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Chuck versus the NeoGAF - The Official Season 4 Thread - Mondays on NBC

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Cornballer

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Ratings:
MediaWeek said:
Over at NBC, the results remained bleak from 8-10 p.m. care of needs-to-retire Chuck (Viewers: #4, 5.48 million; A18-49: #4, 1.7/ 5) and sure to exit The Cape (Viewers: #4, 4.07 million; A18-49: #4, 1.2/ 3), which might have had a shot if it aired on Syfy. But older-skewing Harry’s Law from David E. Kelly perked up to 8.49 million viewers and a 1.7/ 5 in the demo at 10 p.m. While that still ranked third, it did build from the 9:30 p.m. portion of The Cape (2.3/ 4) by a significant 148 percent.
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TVbtN said:
On NBC, Chuck held at its series low 1.7 adults 18-49 rating, The Cape fell another tenth to just a 1.2 rating, and Harry’s Law was steady vs. last week at its series low 1.7 rating.
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Cornballer

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More discussion of ratings problems on NBC:
NY Magazine said:
Behind the Numbers

You know how the depth of the Great Recession didn't become clear until right around the same time George W. Bush left office? Well, now that Jeff Zucker has left NBC, we're beginning to see just how plucked up the Peacock is. Last week, without Sunday-night football to inflate its numbers, NBC averaged just 5.7 million viewers and a 1.6 among viewers under 50. That's less than half the younger viewership of ratings leaders CBS and Fox, and well below even troubled third-place network ABC. How bad were things at NBC last week? In terms of overall viewership, NBC didn't have a single show in Nielsen's top twenty; in fact, the network's No. 1 show for the week was David E. Kelley's Harry's Law, which drew a little more than 9.2 million viewers. This, by the way, is a show that NBC had so little faith in, it had originally planned to air just six of its thirteen filmed episodes this season (before finally realizing it had nothing else in its cupboard). Now NBC is so wild about Harry that it aired the show a total of four times last week (a Monday original and repeats on Saturday and Sunday). Things weren't much better for NBC last week among adults 18 to 49: The network had just one show in the top twenty (The Office) and a mere five in the top 40 (The Biggest Loser, Law & Order: SVU, Parks and Recreation, 30 Rock).
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Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
NBC needs to accept the fact that they will never, EVER get the amount of viewers that CBS, ABC and Fox get. Ever.

Just renew Chuck for a fifth season already, you stupid fucks. Chuck's ratings are never going to get better or worse and you have no other shows left. NBC needs to get over the fact that Seinfeld is dead and gone and their glory days are dead, too.
 
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Cornballer

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A couple behind the scenes photos from yesterday's episode:

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RevoDS

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Solo said:
But they used to trounce those networks.
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And they probably will again at some point, but by the time that happens the bar will be significantly lower for broadcast networks. (as they've been declining for a few decades now...)
 
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Sirpopopop

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If NBC wants to become a ratings powerhouse again, it needs to avoid shows like Community, and start pumping shows like Outsourced.

It's really that simple.

Americans like shows that:

A. Make them look better vis a vis other people.
B. Mock what can be considered the "other."
C. If it does not do B: Then, cool whiz bang explosions.
D. Easy to get into.
E. Simple Character Tropes that don't change.

As much as I like a show like Community, that kind of show is absolutely Ratings AIDS for any network that wants to make money. (Yes, I know it's better than Chuck right now. Yes, I know a show like Outsourced is doing badly in its new time slot, but, that time slot is death.)
 
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NotTheGuyYouKill

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Sirpopopop said:
If NBC wants to become a ratings powerhouse again, it needs to avoid shows like Community, and start pumping shows like Outsourced.

It's really that simple.

Americans like shows that:

A. Make them look better vis a vis other people.
B. Mock what can be considered the "other."
C. If it does not do B: Then, cool whiz bang explosions.
D. Easy to get into.
E. Simple Character Tropes that don't change.

As much as I like a show like Community, that kind of show is absolutely Ratings AIDS for any network that wants to make money. (Yes, I know it's better than Chuck right now.)
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Sir... don't you ever suggest that again. On penalty of torture.
 
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Oozer3993

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Stallion Free said:
Watching last nights episode and jesus christ Yvonne is hot.
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I've been rewatching Season 3 the past week or so and I find myself muttering this several times an episode. She is just flat out gorgeous.

