POWERSPHERE
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Evlar said:
I think this, Link to the Past, and Mother 3 are some solid reasons that this style of 2D pixel game design should never die. So great.
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Chrono Trigger DS: The |OT|
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I think this, Link to the Past, and Mother 3 are some solid reasons that this style of 2D pixel game design should never die. So great.
Just got the game. I'm at 600 AD for the first time. I've only played about an hour of Chrono Trigger before this, so I'm excited to experience the game for the first time. I'd be playing right now, but my DS needs to have its battery recharged, and I can't play it with the AC adapter plugged in because I left my adapter at the dorm, had to buy a crappy knockoff because I have a fat DS, and the cord is too short for me to play it with the AC adapter in it.
First-timer here. I've always been way more of a PC RPGer than a JRPGer, but I thought I'd pick this up for a long plane ride I have coming up considering how it's viewed as a classic. I thought I'd pick this up yesterday and play for an hour to just get a feel for the mechanics. I've made the mistake of trying a game for the first time on a plane before (ahem, Disgaea) and figured I'd get into the meat of the game first so I could parse through any issues I had with the mechanics ahead of time.
Lo and behold, I wound up playing for over six hours, and would have played for more had it not been 2 A.M. when I stopped. The game just seems to move along at a perfect pace. I'm a leveling whore in any RPG, but it was nice that I got all of the leveling I apparently needed in the couple times I got "stuck" (staircases I didn't see) and had to wander around. The writing is also quite enjoyable and on par with the Paper Mario translations, at least enjoyable enough for me to not mind walking around a town talking to everyone (the occasional rewards are nice too, however small).
The mechanics are interesting. I have to say that it felt like I had missed something in my first few battles. I was just mashing the A button so I didn't lose a split second attacking the early weak monsters. Though I've started using Techs and items as needed, I still feel like even when I know exactly what I want to do (e.g., dual tech+potion) monsters sneak in at least a shot or two on me while I'm selecting. Almost makes me wish I had hotkeys, har. But perhaps that's an intentional tradeoff. I know I can reduce the speed or go turn-based, but I'll leave it as it is since that would probably make the game too easy and mess up the pacing, at least for me.
Music is very good too. I'm not as nostalgic for old video-game tunes as many, but I almost never play my portables with the volume on, and I do for this one. The music does a great job of reinforcing the atmosphere.
An in-progress 9.4/10.
Lo and behold, I wound up playing for over six hours, and would have played for more had it not been 2 A.M. when I stopped. The game just seems to move along at a perfect pace. I'm a leveling whore in any RPG, but it was nice that I got all of the leveling I apparently needed in the couple times I got "stuck" (staircases I didn't see) and had to wander around. The writing is also quite enjoyable and on par with the Paper Mario translations, at least enjoyable enough for me to not mind walking around a town talking to everyone (the occasional rewards are nice too, however small).
The mechanics are interesting. I have to say that it felt like I had missed something in my first few battles. I was just mashing the A button so I didn't lose a split second attacking the early weak monsters. Though I've started using Techs and items as needed, I still feel like even when I know exactly what I want to do (e.g., dual tech+potion) monsters sneak in at least a shot or two on me while I'm selecting. Almost makes me wish I had hotkeys, har. But perhaps that's an intentional tradeoff. I know I can reduce the speed or go turn-based, but I'll leave it as it is since that would probably make the game too easy and mess up the pacing, at least for me.
Music is very good too. I'm not as nostalgic for old video-game tunes as many, but I almost never play my portables with the volume on, and I do for this one. The music does a great job of reinforcing the atmosphere.
An in-progress 9.4/10.
Gamecocks625
Member
AstroLad said:
Well, it's definitely on my in-law Christmas list. As for better speakers, I think the DSi is supposed to improve on that front. You're right though, I just use my iPod earphones most of the time as the DS Lite speakers aren't the greatest.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I use these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000065BPB/?tag=neogaf0e-20AstroLad said:
Sennheiser HD-280
Not too expensive, and sounds great for the price. The music sounds so much better using those than when I just have the DS speakers only.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
It's interesting how the perception of a game can change what one wishes to accomplish with it. I wouldn't dream of getting all of the endings back in the SNES days, no internal tracking or whatnot plus it was on the TV. With this DS version I can play Chrono Trigger wherever and I finally nabbed all of the endings. Now I don't know what to do besides max everybody's level out.
