$ early access edition 👀
Ah, the duality of man.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
For those of you trying to compare Astro sales to R&C vs the install base at the time, I found this article. It excludes 2024 UK PS5 sales, so you can an estimate that to the total.
gameworldobserver.com
UK PS5 sales
2020 Not stated (maybe 300k during the Xmas rush?)
2021 1.2M
2022 0.8M
2023 1.2M
2024 Not stated (maybe 500k so far and then Xmas rush?)
So estimated total..... 300k + 1.2M + 0.8M + 1.2M + 500k = 4M? Does that sound reasonable?
So when R&C launched on PS5 in summer 2021, maybe you had 1M UK systems tops??? Take 300k + a portion of 2021.
If Astro sold only 21% more than R&C and PS5 UK install base is 4x what it was when R&C launched in 2021, that's terrible sales.
UK games market breakdown 2023: £4.7 billion in revenue, PS5 sales up 55%, EA Sports FC 24 and Hogwarts Legacy dominate charts | Game World Observer
UK’s Entertainment Retailers Association (ERA) has shared its annual report on the country’s video game market. Here are the key findings about last year’s best-selling titles and consoles, as well as total consumer spend by segments.
gameworldobserver.com
UK PS5 sales
2020 Not stated (maybe 300k during the Xmas rush?)
2021 1.2M
2022 0.8M
2023 1.2M
2024 Not stated (maybe 500k so far and then Xmas rush?)
So estimated total..... 300k + 1.2M + 0.8M + 1.2M + 500k = 4M? Does that sound reasonable?
So when R&C launched on PS5 in summer 2021, maybe you had 1M UK systems tops??? Take 300k + a portion of 2021.
If Astro sold only 21% more than R&C and PS5 UK install base is 4x what it was when R&C launched in 2021, that's terrible sales.
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