As a side note, Season 3 was way better than I remember it being, though that might be because the Chuck and Sarah (and Shaw) dynamic wasn't dragged out over two months.

I just want NBC to give Fedak and Schwartz enough heads up that they can write a proper series finale. Arrested Development may have had to speed up it's finale, but at least it had one. Veronica Mars didn't so much end as it was cut off. I realized last night that we might end up with as many as 6 different episodes written as series finales (Season 2 finale, Season 3 Episode 13, Season 3 finale, Season 4 episode 13, Season 4 finale, Season 5 finale).
 
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RevoDS

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Oozer3993 said:
I've been rewatching Season 3 the past week or so and I find myself muttering this several times an episode. She is just flat out gorgeous.

As a side note, Season 3 was way better than I remember it being, though that might be because the Chuck and Sarah (and Shaw) dynamic wasn't dragged out over two months.

I just want NBC to give Fedak and Schwartz enough heads up that they can write a proper series finale. Arrested Development may have had to speed up it's finale, but at least it had one. Veronica Mars didn't so much end as it was cut off. I realized last night that we might end up with as many as 6 different episodes written as series finales (Season 2 finale, Season 3 Episode 13, Season 3 finale, Season 4 episode 13, Season 4 finale, Season 5 finale).
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Agree overall, but disagree about the Season 2 finale. Chuck vs. the Ring would have been the single most frustrating series finale in history had it been cancelled back then. That ending, that cliffhanger...no way that was planned as a series finale (even though it could have been one)
 
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PhoncipleBone

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Stallion Free said:
Watching last nights episode and jesus christ Yvonne is hot.
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Welcome to the club. I was out last night, so I didn't get to announce Yvonne Night on here. I am so sorry. Let me rectify that:
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And I am glad to see more focus on Sarah in the story this week. It is a nice change of pace, and it gives Yvonne a chance to branch out. The scene of her hungover was very funny.

I also loved Carina torturing Morgan throughout the episode. Morgan has proven this entire season, and the last half of season 3, that he is the MVP of the show. I don't think he could carry a show or complete episode on his own, but his mere presence elevates the performances of everyone else around and brings out the comedy.

Best line of the night belonged to Casey though: "Yeah, and we're going to go hunt unicorns."
 
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Captain Blood

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I have had to work late this week but caught the episode tonight on hulu. I really enjoyed it. It was another good example of Chuck doing what it does best, fun episodes that don't take themselves to seriously.
 
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whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
For what it's worth, the girl that plays Corina has a pretty awesome sex scene in the movie The Mechanic.

Took me til it was half way thru before I realized it was her, haha.
 
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Medalion

Banned
This episode was pretty good, once again, these tag episodes when the main storyline finish are great. Starting to like Carina more... and I still stand behind my opinion about Morgan's girlfriend... she is so boring, not a good actress... I couldn't care less about their relationship. But Morgan is so cool being honorable like dat.

The Cat/Angels thing was a bit cliche but still fun.

Didn't get to see anybody from the BuyMore crew? Wut
 
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megashock5

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Oozer3993 said:
As a side note, Season 3 was way better than I remember it being, though that might be because the Chuck and Sarah (and Shaw) dynamic wasn't dragged out over two months.
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I noticed this during my Season 3 rewatch as well. Didn't seem as bad when watching an episode or two per night vs. one a week.
 
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Cornballer

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A few spoilers:
TVLine said:
Question: Chuck fanatic here. Got any more details about Robin Givens’ new boss lady character? —Patti
Ausiello: NCS agent Jane Bentley “is there to offer Casey an opportunity to set up a new team, a new operation,” explains Givens, who debuts on the NBC comedy next week. “It’s an offer that’s somewhat enticing and would shake things up… He wants to keep her at arm’s length, but she’s coming to him at a time when it’s hard for him to just dismiss what she has to offer.”
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TVGuide said:
Any new missions coming up on Chuck? — Frankie
NATALIE: Much to the chagrin of Chuck and Sarah, Casey is going to be enticed away from Team Intersect by Bentley (Robin Givens), General Beckman’s frenemy. “She presents him with things he knows are true: This has been your longest assignment; your team doesn’t need you anymore,” Givens tells us. “You were the best sharpshooter and now you’re bartending; you’re doing paperwork. So she presents him with an offer that he can’t say no to.” Two of his new team members include past Gretas Stacy Keibler and Isaiah Mustafa, whose real names will be revealed.
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Kung Fu Jedi

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Just caught up on all the episodes I missed while away to South Africa. Some great stuff in there, especially the episode with taking down and Vulkoff. That was probably the best episode of the year for me. The two following episodes have been fun and light hearted, but mostly one-offs. I continue to enjoy Morgan's increased role this season as well. Great stuff.
 
