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Civilization 7 Opens To Mostly Negative Reviews As Players Call It An "Unfinished Mess"
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Pretty sure it took 2 expansions for Civ 4 to get really good. IMO, best Civ still.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
It’s not messed up. This is the defecto operating procedure for these types of big budget 4x games.
Whatever is missing will be added into DLC for $39.99 each.
When Stellaris launched it was similar; a skeleton of what it is now hundreds of dollars later.
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awwr999999
Member
Allowing the average person to determine anything's value is easily modern society's biggest mistake.
I'm not a civilization fan but crowd sourced ratings are a massive problem and the value of art shouldn't be decided by ordinary people.
duck_sauce
Member
Life has structure and is bearable when you know who the enemy is.
MMaRsu
Member
Why bro
amigastar
Member
Lagspike_exe
Member
How's the PS5 version? Also interesting in how well it plays on the Pro.
MMaRsu
Member
If its unfinished on PC I cant imagine the PS5 version is better. Dont reward mediocrity.
Lagspike_exe
Member
Unfortunately, I pre-ordered it already. Pretty disappointing launch.
MMaRsu
Member
I assume pre-orders arent final and you can just get a refund?
If your in the EU I think it's not legal to not offer a refund
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Yeah, it's a dud alright. I've refunded it and I don't think that addons or patches will help. Civ VII is faced with severe direction and identity crisis.
My main gripe is not even the cheap and messy UI or vastly outrdated visuals and mobile-level production values. I don't dig the whole leadership/nations reshuffle and tons of changes for the sake of changes. Just make Civ V with modern production values and stop reinventing the wheel making it more square after every iteration. Just look at Crusader Kings 3, that's how you refresh your 4x game without fumbling the basics.
My main gripe is not even the cheap and messy UI or vastly outrdated visuals and mobile-level production values. I don't dig the whole leadership/nations reshuffle and tons of changes for the sake of changes. Just make Civ V with modern production values and stop reinventing the wheel making it more square after every iteration. Just look at Crusader Kings 3, that's how you refresh your 4x game without fumbling the basics.
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Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
This is a proper fuck up eh.
The civ transition goes against the core game of taking one civ from Stone Age to victory.
I can see what they propose working using conditions like if you settle in another continent before era transition you can swap into a new civ, kind of goals and create tracks that way. But barebones? Nah.
The civ transition goes against the core game of taking one civ from Stone Age to victory.
I can see what they propose working using conditions like if you settle in another continent before era transition you can swap into a new civ, kind of goals and create tracks that way. But barebones? Nah.
MrTroubleMaker
Gold Member
to bad 
Branded
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DownLikeBCPowder
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I really like III and V. Not sure what the best is, even between these they are different and scratch different itches for me.
Hudo
Gold Member
If you strictly mean Civ games then Civ 4, imho.
If you mean 4X in general, I'd say Alpha Centauri, Old World or Emperor of the Fading Suns.
Maybe Stellaris as well but I really dislike Paradox' business model.
Facism
Member
bu bu the value of art
Facism
Member
Humankind is free on Epic store right now, too!
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Yep, might as well wait a year or probably two for the game to get better.
It was the same with pretty much every Paradox game in last 10 years.
MSduderino
Member
Is it good (and complete)? I just grabbed it for FREE off the EGS here:
Come grab it for FREE guys since Civ7 is unfinished.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Poor Sid's probably like "Take my name off that shit" at this point.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Didn’t Paradox admit at some point base game + 20 DLC is their business model so don’t count on the new releases to be feature complete?
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Eh, not sure. I mean they become really huge games so I can’t see a developer working on next release for 10 years.
But PDX pushes this shit too much. So I just wait a year or more. Hell, Vicky 3 is just now interesting and fun to play finally after 2+ years.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Has anyone tried Old World? That one seemed promising.
sendit
Member
Knowing the enemy brings structure, but in defining the enemy, you risk becoming the architect of a prison where the walls are made of certainty, and freedom is merely the illusion of bearable confinement.
midasmulligan
Member
So the big amazing innovation is that ben Franklin can rule Rome? Lol
diffusionx
Gold Member
It's Old World. By far. Everyone who likes Civ needs to play it.
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vpance
Member
Fun for a playthrough or 2 but it's a very flawed game if you choose to look below the surface of depth
Good but can feel tedious with the amount of tiny bonuses and stats choices. Late game gets bogged down by 1UPT and a large number units to juggle if you choose to go to war. But it's very customizable in game options so you can tinker a lot of stuff to your liking.
kapshin
Member
I heard that, I bought the last Civ for PC and it was a bit overwhelming for me so maybe this will be a way to ease me into it.