Christopher Nolan is back for Batman 3 and is "mentoring" a Superman reboot
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Danielsan said:
He was awesome in Batman Begins.
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Hahaha Bill Adama as old Bruce Wayne. That'd be pretty boss.
I think the best old Bruce Wayne would probably be Mickey Rourke (minus the hilarious cat-man face he has now). Sort of like in Sin City. He just looks a lot like the Dark Knight Returns bruce.
I think the best old Bruce Wayne would probably be Mickey Rourke (minus the hilarious cat-man face he has now). Sort of like in Sin City. He just looks a lot like the Dark Knight Returns bruce.
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Solo said:
This would be awesome awesome awesome (in every way), but there's no way that anybody but Bale will be Bruce in the next film (unless we had some awesome, Godfather II-esque thing where we start with an aging Bruce and have flashbacks to his younger self).
He was awesome as Bruce Wayne in Batman begins.Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Batman Begins just had a lot less actual Batman, which is good because he's a poor Batman.
I also think Begins is a far better movie than TDK overall.
TDK had better villains, set pieces and performances, but the movie felt bloated and poorly paced. It's like Nolan tried to cram the content of two movies into one and the entire thing suffered for it.
Yes I'm one of the few people on GAF who isn't utterly in love with TDK.
That said, I'm really looking forward to Nolan's Inception.
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I would just love to see a movie, set like 20 years later (as I said), where Alfred is dead (would suck to lose Michael Caine though) and its just Bruce living alone in Wayne Manor, battling his inner demons and his past while starting to lose his grip on reality.
None of this will happen though. Im pretty sure Nolan has said that his movies are meant to explore Batman's early years, even before he truly became the iconic Batman. So Im guessing this will be set 6 months to a year after TDK.
Id love to be proven wrong on that, though.
I don't want a "20 years in the future" movie for Batman 3, because I still want to see how Nolan handles what the hell happened at the end of TDK. The city is fucked up, Batman is fucked up, Batman and Gordon both know that Joker "won". That's why I'm excited about his description of Batman 3 being the end of the story rather than just adding on more and more for the sake of it.
At the end of Batman 3, I want to feel like there could be more stories told in the future, but this trilogy has been closed.
At the end of Batman 3, I want to feel like there could be more stories told in the future, but this trilogy has been closed.
One thing I NEED from Batman 3 is the return of the great James Newton Howard father and son/Thomas Wayne theme (the first 2 mins or so): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI-d_L8EXYc&feature=related
Hell, the movie needs more Newton Howard fullstop. One of the reasons I prefer BB's score to TDK's is that it was a perfect balance, with Newton Howard's subtle and deeply emotional cues evening out Zimmer's bombastic cues like Molossus. TDK's score felt like the Zimmer show.
Hell, the movie needs more Newton Howard fullstop. One of the reasons I prefer BB's score to TDK's is that it was a perfect balance, with Newton Howard's subtle and deeply emotional cues evening out Zimmer's bombastic cues like Molossus. TDK's score felt like the Zimmer show.
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Solo said:
Solo, you are my hero.
DMczaf said:
Agreed. I want to see Batman on the run with the criminals now thinking he kills and the cops no longer on his side.
I do want to see a more Bruce Wayne centered story where he deals with the consequences of the life he has chosen.
Either way I trust Nolan has an awesome story idea in place. Can't wait!
From Nolan's comments, I get the feeling that a sequel was going to be more like Begins. Focused on Batman.
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/17/interview-christopher-nolan/
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/17/interview-christopher-nolan/
I think Batman 3 set 20 years later would establish the symbol of Batman more than anything else and define Batman. Bruce is just a man, a mortal. This approach to the trilogy would have Bruce and the audience learn that the symbol of Batman is bigger, than Wayne himself and that ultimately Bruce is going to have to find a way for it to live on, or let it die with him.
I wouldn't mind if they set Batman 3 (which, as a side note, I still think should just be titled "Batman") a few years after TDK. I;d say maybe six or seven years, but I would love to see a fully up-and-running bat-cave, one of the things I really missed in TDK 
I would actually also like to see a third design of the suit, one that is a good marriage of the classic Batman-esque qualities from the BB suit, combined with the more fabric elements of the TDK version. As for the villain, hell if I know. They've still got their choice of damn near every villain in his rogues gallery. I wouldn't mind a return of Ra's al Ghul, or even if they introduced Talia as well. If they set it around seven or so years ahead of TDK, Bruce will have been well over the loss of Rachel by that point (meaning he's interested in other women
) so I think bringing in Talia would be good way to bring in a new love interest and bring back Ra's as a villain.
There's a lot of stuff they'd have to work around with the Lazarus Pit and all, since magic doesn't exactly feel like it'd work into Nolan's Gotham at all, but i think it'd be great to see Liam Neeson reprise his role to some capacity, since I feel it would bring the trilogy full-circle.
