Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Having switched to 4K Blu-rays a year ago, I can attest to this. When I am watching anything else, the colours just look so saturated to me now.
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Christopher Nolan is working on 4K remasters of his Dark Knight Trilogy
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Having switched to 4K Blu-rays a year ago, I can attest to this. When I am watching anything else, the colours just look so saturated to me now.
Kenzodielocke
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nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Good point, sometimes the bait is to strong I guess
dragonyeuw
Member
Arkham series on the big screen (thumbs up)
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Easily the best part of the movie and one of the best realizations of Batman on-screen during combat.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Cant wait for the 4k gif
I still can't believe that made into an actual movie. Isn't Nolan the second or something?
Inferno313
Banned
I don't understand the BvS comparison. That scene is cool, sure. It wouldn't fit in the semi-realistic world of The Dark Knight trilogy though. The BvS Batman, despite being a lot fucking darker, is also significantly more "comic-booky" and fantastical than the TDK Batman. That'd look goofy as shit if it randomly happened in the middle of TDK.
There wouldn't even be a reason for TDKR to exist if Batfleck was in that universe. He would just appear out of nowhere in the beginning of that film and shoot Bane along with everyone else on board out of the sky with his batwing.
And if by some chance Bane escaped with his life then later on in the sewers Batfleck would have absolutely destroyed Hardy's Bane. It would have been a 3 second fight.
The Dark Knight Rises had a 4K master for the regular Blu-ray, so resolution-wise it probably won't be as much of a jump. The Batman Begins Blu-ray, while a bit soft, didn't look bad either. The Dark Knight, however, looks terrible on Blu-ray.
The footage from TDK shot on 35mm went through IMAX's proprietary upconversion process at the time called DMR when it was integrated with the IMAX prints. This process, sadly, involved some filtering and edge enhancement for the shots in 35mm. This would've been somewhat noticeable when watching the IMAX version in the theater (I certainly did). Since they wanted to replicate the IMAX version on the BD release, they likely used an IMAX print for the transfer. As such, ringing and other artifacts in the 35mm sections would in fact be accurate to the IMAX version. It probably would've been better to use separate scans of the 35mm footage, but that's not as big of a deal. The real issue is whoever mastered it added additional edge enhancement and noise reduction on top of everything. Not only did the 35mm stuff get processed twice, the native IMAX footage got it's own dose of DNR and EE too when it should've been pristine.
You can actually see these differences by watching the Dark Knight prologue on the Batman Begins BD. It looks so much sharper and clearer without that additional processing. Further, the gamma and color timing is different from the Dark Knight BD. I don't know for sure if it's more accurate in that regard, but it certainly looks better and is closer to what I remember.
The footage from TDK shot on 35mm went through IMAX's proprietary upconversion process at the time called DMR when it was integrated with the IMAX prints. This process, sadly, involved some filtering and edge enhancement for the shots in 35mm. This would've been somewhat noticeable when watching the IMAX version in the theater (I certainly did). Since they wanted to replicate the IMAX version on the BD release, they likely used an IMAX print for the transfer. As such, ringing and other artifacts in the 35mm sections would in fact be accurate to the IMAX version. It probably would've been better to use separate scans of the 35mm footage, but that's not as big of a deal. The real issue is whoever mastered it added additional edge enhancement and noise reduction on top of everything. Not only did the 35mm stuff get processed twice, the native IMAX footage got it's own dose of DNR and EE too when it should've been pristine.
You can actually see these differences by watching the Dark Knight prologue on the Batman Begins BD. It looks so much sharper and clearer without that additional processing. Further, the gamma and color timing is different from the Dark Knight BD. I don't know for sure if it's more accurate in that regard, but it certainly looks better and is closer to what I remember.
The DVD is definitely less wrong than the Blu-ray, but it's wrong too. Out of all the official home releases, the LaserDisc is probably closest to the theatrical color timing. There's a bootleg of a 35mm film print scanned at 4K floating around that looks quite different from both the DVD and the BD, but is fairly similar to the LD.
IIRC, the theoretical resolution limit of 35mm film on good stock, scanned from the negative is a little above 4K at best. In practice, it's lower. The theatrical 35mm prints would often be lower still (sub-1080p). We've basically reached a point where the resolution of 35mm is maxed out. I believe 65 and 70mm is claimed to be around 16-18K though.
