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Chrono Trigger DS: The |OT|
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baphometbones
Member
Stumpokapow said:
I've been debating whether or not to spoiler it myself. It's interesting you don't use Marle, I found as a healer she was unmatched and I remember always having her equipped with a pretty decent bow. I guess she has to be somewhat powerful though
since it's just her and Crono if you want the developer's ending
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
baphometbones said:
Well, to be fair, I normally marathon 3 or 4 playthroughs in a row, so by the end of it all I've **'d everyone
Dragona Akehi
Retired
I always end up using Ayla, Marle and Lucca.
Takeda Kenshi
blew Staal
Dragona Akehi said:
I like the way you think.
My favourite was Crono, Marle and Ayla when I first played the game more than a decade ago.
And then I replayed it a couple of years back and I used Crono, Frog and Magus. Unfortunately, I don't get any triple techs with this combination so it was kind of boring. Magus rocks though and it kind of sucks that he doesn't have any triple techs with Crono.
And then I replayed it a couple of years back and I used Crono, Frog and Magus. Unfortunately, I don't get any triple techs with this combination so it was kind of boring. Magus rocks though and it kind of sucks that he doesn't have any triple techs with Crono.
baphometbones
Member
Stumpokapow said:Well, to be fair, I normally marathon 3 or 4 playthroughs in a row, so by the end of it all I've **'d everyone
That certainly helps. I have yet to max level everyone, but now that I'll have a version I can easily carry around with me, I plan on going all out.
Dragona Akehi said:
That's my
"Crono Rescue Team"
Auron_Kale
Member
I would switch between either: Crono, Marle, & Frog or Crono, Marle, & Lucca. For fun I used Crono, Frog & Magus.
I'm kind of torn not using Crono during the final battle, but I'm willing to go try something different this time around.
I'm kind of torn not using Crono during the final battle, but I'm willing to go try something different this time around.
Zoe
Member
I always prefer the Crono, Marle, and Lucca team. I don't think I've ever played through the game with another team unless it was dictated by the plot.
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kiryogi said:
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So are they confirming that Magus is Guile? Or are they leaving that open for another game? I hope it's the latter because I always liked the crack theory that Guile was Magus' cat searching for him.
Takeda Kenshi
blew Staal
Party I used mainly when I played was Chrono, Robo, and Ayla.
Wait... so in the ending to this game
if so, fuck that... yeah I'm not even a chrono trigger fan, and that's a big deal. Fuck endings like that. Is this the only ending possibility or do they go the multi-route?
everyone dies or has amnesia? Is this one of those super mario 2 "it was all just a big dream!" style of endings?
Crono + Ayla + Robo for me.
Falcon Strike is the best dual-tech out there, and has little cost for the amount of damage it does. Robo has the best healing ability (I think it's called Heal Beam), and as long as Robo has enough +magic tabs, he'll heal for a hefty amount (2 tek points for 400 healing on everyone).
Falcon Strike is the best dual-tech out there, and has little cost for the amount of damage it does. Robo has the best healing ability (I think it's called Heal Beam), and as long as Robo has enough +magic tabs, he'll heal for a hefty amount (2 tek points for 400 healing on everyone).
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Dragona Akehi said:
It was retconned, in a way:
The fragmented dimensions where you face Dalton and others again with differing results than before appear to be from timelines where something went wrong: the heroes being killed, any number of temporal paradoxes, whatever. Fighting your way through them may be repairing the damage to the fabric of time and allowing these shattered dimensions to coalesce into one overarcing timeline. At the end of the road, you find what may be referred to as the "Future Magus".
When he talks to the party, he mentions that they're in the future where Lavos was defeated, but says, "Whether that is the future of the world from which you've come, I do not know. There are as many worlds as there are potentialities." This suggests that he is, in fact, merely the Magus from another timeline, perhaps the one made up of the assorted awful universe fragments you just fought through, and the one that created the Time/Dream Devourer. It is, essentially, the dimension where everyone is a failure. Where Crono can be defeated by mortal men, Lucca is too dumb to realise that fire shouldn't be able to kill her, and Magus is Cloud Strife.
This universe of failure, if you haven't guessed already, is where Chrono Cross takes place, a dimension (two dimensions, actually) that bears only a slight tangental relation to the timeline in which the events and ultimate outcome of Chrono Trigger transpired.
When he talks to the party, he mentions that they're in the future where Lavos was defeated, but says, "Whether that is the future of the world from which you've come, I do not know. There are as many worlds as there are potentialities." This suggests that he is, in fact, merely the Magus from another timeline, perhaps the one made up of the assorted awful universe fragments you just fought through, and the one that created the Time/Dream Devourer. It is, essentially, the dimension where everyone is a failure. Where Crono can be defeated by mortal men, Lucca is too dumb to realise that fire shouldn't be able to kill her, and Magus is Cloud Strife.
