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Chrono Trigger DS: The |OT|
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Wii Will Rock U
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:lolFuu said:I was looking at some pics and got amused at how Chancellor looks like such a nice old guy in the artwork. :lol
Any links to where I could find all the Toriyama art?
Shalashaska
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Well I think I'm just about done the game. I've been enjoying it quite a bit but the end (at least I think so) is pretty annoying. The
is pretty frustrating.
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ConsumerSquare
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Santa dropped the ball and failed to bring this to me, so I bought it my own damn self. I've been waiting for a re-release since my cart was permanently "borrowed." I was a little nervous that nostalgia had colored my opinion of this game, but it's just so so solid.
How did random battles survive post-Chrono Trigger? Sometimes I catch myself getting tense while exploring because I'm so conditioned to have it ruined by a jarring battle transition.
And the art! FFVI and CT are sort of the bookends of my SNES experience, and it's really quite impressive to compare them. FFVI is a lot like watching a puppet show where set pieces are artful approximations, if that makes sense, while CT really came into its own with images that stand on their own even today. The Trial, for example, hasn't aged at all.
How did random battles survive post-Chrono Trigger? Sometimes I catch myself getting tense while exploring because I'm so conditioned to have it ruined by a jarring battle transition.
And the art! FFVI and CT are sort of the bookends of my SNES experience, and it's really quite impressive to compare them. FFVI is a lot like watching a puppet show where set pieces are artful approximations, if that makes sense, while CT really came into its own with images that stand on their own even today. The Trial, for example, hasn't aged at all.
Because random battles are still a valid, viable gameplay approach. Visible and/or avoidable battles (because the two do not always coincide) are merely another approach, not an evolution.
Variety is the spice of life.
That said, I'm wrapping up this game. I'm about to finish off the very last of the bonus dungeons/quests, and I guess after that comes the new last boss and the horrible new ending added to this port.
Variety is the spice of life.
That said, I'm wrapping up this game. I'm about to finish off the very last of the bonus dungeons/quests, and I guess after that comes the new last boss and the horrible new ending added to this port.
How can you get 4/13 endings? I only got 1.Mejilan said:
I did some of the things in the past too...
beat the flying fortress, found the rainbow shell, restored the forest with Robo's help..
This was my first time playing through and I absolutely loved it. I really want to play Chrono Cross now.
Wii Will Rock U said:
I'd like to know this too.
Also if its one thing I DONT like about games like CT and even Persona 4, its that you always have to leave someone behind. Especially when I like all the characters. As far as sound goes...sounds just fine to me through the DS speakers. Remember bringing something like this up before :lol
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It's used as the BGM of the snow level in one of the dimensional vortexes.
Gamecocks625
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Since I enjoy games that primarily use the stylus, I'm trying my best to get used to the touch screen controls. It's a bit tricky, though, during combat.
Anyone else using the new control method?
Anyone else using the new control method?
Meier said:How can you get 4/13 endings? I only got 1.beat the flying fortress, found the rainbow shell, restored the forest with Robo's help..
This was my first time playing through and I absolutely loved it. I really want to play Chrono Cross now.
Doing sidequests, destroying the Epoch, and certain in game decisions all tweak most of the various endings. But to specifically get different endings, it's almost always about WHEN (in the story) you fight Lavos. If you (over-)level enough, as I did, it's very possible to get more than 1 or 2 before you ever New Game +.
But to answer your question specifically, these are the four endings I got, in the order I got them:
- Killing Lavos in the story fight you're supposed to lose that would normally kill Chrono.
- Killing Lavos at any point after that and before restoring Chrono to life.
- Killing Lavos towards the end of the game after restoring Chrono to life.
- Killing the Dream Devourer (new, bonus final final boss) after completing the Lost Sanctum and Dimensional Vortices content added to the DS port. This boss and ending is exclusive to the DS game.
- Killing Lavos at any point after that and before restoring Chrono to life.
- Killing Lavos towards the end of the game after restoring Chrono to life.
- Killing the Dream Devourer (new, bonus final final boss) after completing the Lost Sanctum and Dimensional Vortices content added to the DS port. This boss and ending is exclusive to the DS game.
