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Chrono Trigger DS: The |OT|
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bishopcruz
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Azala is a
Mind blown.
Also, the new script really shows in Zeal. The added details really really help flesh out the world.
female?
Mind blown.
Also, the new script really shows in Zeal. The added details really really help flesh out the world.
TheCardPlayer
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Lolwut?Synless said:
I never beat Chrono Trigger in my youth because I never owned an SNES (fucking Sega Genesis...) and because the first ROM I found was all bugged up and I could never beat this one part where I had to chase a rat in the future.
So now I am about 4 hours in to my first DS play through and I got right up to the part I never beat this morning on the way to work. Incidentally, my work day has been going as slow as molasses. I can't wait to boot this game back up. I haven't been enamored by an RPG since KOTOR, I love it.
So now I am about 4 hours in to my first DS play through and I got right up to the part I never beat this morning on the way to work. Incidentally, my work day has been going as slow as molasses. I can't wait to boot this game back up. I haven't been enamored by an RPG since KOTOR, I love it.
I haven't heard nearly all the songs in the game yet, but so far, it all sounds pretty damn excellent. Headphones, of course. DS speakers are pretty nice for a portable system, but they're going to be a downgrade from a good set of headphones... and probably most TVs from the SNES days.
Chasing the rat is easy, come on! Especially in this version, that has you running by default (no need to hold B to run anymore). That said, I'm not so sure you NEED to catch the rat to progress. I could be wrong. Either way, the command for opening the path to the supercomputer that the rat gives you when getting caught is to hold L+R has you hit A to investigate the sparkling panel next to the locked door. If you've changed your default controls, adjust buttons accordingly.
Edit - Some sound effects definitely sound off. Chrono's slash/critical sound effects are different. I preferred the SNES sound. It seems more like an intentional change rather than an actual sound issue.
Chasing the rat is easy, come on! Especially in this version, that has you running by default (no need to hold B to run anymore). That said, I'm not so sure you NEED to catch the rat to progress. I could be wrong. Either way, the command for opening the path to the supercomputer that the rat gives you when getting caught is to hold L+R has you hit A to investigate the sparkling panel next to the locked door. If you've changed your default controls, adjust buttons accordingly.
Edit - Some sound effects definitely sound off. Chrono's slash/critical sound effects are different. I preferred the SNES sound. It seems more like an intentional change rather than an actual sound issue.
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
rom? Piracy isn't cool.jon bones said:
VindicatorZ
Member
DarkAngelYuna said:
who hasn't played a ROM of an old SNES game before? Relax.
Death_Born
Banned
DarkAngelYuna said:
I assume you have a working SNES and old Chrono Trigger cart, then?
Death_Born
Banned
Jswanko said:
You have to go left in the starting point, then go around and jump back in.
TheCardPlayer
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The music is exactly the same. Get headphones instead of using the shitty DS speakers.Synless said:
TheCardPlayer
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Nothing will ever be worse than WW Triforce hunt.Jammy said:
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I heard that the new ending video that ties CT to CC was only if you finished the three Dimensional Vortex dungeons, yet when I beat
, I got the animated ending. I guess the info I heard was wrong.
Lavos
Death_Born
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thetrin said:
Once you beat the 3 Dimensional Vortex dungeons,
in the ending Magus erases his own memory and then conquers Present-day Guardia, stealing the Masamune and making it evil. I think.
Death_Born
Banned
thetrin said:
Well, it doesn't happen immediately. You have to
fight a stronger version of Lavos form 1. Something about absorbing Schala and transporting to a parallel universe. So Magus, being unable to save Schala, decides to erase his memory.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Death_Born said:
Well yeah. That's because
Lavos becomes the Time Devourer when it merges with Schala (which appears in CC).
Mejilan said:
Ayla's charm is insanely useful, especially if you intend to outfit your entire team with Gold Studs. You only get one from a chest. The rest have to be charmed.
The same is true if you intend to get Nova Armor for your whole party (though both are totally not required considering the game is so easy).
TheCardPlayer
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Actually it's the contrary if that make sense.kiryogi said:
Death_Born
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User2k said:
You haven't finished TWEWY yet? So zetta slow!
My copy finally arrived! (I blame UPS, I ordered something else that shipped the same day with the postal service and arrived by Wednesday.)
This game is so charming, reminds me how much I love spirtes. 3d is nice and all, but sometimes lacks character.
I'm still amazed at how much of this game I remember, especially not having played it since my one runthrough on the PS1 version 7 years ago. A near perfect port in my pocket is fantastic.
You can still beat Gato and run away before getting your Silver Points :lol Love this game.