This universe of failure, if you haven't guessed already, is where Chrono Cross takes place, a dimension (two dimensions, actually) that bears only a slight tangental relation to the timeline in which the events and ultimate outcome of Chrono Trigger transpired.
It's bullshit and it's stupid, but it means that the versions of the characters we actually played don't get bitchslapped, so I suppose that's something.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
psy18 said:
If we take that the
Dalton who claims he's going to defeat Guardia is from the same universe as Magus Strife
Regulus Tera said:
Well
I think his target is more aimed at Crono & co instead of Guardia. So I doubt he'll be taking Guardia if Crono never existed and interfere with his plan.
Unless if he crossed from the Crono dimension and stuck in that Crono-less dimension and decided to do it anyway. I really doubt that though...
Does the "fall of guardia" still shown in the original ending or only after the new ending?
Unless if he crossed from the Crono dimension and stuck in that Crono-less dimension and decided to do it anyway. I really doubt that though...
Does the "fall of guardia" still shown in the original ending or only after the new ending?
Red Scarlet
Member
thetrin said:
We should play L4D sometime, I play with Pop on Arrival and he lives in southeast Asia or something.
thetrin said:
I've gone through with everyone, but I generally don't like Frog, Robo, and Magus too much. Their armor doesn't seem to have good magic defense, so the last boss winds up killing Frog and Robo with 1 attack; maybe there's some better armor to use instead though? And Magus just bores me with his weak overall attacks, lack of dual techs and I'm not really a fan of his few triples.
Dragona Akehi said:
That's who I've been going with on replays for a little while; but generally it's almost always been Ayla + __ + __; I like stealing tabs and Last Elixirs with her.
baphometbones said:
You can also get
the developer's ending with Crono by himself
thetrin said:
He has a couple triple techs, I think the Black Stone and Blue? Stone let him do triple techs with some characters. Don't really care for them though.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
psy18 said:
This should answer your question (it's after the original ending): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-HPHPiPCkc
I pretty much always use Crono, Frog, and Magus for endgame stuff. Frog's Heal is practically broken; it only needs 2 MP and heals the whole party for more and more as he levels up. Luminare and Dark Matter were more than powerful enough for me to care about not having any triple techs. Before you can use Magus, I substitute him with Ayla. I love using Falcon Strike on Giga Gaia and Volt Bite is awesome for the Reptite bosses.
PataHikari
Banned
Dragona Akehi said:
I told you they wouldn't
Why would they retcon away one of the best RPGs of the PS1 era anyways?
Red Scarlet said:
Not sure what armor I had on Robo, but at lvl 40-45ish, he never died from the final boss's attacks in 1 hit. I gave Robo all my +magic tabs, so his 2 tek point heal-all skill would heal the entire party for about 400. He's such an overpowered healer if you give him the +magic tabs.
Chrono + Ayla's Falcon hit also does like 2000 damage to the final boss (except one of the sides, which takes like 50 damage, but it seems to die fairly quickly anyways). At level 40-45, I didn't have a lick of trouble taking Lavos down.
Red Scarlet
Member
I think I'd give them that Nova Armor thing, whatever armor they had, one of the boss attacks would do over 1000 to them, so I started using Frog and Robo less and less due to it.
Mr.Wuggles
Neo Member
PataHikari said:
i thought everyone was complaining that they did, now they didn't retcon CC in CTDS? bah i'm confused
Mr.Wuggles said:
BEWARE NEW ENDING SPOILERS
Actually they solidified the bond/connection between CT and CC
Someone had asked:
"Is there anything anybody says that would explain why the Time Devourer is called the Dream Devourer in Trigger but Time Devourer in Cross?"
You learn why this is the case in CC actually
According to Lucca from Chrono Cross:
"Lucca: And yet, at the same time,
so far from the right answer!
The true beginning was during
the destruction of the ancient
Kingdom of Zeal!
As the palace collapsed around
her, Princess Schala was sucked
into a dimensional vortex along
with the Lavos Mammon Machine.
Schala and Lavos became unified
into one even more powerful
entity that would evolve into
the Devourer of Time.
Filled with the hatred and
sadness of Lavos, half of
Schala's mind became set on
destroying all of existence.
Yet at the same time, the
other half of her mind
desired to save the universe
and to be rescued herself.
As Schala fell through the
time gate in this condition,
she heard your crying
echoing through time...
That is when her story and
yours began to intertwine...