I would actually also like to see a third design of the suit, one that is a good marriage of the classic Batman-esque qualities from the BB suit, combined with the more fabric elements of the TDK version. As for the villain, hell if I know. They've still got their choice of damn near every villain in his rogues gallery. I wouldn't mind a return of Ra's al Ghul, or even if they introduced Talia as well. If they set it around seven or so years ahead of TDK, Bruce will have been well over the loss of Rachel by that point (meaning he's interested in other women
) so I think bringing in Talia would be good way to bring in a new love interest and bring back Ra's as a villain. There's a lot of stuff they'd have to work around with the Lazarus Pit and all, since magic doesn't exactly feel like it'd work into Nolan's Gotham at all, but i think it'd be great to see Liam Neeson reprise his role to some capacity, since I feel it would bring the trilogy full-circle.
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Batman Forever would be a cool name for Batman 3.
(I know it was used already but so was "Batman")
(I know it was used already but so was "Batman")
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Solo said:
Indeed. <3
So could the villain for B3 be Rhas Al Ghul? Not Liam Neeson, obviously, but we know that Rhas is just a persona. Could be an interesting way to bring things full circle. Hell, they could even bring Ken Watanabe back to play him (sure, he looked pretty screwed when the temple was burning, but we know that some of the League of Shadows did survive), or cast someone new.
I dig the idea of the League of Shadows and Rhas appearing again 20 years later.
I dig the idea of the League of Shadows and Rhas appearing again 20 years later.
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Danielsan said:He was awesome as Bruce Wayne in Batman begins.
Batman Begins just had a lot less actual Batman, which is good because he's a poor Batman.
I also think Begins is a far better movie than TDK overall.
TDK had better villains, set pieces and performances, but the movie felt bloated and poorly paced. It's like Nolan tried to cram the content of two movies into one and the entire thing suffered for it.
Yes I'm one of the few people on GAF who isn't utterly in love with TDK.
That said, I'm really looking forward to Nolan's Inception.
I think that his Batman in BB is really good, too; they never had him deliver long speeches as Batman (which are probably the weakest parts of TDK), so the gruff Batman voice worked quite well because he was mostly barking out orders and intimidating threats.
We'll probably get a title announcement and MAYBE a villain announcement at Comic Con.
It fits the TDK time frame, although WB leaked the Ledger announcement the week before Comic Con to steal some of the thunder and then announced The Dark Knight title after it with a press release.
It fits the TDK time frame, although WB leaked the Ledger announcement the week before Comic Con to steal some of the thunder and then announced The Dark Knight title after it with a press release.
Danielsan said:
Then you're in the minority.
The only reason why the Joker is the best villian for the "Batman" universe is because he's a wildcard of sorts meaning the scope of what he can and can't do are not defined. Nolan is right to have the Joker be what he was in the TDK and leave it at that. Re-casting him would be a shame and a dishonor to Heath IMO.
Nolan gave us TDK which expanded the universe, but didn't necessarily leave off with where the story was going at the end of "Begins" in terms of the voice or narrative.
Bruce Wayne was put on pause and the world around him was brought to light. By going back to the narrative of Bruce Wayne, Nolan will get the unique chance to make the best Batman film of the entire trilogy and that is something a director usually doesn't get the opportunity to do.
If anything, Bale is spot on for Bruce Wayne but I'd like to see him disappear for a while after he finishes up the last Batman movie.
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I agree. But I think that no matter what, the general consensus will be that TDK was better, "becuz it had the joker lolz." But for people who are fans of Batman and Bruce Wayne, not even really comic geeks necessarily, but who just appreciate the character and like the mythos, Nolan has a great opportunity to knock one out of the park with Batman 3.
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Agreed. So agreed. Thomas Wayne is a god damn boss.DMczaf said:
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Oh, a moratorium WILL be instated, it's just a matter of whether or not WB's is gonna pay attention to it.jett said:
Supposedly, Jonathan Nolan is still being looked at for director of the new Superman:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/07/13...na-satine-for-mary-jane-watson-in-spider-man/
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/07/13...na-satine-for-mary-jane-watson-in-spider-man/
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quite a task for a first-time director.
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I think Nolan should consider catwoman, selina kyle. A criminal and a potential love interest for bruce. I bet everybody here will hate the idea, but that's just me.
The Story should really focus on Bruce again though, like Nolan said.
The Story should really focus on Bruce again though, like Nolan said.
Honestly, the villain I'd love to see most is still Riddler. Not the Saw-like incarnation people have been clamoring for, but a bit more like (not EXACTLY like) Simon Gruber from Die Hard With A Vengeance. A smart, brilliant person willing to engage a battle of brains, but with personal motives to do so.
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