This game is so charming, reminds me how much I love spirtes. 3d is nice and all, but sometimes lacks character.
I'm still amazed at how much of this game I remember, especially not having played it since my one runthrough on the PS1 version 7 years ago. A near perfect port in my pocket is fantastic.
You can still beat Gato and run away before getting your Silver Points :lol Love this game.
Death_Born
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dankir said:
I believe that Athenian Water was called Revive, and they did change a lot of the names.
baphometbones
Member
Yeah, I'm about 4 hours in and Athenian Water still throws me off a bit. I'm not sure if I prefer the change or not honestly, but it's certainly more creative. I guess I'm just so used to seeing the old names.
Like the hat?
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a lot of the dialog changes are bothering me. especially the change of "but you're still hungry" to "but you're still just as hungry as before"
I'm actually seeing a lot of changes listed that would annoy me in this thread... Is this DS version of Chrono Trigger an improvement in any way? The modernization of Frog's dialogue would bug me the most.JodyAnthony said:
Fans of the SNES version, is there anything you like better about the DS release?
bishopcruz
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Teddman said:
Frog's language isn't modernized per se, it just loses the ridiculous "thou's" that were very poorly implemented in the original (I replayed it earlier this year, and they really stood out.)
He still speaks formally, and differently than people from 1000 AD, in fact all people from 600 AD do. It works better IMO, and is less jarring. It's much better than the accent filled mess that is DQIV, and overall I think it is a better translation than the original.
Again, I don't want to downplay Woolsey's original translation, it was AMAZING for the time, especially considering the content restrictions, limited space, and americanization required. This translation is different, but it seems like people are getting riled up over some of the most random sentences, just because they are marginally different. I don't get that.
POWERSPHERE
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I've never played this before and Frogs speech is unique to him and suits his character for a first time play through. I'm so glad they didn't mess with the graphics, it's such a nice looking game, glad it's not a shitty DS 3D port of it, wouldn't be half as fun to play.
IMHO, the people complaining about the translation are full of nostalgic shit. This one is far, far superior technically (from a linguistic standpoint); generally delivering lines with increased drama and power, where relevant.
As a bonus, this version is also "de-censored" with moderate curses and references to death and alcohol restored. Woolsey's translation was fine for the time, and probably a huge accomplishment given the restraints of the times, imposed by both Nintendo's localization policies and Squaresoft's timelines.
I would think that folks would be more pissed off about the censorship in the SNES/PSOne versions. As for Frog, specifically, he now delivers his lines with a greatly increased degree of quiet dignity, since you're no longer laughing at his mangled English. Though I do agree on one point. "Yah!" is not as good as "Yes, indeed!" But that's a minor point, very easy to shrug off in light of all the other vast improvements.
To put it bluntly, this version of Chrono Trigger features a script that would make just about any modern (that is, not 8 or 16 bit) RPG proud. The original's translation was a standout compared to the largely shitty work done during those times, but hasn't aged all that well.
As a bonus, this version is also "de-censored" with moderate curses and references to death and alcohol restored. Woolsey's translation was fine for the time, and probably a huge accomplishment given the restraints of the times, imposed by both Nintendo's localization policies and Squaresoft's timelines.
I would think that folks would be more pissed off about the censorship in the SNES/PSOne versions. As for Frog, specifically, he now delivers his lines with a greatly increased degree of quiet dignity, since you're no longer laughing at his mangled English. Though I do agree on one point. "Yah!" is not as good as "Yes, indeed!" But that's a minor point, very easy to shrug off in light of all the other vast improvements.
To put it bluntly, this version of Chrono Trigger features a script that would make just about any modern (that is, not 8 or 16 bit) RPG proud. The original's translation was a standout compared to the largely shitty work done during those times, but hasn't aged all that well.
Segata Sanshiro
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To hell with it, then.Teddman said:
I have to agree mejilan, the translation is simply better in the DS version. Phrases/words/sentences that had to be censored and shortened to eke out an iota of sense on the snes cart are now fully fleshed out.
One of my friends was commenting last night that , upon finding the seeds in 2300 AD the original translation used the word "healthy" to describe your crew and the dome residents say it has a nice ring to it. This new version changes that completly to what I'm guessing was the original intent of that bit of dialog. Your crew mentions they have "hope" and the elder mentions that he hasn't had any hope in some time. A bit more emotional impact I think.
One of my friends was commenting last night that , upon finding the seeds in 2300 AD the original translation used the word "healthy" to describe your crew and the dome residents say it has a nice ring to it. This new version changes that completly to what I'm guessing was the original intent of that bit of dialog. Your crew mentions they have "hope" and the elder mentions that he hasn't had any hope in some time. A bit more emotional impact I think.