SabinFigaro
Member
Weird nitpick: I just beat Magus, and I noticed that his Dark Matter tech doesn't make the "twinkling noise" before it finishes. It's hard to explain, but watch this and skip to 7:15 to see what I mean.
SabinFigaro said:
You know what that vid drives home?
I REALLY don't miss having the GUI on the same screen as the rest of the battle!
But yes, there are a few examples here and there of where they seemingly purposefully changed around/removed some sound effects. Not really use why, considering the care that was taken in porting the graphics and music so accurately.
Date of Lies
Banned
I just saw the new
I'm kinda confused though, would anyone like to share their thoughts?
ending
I'm kinda confused though, would anyone like to share their thoughts?
More precisely, what did Magus forget and want to remember?
badrockjones
Member
This game is reason enough to own a DS, but man oh man, where's my full 3d FFVI remake in the vein of the FF2 (US, I can't remember which that is in Japan) DS game?
Come on, Square! Milk it!
Come on, Square! Milk it!
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
if anything, i'd rather they remake some of the 3d psx final fantasies in 2d on ds! final fantasy 9 would be wonderful with chrono trigger's art style and zero load times.
badrockjones
Member
The thing about FFVI is, I've played it in 2D plenty of times. I'd love to play through it again with a new look at that world, in 3D. With Chrono, oddly, it's the opposite. Call me crazy, but I think the World of Ruin stuff would be approximately 130% more awesome in 3D.
Edit: I agree that a 2D "demake" of FF9 for the DS would be rad, and would sell like gangbusters (if gangbusters are something that sell well).
Edit: I agree that a 2D "demake" of FF9 for the DS would be rad, and would sell like gangbusters (if gangbusters are something that sell well).
Pretty far into it now I think, in Ocean Palace. Game really builds momentum nicely; I'm enjoying it even more now than after my first few hours, and the game flows quite well once you get familiar with all the different locations. Going back to open all the old chests and doors with the pendant was really a cinch. Bummed out that I can't level my techs anymore though.
I've been doing the
quests in the
. CT is so much fun all the time.
"
"
"RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!"
:lol
Also, my monster in the arena is a Royal Guard now. I still have to get any outstanding rewards there, the items I'm getting at the end of the tier 4 battles are pretty standard stuff (like Lapis, etc. Not bad, but still...). At least the trust stat is raised when you battle.
Reptites
Lost Sanctum
"
Hairless apes!
"RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!"
:lol
Also, my monster in the arena is a Royal Guard now. I still have to get any outstanding rewards there, the items I'm getting at the end of the tier 4 battles are pretty standard stuff (like Lapis, etc. Not bad, but still...). At least the trust stat is raised when you battle.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
picked this up yesterday. it really is just a better game top to bottom than it was on snes. the translation is really nicely cleaned up, and the main screen is just so much less cluttered without the battle options and shit. i'm loving what a great job they did with it.
and call me a sucker, but that opening cinematic really made me want more chrono trigger/cross. how can anyone watch that and not see all the potential for a franchise?
and call me a sucker, but that opening cinematic really made me want more chrono trigger/cross. how can anyone watch that and not see all the potential for a franchise?
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
does classic put the battle options on the top screen?
Speaking of buttons, I wish every game let me change what buttons do what, it seems older games had this option much more frequently than recent ones.
Instead of hammering the A button I've changed X for confirmations, Y for cancel and B for the menu. It may seem strange but more than once I've had the X (PS2) and A buttons getting busted in my controllers in the past (shared and still share them with visiting friends and brother after all), so since then I love changing the configuration (usually in RPGs, I did the same recently emulating Chrono Cross in the PSP) so I can give some work to the more ignored buttons.
Instead of hammering the A button I've changed X for confirmations, Y for cancel and B for the menu. It may seem strange but more than once I've had the X (PS2) and A buttons getting busted in my controllers in the past (shared and still share them with visiting friends and brother after all), so since then I love changing the configuration (usually in RPGs, I did the same recently emulating Chrono Cross in the PSP) so I can give some work to the more ignored buttons.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
well it certainly still looks great, like chrono trigger always did. but there's something to be said for having a clean battle screen, especially for someone who's played it so many times before and will pick up on the minutiae that the remake tweaks.