It is also when the past and
the future began to intersect,
and when the world became
divided into two..."
Here are better (readable) quality vids of the new ending
Beat the game once, and going to fight the new secret last boss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUxI04eQW2Q&fmt=18
Losing to new secret last boss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMAT9Rm5pv0&fmt=18
Defeating new secret last boss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvqM4V96_XE&fmt=18
Also in the new secret dungeons, you learn about Dalton's connection to CC, as was mentioned before, and you can get the "Dragon's Tear", an item from CC as well
I'm hoping with this new Chrono momentum, they might try to port/re-make CC too
Someone had asked:
"Is there anything anybody says that would explain why the Time Devourer is called the Dream Devourer in Trigger but Time Devourer in Cross?"
You learn why this is the case in CC actually
According to Lucca from Chrono Cross:
"Lucca: And yet, at the same time,
so far from the right answer!
The true beginning was during
the destruction of the ancient
Kingdom of Zeal!
As the palace collapsed around
her, Princess Schala was sucked
into a dimensional vortex along
with the Lavos Mammon Machine.
Schala and Lavos became unified
into one even more powerful
entity that would evolve into
the Devourer of Time.
Filled with the hatred and
sadness of Lavos, half of
Schala's mind became set on
destroying all of existence.
Yet at the same time, the
other half of her mind
desired to save the universe
and to be rescued herself.
As Schala fell through the
time gate in this condition,
she heard your crying
echoing through time...
That is when her story and
yours began to intertwine...
It is also when the past and
the future began to intersect,
and when the world became
divided into two..."
Here are better (readable) quality vids of the new ending
Beat the game once, and going to fight the new secret last boss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUxI04eQW2Q&fmt=18
Losing to new secret last boss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMAT9Rm5pv0&fmt=18
Defeating new secret last boss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvqM4V96_XE&fmt=18
Also in the new secret dungeons, you learn about Dalton's connection to CC, as was mentioned before, and you can get the "Dragon's Tear", an item from CC as well
I'm hoping with this new Chrono momentum, they might try to port/re-make CC too
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Abel said:BEWARE NEW ENDING SPOILERS
Also in the new secret dungeons, you learn about Dalton's connection to CC, as was mentioned before, and you can get the "Dragon's Tear", an item from CC as well
Spoilers, of course:
And one non-spoilery one added for good measure:
http://www.chronocompendium.com/images/wiki/8/88/Fffffiendlord.png
Abel said:I'm hoping with this new Chrono momentum, they might try to port/re-make CC too
Hopefully for DS.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Those little comics are hilarious. Where might I find the collection of them?
brandonh83
Banned
Regulus Tera said:
omg :lol :lol
baphometbones
Member
Dragona Akehi said:
Seconded. I only read the Fiend/Friendlord one but that was great.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Dragona Akehi said:
I found them in the Chrono Trigger DS entry of Chrono Compendium. Those are the only ones, sadly.
psy18 said:
She was talking about saving the world from Lavos' menace, not
Guardia's fall
Chrono Cross = still the universe of
failure
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Too awesome to not avatarise.
If you'd like to use it, please rehost.
If you'd like to use it, please rehost.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
teacupcopter
Banned
As an aussie I've never played this
any word on a release here?
any word on a release here?
FYI, apparently Game Crazy's have the game in-stock today, and my Gamestop is now saying tomorrow (I just got the call), and other people are saying they're being told tomorrow for Gamestop as well. Someone at Gamefaqs who already got his said apparently it comes with a poster of the cover inside the case
SailorDaravon said:FYI, apparently Game Crazy's have the game in-stock today, and my Gamestop is now saying tomorrow (I just got the call), and other people are saying they're being told tomorrow for Gamestop as well. Someone at Gamefaqs who already got his said apparently it comes with a poster of the cover inside the case
I just picked up my copy from Gamecrazy. Ill check the poster... but it did come with a soundtrack.
dark steve
Banned
because it's in my contract, I have to complain about the fact that there is no new secret final boss music.
(althguh that's certainly my favorite battle theme from CT)
(althguh that's certainly my favorite battle theme from CT)
*catches up on thread*
Hmmm. You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to continue taking all of Chrono Cross, and shlumping it under "alternate dimension bullshittery that never actually happened." I think I'll take this new Chrono Trigger ending and similarly banish it.
Yeah.
Hmmm. You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to continue taking all of Chrono Cross, and shlumping it under "alternate dimension bullshittery that never actually happened." I think I'll take this new Chrono Trigger ending and similarly banish it.
Yeah.
baphometbones
Member
Added a link to the 1Up review to the OP. I don't think anyone will be complaining about this one.