Inferno313
Banned
Ok? Sounds like a lame movie.
Goofy as opposed to what we got???? Really?
I've seen plenty of smaller TVs with 4K screens.
I don't agree that a screen has to be a certain size for the human eye to discern the difference. You're not using that old debunked chart are you?
True Savior
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Loads of effects were at 8k
http://www.studiodaily.com/2008/07/delivering-8k-vfx-shots-for-the-dark-knight/
Because's Baleman's martial art of holding your hands behind your head at all times is the epitome of realism.
Although I don't care for Murderman, I found that scene pretty grounded altogether from a choreography standpoint. Aside from the rampant killing, I don't see how it would be out of place for Baleman. And it's shot, set-up and edited so much better than any fight in the Nolan trilogy, let's be fair there to Snyder.
Fancyarcher
Member
Awesome, maybe now we can have a strong release of TDK that doesn't look so "iffy" in terms of screen release.
brickarts295
Member
Indeed, give me Prestige, Inception and Interstellar. Hell throw in Memento and Insomnia and I'll pay whatever for the Christopher Nolan's UHD Bunduru.
lmao and I thought Baleman looked goofy.
Nah the fights have pretty mediocre coreography, but are well shot and edited just like the rest of the movies.
The only "bad" part of the BVS warehouse fight is the part where the dude runs out of the door, pulls the pin on a grenade and then just menacingly grimaces at Batman for a few seconds instead of just, y'know, throwing it at him. I feel like the editing could have been tightened up a bit there.
This is gonna sound weird, but Nolan's Batman -- when you take into consideration the context of where he was trained -- always felt like he needed to fight with more eloquence and precision like Ip Man or something. This is especially when you know that he's been studying multiple fight styles prior to Batman Begins' story.
But instead, yeah, Baleman is practically just swinging haymakers and disarms all over the place as if he were in a pub prawl. That said, I still don't think they're that bad as fight scenes.
But instead, yeah, Baleman is practically just swinging haymakers and disarms all over the place as if he were in a pub prawl. That said, I still don't think they're that bad as fight scenes.
This is gonna sound weird, but Nolan's Batman -- when you take into consideration the context of where he was trained -- always felt like he needed to fight with more eloquence and precision like Ip Man or something. This is especially when you know that he's been studying multiple fight styles prior to Batman Begins' story.
But instead, yeah, Baleman is practically just swinging haymakers and disarms all over the place as if he were in a pub prawl. That said, I still don't think they're that bad as fight scenes.
It's exactly how I feel. Your Ip Man analogy is great. Nolan got the wrong idea on how Batman fights honestly. Even Batman '89 looks like he fights more using a real martial art than Baleman.
Snyder's Batman wins in this regard because he made him look really quick and powerful at least. No doubt with the help of CGI though.
gutter_trash
Banned
3 pages, and this gif hasn't been posted yet
am disapoint
m_shortpants
Member
Fuck, I bought the trilogy on Blu Ray not too long ago.
Ah well.
Ah well.
The best thing about that movie...shame about the movie as a whole.
DangerMouse
Member
Hell yes, need these.
Edit: Yeah, that BvS fight was so damned good.
Yeah!
Yep, day 1 along with Interstellar.
Edit: Yeah, that BvS fight was so damned good.
Yeah!
Yep, day 1 along with Interstellar.
Bale's Batman is also lucky that all bad guys run directly at him with their guns instead of just shooting him. Much realism.
Fast Forward
Member
I just hope most studios skip "4K remasters," and skip straight to 8K remasters to further proof themselves, because 8K is bound to be the next thing, much like 1080p was the next thing after 720p.
Purple Cheeto
Member
Is he gonna remember to include Batman this time?
MetalGearZed
Member
am i deaf or is there no gunfire sound the clip you linked?
ss_lemonade
Member
Where's the gun sound effect though? I only hear the one that comes after the sliding guy section
The only Batman film property that matters outside of animation.
Still doesn't take away from the quality of the trilogy.
Still doesn't take away from the quality of the trilogy.