Torquill
Member
I noticed the second he used it, hehe. That was always the first "oh shit" move an enemy used against me. WOndering if I was about to get wiped out.SabinFigaro said:
The more I play CT the more I realize that it's most impressive achievement is probably it's pacing. I think that's what may set it apart so much from other RPGS.
baphometbones
Member
I've never even seen that Chancellor artwork, I figured he would have the "fat" Toriyama character face. Of all the games I'd like to have an artbook for, this is one of them.
gray_fox224
Junior Member
Just bought it and playing it for the first time. The music is excellent.Can't wait till the game moves away from the fair.
Gamecocks625
Member
Dang. You guys were right. This game looks beautiful on the DS Lite.
I basically cleared the game a few days ago. First (non-NG+) run-through, and got endings 1, 2, and 3. Having wrapped up all of the awesome, awesome, endgame sidequests, I'm working through the extra content added to this version. The Lost Sanctum is absolutely horrible. Basically 3 hours of non-stop backtracking and fetch-questing. I wouldn't even mind the fetch-questing so much if I wasn't stuck backtracking over the same 4 or 5 boring maps filled with the same pathetically easy enemy encounters.
Still, the Lost Sanctum is finally done. I've also just cleared the first of 3 Dimensional Vortices. So far, this is handled much better than the Lost Sanctum. 2 more to go, and I believe I open up the new, 13th ending.
Still, the Lost Sanctum is finally done. I've also just cleared the first of 3 Dimensional Vortices. So far, this is handled much better than the Lost Sanctum. 2 more to go, and I believe I open up the new, 13th ending.
Anyone wants to fill me in on the added weapons in the DS version? What about the added area. I'm at
Such a fine game.
Also, do your teammates grow in level while not active? I don't seem to remember that, do techpoints grow too?
Magic Kingdom about to fight that monster that holds one of the guru's captured in ice.
Also, do your teammates grow in level while not active? I don't seem to remember that, do techpoints grow too?
After you move the barrels you should be able to cross the assembly line. Just don't get caught by the crane.Ecto311 said:
Oh man, some of the new weapons, accessories, and armors are disgustingly overpowered. Chrono's TRUE Ultimate weapon basically looks like his old one (the Rainbow), but does even more damage and has like a 90% critical hit rate! Naaaaasty!
Non-party members gain about 75% of the exp per battle, but no TPs.
Non-party members gain about 75% of the exp per battle, but no TPs.
I'm loving the game so far. I'm in
for the second time. I'm really enjoying the story and battle system so far. Still not sure what team I should use, and the story forcing me to use certain characters prevents me from trying out all the teams. But it's nice to have so many options.
Though I must admit that I hate
13,000 BC
Though I must admit that I hate
2300 AD. Every little damn place is so labyrinthy and the dungeon you had to get through the first time you went there was boring. Not to mention you always have to cross areas like Site 32 and Site 16 if you want to get anywhere. Frankly I wouldn't mind never going there again, but I'm guessing I have to.
^^
In true Square-Enix fashion, you'll find alternate modes of transportation (beyond time portals) in short order.
Yes, that's level 100. A level ** Chrono equipped with the Prismspecs accessory and the Dreamedge (I think that's what his new ultimate weapon is called) and a ** Strength rating can easily hit 4000 on his crits... which happen about 9 times out of 10 with that weapon! Hahahaha.
Magus' new ultimate weapon does 4x when it crits. Cool beans.
In true Square-Enix fashion, you'll find alternate modes of transportation (beyond time portals) in short order.
Teetris said:
Yes, that's level 100. A level ** Chrono equipped with the Prismspecs accessory and the Dreamedge (I think that's what his new ultimate weapon is called) and a ** Strength rating can easily hit 4000 on his crits... which happen about 9 times out of 10 with that weapon! Hahahaha.
Magus' new ultimate weapon does 4x when it crits. Cool beans.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Damn, there's a lot to do in this game.
Amazing so far, just wish I could have gotten
instead of the other "optional" member.
Amazing so far, just wish I could have gotten
Schala