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Solo

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Pretty good episode. Something of an inevitable downfall after last week's greatness, but still highly entertaining outside of Chuck and Sarah being annoying again. Its unreal how they can be written so great one week and so crappy the next. I love Carina. I wish she were a regular. I could watch her torture Morgan forever.

- I know it was supposed to be a fun dream sequence and all, but the narration to open the episode felt completely out of place for the series
- Morgan: "John, she (Carina) desire my....physical person" LOL
- nice to see the Intersect serve four purposes in one episode - and none of them kung fu - for once!
- predictable mole or most predictable mole ever?
- nice scene with the girls after the mole was found - Sarah has had so few "girl" moments that they always stand out
- really loved the Alex/Morgan scene at the end
 
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mm04

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There's something about Carina that makes me find her incredibly hot. She's not even terribly attractive, but hot damn she grabs my attention.
 
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Medalion

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So I wasn't imagining things, that song during the party reminded me of The Cure a lot or some other 80's post punk new wave band of the era.
 
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bathala

Banned
just wen Sara said about the traitor, u already knew its the happy go lucky gal, and the writers didn't even made a swerve.

I would have been surprise if it was Sara's left arm all along.
 
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Wads

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Cornballer said:
A few more behind-the-scenes pics from the Cat Squad.

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Where do I sign up for the "Bring Zondra back" fan campaign?
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MMMMMM, thankfully, she will at least have to be back to be a bride's maid. :) I wouldn't mind so much if she because a regular too. Doubt that will happen, but one can dream!
 
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Cornballer

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- TVbytheNumbers with some guesswork on when NBC will announce a decision on Chuck:
We Will Learn Chuck's Fate by May 16, 2011, But Probably Not Before

NBC is kicking off the week of broadcast network “upfront’ meetings on May 16, 2011. The upfront meetings are where the networks announce their fall schedules and pitch to advertising buyers to get as much advertising money “up front” as they can.

Barring a dramatic shift in the ratings, my guess is we won’t know Chuck’s (or any other NBC bubble show’s) fate before the fall schedule is announced on May 16.
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CzarTim

Member
Hobbun said:
Damn, three months...that's way too long.

Getting so tired of liking shows that are always on the bubble.
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Agreed. I almost wish I was an idiot so I could enjoy all the popular shows.
 
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Wads

Banned
I just can't imagine them canceling their one show that has been somewhat solid and consistent when they could put out a Season 5 13/20 episode season that could wrap it up, satisfy the rabid fans, and put them close to or above 100. If they had some other solid hits other than the comedy block, I would be concerned, but after escaping death so many times and NBC's situation being at an all time worst... I just can't see it getting canceled.
 
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Cornballer

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Wads said:
I just can't imagine them canceling their one show that has been somewhat solid and consistent when they could put out a Season 5 13/20 episode season that could wrap it up, satisfy the rabid fans, and put them close to or above 100. If they had some other solid hits other than the comedy block, I would be concerned, but after escaping death so many times and NBC's situation being at an all time worst... I just can't see it getting canceled.
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The comedy block matched an all-time low last night. NBC is a train wreck at the moment. It's just tough to say how the new management is going to deal with all of their problems and how that's going to play out for Chuck.
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NBC will decide to renew or not by their upfront? What a bold prediction TVBTN.
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That sort of cutting edge reporting is why I keep on going back to their site! :p

Is there a new episode summary up today?
 
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Seth C

Member
After 4 seasons, Chuck is at the very least a marketable property. People who don't watch know what is it. The same can't be said for Outsourced or well, most of NBC's lineup.
 
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Screaming_Gremlin

My QB is a Dick and my coach is a Nutt
Cornballer said:
Is there a new episode summary up today?
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I don't think so. There isn't a new episode on 3/7 if I remember. So we shouldn't get a new summary until next week.

Cornballer said:
That sort of cutting edge reporting is why I keep on going back to their site! :p
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Reminds me of the old PA comic.

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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Chuck is playing in the Celebrity All Star Game right now. He hasn't checked in yet. Hoping for lolz.
 
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