UnemployedVillain
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I hope you're not one of those "How can you be an expert on Christianity when you're Muslim? How do PhDs work??" types
CNN fires Reza Aslan after he tweeted Trump is a piece of shit.
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I hope you're not one of those "How can you be an expert on Christianity when you're Muslim? How do PhDs work??" types
Nice try to "guilty by association". There are several patheos articles calling out Reza Aslan. And they're not racist or islamophobic. Sure, racists hate him, but I as a former muslim also dislike him. Then again, it's unsurprising you'd rush to his defense.
That being said, Reza isn't in the wrong here. What he did was unprofessional but he isn't wrong. CNN were way too hasty to fire him.
StrongArmSteady
Member
But he does it professionally so its ok
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
He's not wrong.
I dislike Reza Asian though. He's so ideologically dedicated to whitewashing all religions to be equally benign and peaceful that he does dumb shit like claim atheist critics are bigots or defending Scientology as one of tomorrow's great faiths.
I did like his books on Islam and Jesus.
I dislike Reza Asian though. He's so ideologically dedicated to whitewashing all religions to be equally benign and peaceful that he does dumb shit like claim atheist critics are bigots or defending Scientology as one of tomorrow's great faiths.
I did like his books on Islam and Jesus.
celljean89
Neo Member
Riposte
Member
Didn't he eat a piece of a human brain? Not sure cannibals have much honor.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
Member
His response was honestly great. Accepted responsibility, but didn't back down.
RustyNails
Member
And its unsurprising you hate anyone who doesn't immediately say Islam is bad or evil.
I don't hate Aslan. I think he has good things to say, but also throws the baby out with the bathwater to apologize for the negative aspects of the religion. But either way his views on religion shouldn't derail the thread. He was wronged here and CNN fucked up.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This post looks bad.
There are plenty of reasons to dislike Aslan. Dude has an agenda.
UberTag
Member
Apparently, one can't be "an unbiased news outlet" and speak the truth at the same time any more.
I wonder why that is... hmmm...
FunkyMunkey
Banned
firing someone for saying this, while jeffrey shitstain lord of shit still works for them, is some
lord is much more of a danger to society
lord is much more of a danger to society
There are not that many people worse than Trump. He certainly isn't.
UberTag
Member
Jeffrey is doing and saying exactly what CNN wants him to do and say.firing someone for saying this, while jeffrey shitstain lord of shit still works for them, is some
lord is much more of a danger to society
If he wasn't, he would be fired and replaced with a Jeffrey Lord-replacement.
Your issue is with CNN. It isn't with Lord. His literal job description is to fill the exact role he is filling.
Unprofessionalism makes you leader of the free world so
The Illiterati
Member
Isn't that basically what he said?
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
That's exactly what his statement is saying. "I need to honour my voice" = "I still think Trump is a piece of shit"
Read it again and you'll see that Reza hasn't apologised for what he said.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
He's completely wrong. Trump is not a piece of shit. He is 100% a complete shit.
Love this
This is incredibly weak, even for you Rusty.
No I know, what I mean is I wish they didn't have to sugar coat it in the nice adult way of saying it and just kept it with "he's a piece of shit"
Impeccable
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Honestly, no, this was most likely due to a rallying cry to get him fired from people on that "side". To strike a blow at fake news. There was, I believe, a real tweet from Reza calling for actual rape of a congressman(?) being attached to the effort to get him fired.
I didn't really think much of it until I saw this post.
In this thread posters struggle to differentiate between the expectations placed on professional journalists and those placed on Twitter randos.
wait, what
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Ah ok. Only people who can get away with that are professional trolls or those who are old/rich enough to not give a fuck about anything.
Rest of us still have to pretend to be professional
This is a dangerous line of attack.
RPGCrazied
Member
Yet still employs people like Jeffery Lord and Jason Miller. Okay, makes sense. /s
This is stupid, apologist for Islam? Hes not apologising for your interpretation. Hes an expert and academic, a liberal one respected by Moderate Muslims, we need more like him.
Im really like Aslans book regarding cosmic war, so this is a shame, but Im sure hell be back on a mainstream network soon.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
He did an apologetic episode about Scientology on his show Believer. The prominent critic of Scientology, Tony Ortega wrote about it here. It was not received well in Scientology critic circles:
http://tonyortega.org/2017/03/27/re...e-scientology-lived-down-to-all-expectations/
It's interesting that people in the anti-Scientology sphere independently came up with the word "dishonest" to describe Aslan's work, the exact word that Sam Harris also came to use to describe him.
You can watch it for yourself. He's basically that guy who'd claim Scientology is the same as all religions (as if that somehow reflects good on religion!) https://youtu.be/7iLmsls-CGA
In my opinion, Aslan has such an ideological dedication to the inherent equality, benignity and splendor of all religions that he makes weird enemies of people who actually do the work to criticize them on their individual points.
cloudburst
Banned
I agree. He does present a whitewashed version of Islam, and this is coming from someone who took a course of his.
Polioliolio
Member
Agreed, but if the only people who care about being professional are the good guys, the loudest voices left are only republicans, people without shame or humility.
Shadow Puppetry
Member
Bummer, telling it like it is gets ya fired.
cloudburst
Banned
This is what your "argument" sounds like:
Do you drink water? I hope not.
You know who else drank water?
Hitler, Stalin, and even Lucifer himself. Great company you got.
inorganicrosiel
Neo Member
Does Santorum still appear on CNN?
If so, the network had a much better target than Reza to dump.
If so, the network had a much better target than Reza to dump.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I actually agree that commentators shouldn't express themselves like this. I think professional people should conduct themselves respectfully and with dignity in public.
But it seems totally untenable to simultaneously argue that the way Trump speaks about others is acceptable and that the way others speak about Trump is unacceptable.
And enforcing it against a guy who gets paid to talk on CNN and not against a guy who gets paid to use the nuclear codes seems arbitrary and capricious.
But it seems totally untenable to simultaneously argue that the way Trump speaks about others is acceptable and that the way others speak about Trump is unacceptable.
And enforcing it against a guy who gets paid to talk on CNN and not against a guy who gets paid to use the nuclear codes seems arbitrary and capricious.
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