There are plenty more to be had (9 more unique recorded endings, not including tweaks/variants) but most of those basically require a New Game +, for a variety of reasons.
As of tomorrow morning, I'll be replacing my DS + Chrono Trigger commute-to-work companions with my PSP + Chrono Cross.
Elfforkusu
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OKAY, I finally found a problem with this port:
The echoing of sound effects in Magus's lair. It's not there! WTF is this crap Square, I want a refund!
eh, I'm over it.
To stay on topic: random battles are awful, and you are a bad person if you like them.
Random bonus note: I'm actually playing with the new control scheme, but without using the stylus.
The echoing of sound effects in Magus's lair. It's not there! WTF is this crap Square, I want a refund!
eh, I'm over it.
To stay on topic: random battles are awful, and you are a bad person if you like them.
Random bonus note: I'm actually playing with the new control scheme, but without using the stylus.
dragonlife
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I just started the game for the first time ever.
I opted for Classic mode.
I opted for Classic mode.
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dragonlife29 said:
Eh, I really think the improvements made were for the best. But you'll enjoy the game no matter how you decide to play it!
Mejilan said:
Pretty much. DS mode doesnt even make you use the touch screen. Map is handy, main screen being uncluttered along with all character info on one screen is always nice.
EDIT: Heh. Always liked Azala's theme. Not sure what the actual song name is since I just reached that section, but it always sounded so sinister to me.
OH and after hearing about FFXIII's seemingly Chrono Trigger meets Advent Children style battle system, i'd really like to see a third Chrono Universe (not really a sequel) game with that style battle system, Akira Toriyama's character designs and Yasunori Mitsuda composing. Level 5 Dragon Quest style cell shading too.
I'm doing the Lost Sanctum right now. So far I'm not a fan of this area. The quest format is repetitive and it requires FAR too much backtracking. Example:
It's a serious departure from the rest of the game. Even though the game relies heavily on time travelling, there really isn't that much backtracking and when there is it's typically brief (
). I'll finish Lost Sanctum, but only begrudgingly.
Middle Ages. In an earlier mission, you fought a Nu Mou. The same guy wants you to defeat another one, as he is clearly a fan of pallet swaps. Anyways, you go out of the village, through the southlands, and into the mountain area where you meet the Nu Mou and he runs away. So you chase after him, but the ladder is broken. So you have to haul your butt back to the village and talk to someone who mentions that you need to get some vines to repair it. So you go back to the southlands, get the vines, and then go back to the mountain. However, you can't repair it due to general incompetence I suppose, so you have to go all the way back out of the village and into the world map so you can go back to 65 Million BC. You then have to go through the vilage, southlands, and back to the mountain where you put your new bridge there so it can be used in the future. Then you go BACK through the southlands and the village, travel to the Middle Ages, and then through the village, southlands, and you can finally climb this bridge on a mountain. However the mountain has the most irregular path imaginable so you are constantly zig zagging through the area. There's a savepoint about halfway through. Anyways, when you get to the top of the mountain, YOU AUTOMATICALLY HAVE TO FIGHT THIS NU MOU GUY even though you had to trek up like half a mountain from the last save point and the game teases you with a save point directly behind this guy. After you beat him, you have to haul your ass back to the village to get your reward.
It's a serious departure from the rest of the game. Even though the game relies heavily on time travelling, there really isn't that much backtracking and when there is it's typically brief (
like getting the tools for the carpenters so they can repair the northern ruins and the sunstone fiasco
The Lost Sanctum sucked. Hard.
The Dimensional Vortices are much more fun. I actually rather liked them, though if you want to see everything in each, and get everything, you'll need to replay them. That's due to their pseudo-randomized layout element.
The Dimensional Vortices are much more fun. I actually rather liked them, though if you want to see everything in each, and get everything, you'll need to replay them. That's due to their pseudo-randomized layout element.
My brother surprised me with this for Christmas (wasn't expecting it at all), which made me super happy, considering CT is my favorite game of all time. After switching back and forth between Classic mode and DS mode I settled on Classic, as I much prefer having everything on one screen.
Initially I was a bit slow in playing this, as I don't really play RPGs anymore (I don't play games much at all for that matter due to the time they take up), but I quickly got sucked in. This game is just as much as fun as I remember it being all those years ago; it really hasn't aged at all. I love how battles are initiated, dual and triple techs are awesome (esp. once you start getting really powerful ones), going back and forth between different time periods is cool, the music is amazing, etc. etc.
Right now I'm on the "The Hero Appears" chapter. I'm definitely a bit too leveled up, as I'm pretty sure bosses are falling much quicker than they should. That's partly because I went to
and did a lot of fighting there before realizing that I couldn't do anything to advance the story there yet. Oh well.
Initially I was a bit slow in playing this, as I don't really play RPGs anymore (I don't play games much at all for that matter due to the time they take up), but I quickly got sucked in. This game is just as much as fun as I remember it being all those years ago; it really hasn't aged at all. I love how battles are initiated, dual and triple techs are awesome (esp. once you start getting really powerful ones), going back and forth between different time periods is cool, the music is amazing, etc. etc.
Right now I'm on the "The Hero Appears" chapter. I'm definitely a bit too leveled up, as I'm pretty sure bosses are falling much quicker than they should. That's partly because I went to
65,000,000 B.C.
Gamecocks625
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Drakken said:
I've done that too. I spent so much time there (still leveling up though) before I realized I wasn't even supposed to be there. :lol
Has anyone else played around with the Arena of Ages at all? I started "training" a monster as soon as I reached the End of Time and you can win some pretty good stuff. So far my guy has changed class twice: First he changed into an Ogen (think one of those beast-like guys with the hammers) and then into a Flesh Reaper (looks like one of those floating skeletons with a scythe). He can now enter tier 5 matches... which has won me better weapons then what I can currently buy in any town right now, as well as even rarer stuff like Speed capsules and Magic capsules.
I haven't had a chance to try out actual multiplayer yet, but that's mostly because my buddies who have the game haven't done much with their creature yet... I would probably KO them in one hit. :lol
I haven't had a chance to try out actual multiplayer yet, but that's mostly because my buddies who have the game haven't done much with their creature yet... I would probably KO them in one hit. :lol
Javaman said:
I don't remember which one I started with, but don't start with the one in the middle - that could cause problems. Just go back and forth down the line hitting each one until Marle is almost into the fire and then quickly run over and hit the ... whatever it is you have to hit. Depending on how quickly the coins reappear, either go something like L M R M L M R (and so on) or R M L R M L (I think this is what I did). I would save on the world map before attempting it; that way you can reload your game if you mess up.
Splash Wave
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Has anyone noticed that parts of this game look darker than they should be? I just made it to the Apocalypse and during the vault sequence, things seemed particularly dark. When that one enemy that attacks when it senses motion performs an action, the screen seems to brighten for a moment to what I think it should look like.
Or maybe I'm just crazy.
Or maybe I'm just crazy.
SabinFigaro
Member
The brightening of the screen occurs in these areas (both dark and foggy) with most lightening and beam attacks. It also occurred in the SNES version.Jimmy Stav said:
Splash Wave
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SabinFigaro said:
Hmm. The brighter version looked "right" for some reason.
I dove into the Arena of Ages as soon as the game started. I wanted to earn money to buy Melchior's absurdly expensive Silver Sword at the start of the game.Dreavus said:
Your initial Smidge can take out pretty much all his equals, but then there's this snake (Ouroboros) who's at least twice as strong as you. What I did was send my Smidge out for training, but reset (and load a backup save) if he came back as anything but a Smidge (because when you increase your class, so do your enemies). After a few rounds of training, I could beat the snake. Beating him seems to either get you stat-increase capsules, a useless Mop, or one of the new ultra-rare mirrors.
After winning weapons and armor from the Smidges, I was able to sell it and afford to get into Tier 2, and then Tier 3, where I got Crono a Thunder Blade (even better than the Silver Sword) and Titanium Vest, on top of several accessories like Silver Studs (which let you use 50% MP) and Berserker Rings (which made me nearly invincible through 600AD).
Now I'm at the End of Time and I went back in and I caved and let my monster evolve (I was tempted to leave him a Smidge so I'd have access to 100G stat-boost items). Now he can enter Tier 4 and win things like the colored Vests that heal you 50% of certain elemental attacks, and if I let him evolve again to get into Tier 5 he can win those colored Plates that heal 100%. I always loved those armors, so I think I'll take those over stat-boost items (which can be stolen/charmed later in the game).
I always run over to the right icon at the start, and fire them off right-to left. Then run over to the right again and fire them right-to-left a second time, and then this second time around you keep going left and hit the button to save your friend. At this point, the two monsters on the right side are usually defeated, and you have a huge safety margin to finish things.Javaman said:
The 80-point game is the easiest one to win IMO, and IIRC it gives you the most
cat food
Edit:
No, don't start with the middle one, or sweep back and forth. You spend too much time waiting for the icons to reappear unevenly that way. Just sweep one direction, and repeat with sweeping in that direction. I suggest right-to-left because it puts you in the right spot to save your friend and the last possible instant.Drakken said:
Gamecocks625
Member
I'm stuck at the Golem twins. They half everyone's HP at the beginning of the battle and copy every thing I throw at them. ugh.
SabinFigaro
Member
A couple of options, using the same technique, and that is to exploit one element. The easiest way to do this is to equip Ruby Vests and only use fire attacks. Ruby Vests are easily obtained from the Prehistoric Era, and Lucca should have Fire2 by now (right?).Gamecocks625 said:
The method I use for my initial playthrough is to charm Rainbow Helm's from Mudbeasts at the foot of Mount Woe, equip them and the White Plate (found in 1000AD after powering up the sealed chest in 600AD), and blast the Golem's with Crono's Luminaire. At this point, you should have Luminaire, especially after fighting Rubbles on Mount Woe. However, you may have not charmed the Mudbeasts, and they're definitely gone by now.
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Alright, sign me up as one of the supporters for "The Lost Sanctum sucks" side.
I'm never going up and down that mountain again.
Another option for the golem twins is to use the (insert color)Vests/plates. they absorb 50/100% of the attack cast, that you get by opening the "mysterious locked" chests or charming from some enemies.
I'm never going up and down that mountain again.
Another option for the golem twins is to use the (insert color)Vests/plates. they absorb 50/100% of the attack cast, that you get by opening the "mysterious locked" chests or charming from some enemies.
Splash Wave
Member
Is Lucca very useful early on in the game? I can't find a reason to use her over Robo or Marle.
SabinFigaro
Member
I've never found Lucca to be useful, period.Jimmy Stav said:
Elfforkusu
Member
Well, you can beat the first one by spamming magic attacks so he can't get a word in edgewise. So ...Gamecocks625 said:
(don't use physical attacks, you'll kill us all!)
Gamecocks625
Member
Awakened said:
That's exactly what I did. Thanks for the help!
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
finished this yesterday. what a lovely, lovely game. it always makes me sad when i play it, though, realizing that despite its quality this sort of game is essentially a relic and it's very likely nothing like it will ever be made again. bummer.
popped in chrono cross and i'm tackling that now. chroonnoooooooo
popped in chrono cross and i'm tackling that now. chroonnoooooooo
Well this is kinda stupid. I still haven't brought
, but I've been doing some adventuring without him. I decided to check out the Black Omen not knowing what would be waiting for me at the end of the dungeon. I fought through the
no problem. I thought it would all the done with there but then she summons Lavos. Whaaaaaaat?!?! Is this one of the potential ending marks or something? I'm afraid to go any further to try and defeat Lavos at this point if it means I'm done with the game when I'm obviously not. Pretty stupid stuff right there, I just hope I can backtrack to the end of the dungeon to get the hell out of there.
Chrono back to life after he was killed by Lavos
Queen's first form, the Mammoth Machine, and then the Queen's second form
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mjc said:
Don't worry that's not the final Lavos fight. It's just the head and shell that was summoned when Crono died. You have to beat that shell no matter what..whether you go through the bucket or go to 1999 or go to the end of the Black Omen. You're not forced to go on to the final fight and can still do anything and everything in the game. There will be a time portal back to the end of time inside the shell. People do usually save the Black Omen for last though since they can just do Black Omen->Lavos->Lavos Core.