USC has recruited at a fairly high level but still has no depth because of scholarship limitations. I would think that UF would be more attractive than USC at the moment.
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College Football 2013 |Week 4| #KARMA
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They both have a much greater tradition than Florida. USC has some problems, but they will not have a problem filling that position. Not sure what all the former Carroll proteges are up to, maybe they'll get one of them. Although, the latest one hasn't worked out so well, so I don't know.
I would say right now Tejas>UF>USC. Sanctions will probably keep people away another year or two. I'd ride it out with Tosh.0 another year before going all in on a new coach.
Of course you could argue that no one wants to follow Mack Brown and that UF is cutting the cord to quick after a BCS appearance so who knows.
Of course you could argue that no one wants to follow Mack Brown and that UF is cutting the cord to quick after a BCS appearance so who knows.
I would rank them:
1) USC - Recruits itself, and the new coach would have a built-in excuse for a year or two.
2) UF - First of all, Muschamp isn't getting fired. Second, the AD seems to provide excellent support. This place also recruits itself.
3) Texas - Only reason they aren't first is that I think boosters and politics would saddle (HAR!) the next HC with a GRRM-sized book of alternate job requirements that competent coaches wouldn't agree to accept. This is why Mack is still there... he gives access of the program to all the right people. At Alabama, Saban closed practices and threw everyone out with the blessing of the right people. We desperately needed it. Texas still needs to go through that entire ordeal if they want permanent improvment and the appropriate culture /attitude change.
1) USC - Recruits itself, and the new coach would have a built-in excuse for a year or two.
2) UF - First of all, Muschamp isn't getting fired. Second, the AD seems to provide excellent support. This place also recruits itself.
3) Texas - Only reason they aren't first is that I think boosters and politics would saddle (HAR!) the next HC with a GRRM-sized book of alternate job requirements that competent coaches wouldn't agree to accept. This is why Mack is still there... he gives access of the program to all the right people. At Alabama, Saban closed practices and threw everyone out with the blessing of the right people. We desperately needed it. Texas still needs to go through that entire ordeal if they want permanent improvment and the appropriate culture /attitude change.
perfectchaos007
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I know it's extremely unlikely, but I hope Mack hints at retirement during today's presser.
perfectchaos007
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The Akron Bowden would actually be an upgrade from Mack in terms of coaching. Even Gloomfire's hero Larry Coker would be an upgrade, but unfortunately UTSA doesn't have a CAP program for coaches.
bucknuticus
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I hear Petrino is looking for an upgrade.
bucknuticus
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Glad to see TPeezy has become humble and matured since he made it to the NFL.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...arting-job-in-nfl-pryor-doesnt-look-back.html
http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...arting-job-in-nfl-pryor-doesnt-look-back.html
Yeah, think of all the good he did for the program.
Haven't seen Florida play this year, not much. I know that Driskell isn't good, and from memory, I'm not sure I like any of their RB's or WR's. How good is their OLine? Possible that their weak up front? If so, it'd screw everything else up (see Alabama vs VT)
GoldenEye 007
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South Carolina game is set for 12 noon in two weeks.
Thanks for nothing, ESPN.
Fuckers.
Thanks for nothing, ESPN.
Fuckers.
devildog820
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For a while, we had a true freshman at the top of the depth chart at WR. We only have one really good RB, as Mack Brown seems to never find the right side to run to and Kelvin Taylor has fumbleitis.
OLine is way better than last year. But you could step over that bar, with how low it was.
Edit: I will say the WRs are running better routes and are generally more open this year (thanks Joker). But Driskel...
Boooooooooo.
perfectchaos007
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Meanwhile K-State v. Texas is primetime on ABC this week. Texas is 1-2, and K-State lost to an FCS team. I'm guessing the intrigue is the Mack Brown swan song narrative?
GoldenEye 007
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You're telling me. Not only will I not be able to go to the game, I won't even be able to watch it at all either.
My theory is that ESPN is trying to embarrass Texas to the point that they'll view LHN as a PR liability and allow them to form a Big 12 network.
Game was set in stone before season started. K-state was supposed to be undefeated and so was Texas..
Anyways, I don't know why anyone is picking Kansas State. Their QB issues will be the death of them, oh and the absolutely horrible defense. It's worse than Texas's defense. I expect Ash to be back and Texas to finally beat Kansas State in something. *claps* only took a decade.
I don't think you can go from not being on TV ever to complaining about kickoff times. Seems ungrateful and wrong.
OL and WR's are okay, not great. RB's are mediocre to poor, IMO. Driskel is the main liability, every ball he throws looks like it's been tipped at the line. He makes Tebow look like a good passer. He really has no upsides, he's not a terribly great runner. He's a bad passer. He makes bad decisions. If Muschamp has another QB that he was redshirting but thinks will be the next guy, I think he should put him in and take the lumps now. Investing further in Driskel is unwise.
UGA/LSU game is CBS 3:30 game of the week in two weeks. We'll see if Gameday will be there, nothing else that day that's interesting.
GoldenEye 007
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We have been on TV plenty of times under CUSA over the years. Both regional and national. And for everything ESPN has done with our conference and realignment, yeah, they can go fuck right off.
I usually don't mind noon games. It was just this week I have an early conflict to the point noon means I can't even watch the game.
He is a junior. His completion percentage for the year thus far is a lot higher than I thought it would be based on what I've seen him do. I guess part of it is that he does well with drives and then makes horrible decisions or a horribly thrown ball and gives up interceptions at really bad times. One could say that that happens when you're playing a good defense, which is fair the majority of the time. Happened to JFF this weekend.
But the Florida/Miami game was not a scenario of Miami being a very good team. It's that Driskel repeatedly shot his own team in the foot with boneheaded plays/passes. It's hard to say that a team "gave" a game away, but he gave that game away. 2 red zone interceptions and a fumble. It wasn't like Miami was playing well either. It was a game full of derptitude. Miami finished with 212 total yards, and Florida with 413 yards.
I think the above is where I say the cheesy TV commentator catchphrase, "Hey guys, I think that the team with the least turnovers is going to win this game." Florida ended up with 5 and Miami with 1.
timetokill
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I think moving to 8 teams is inevitable, especially once they see the TV revenue the 4 team playoff pulls in. I'm hoping it doesn't expand past that though. Even 10-12 would be pushing it.
Meanwhile, we still don't know how this committee is going to work, how transparent it will or won't be, etc. Going to be very interesting to see how they handle the huge potential for conflicts of interest and so on. It'll be a travesty if it's basically ESPN picking the top four teams based on how they'll impact their revenue projections.
bucknuticus
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I wish I could be consistently terrible at my job and still get to keep it.
Some of the shit that people were saying about her last week was really fucked up. There was a screenshot that someone took of what people had said to her on Twitter, and it was way across the line.
Sirpopopop
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Fresno is going to crush Boise.
They are legit.
They are legit.
If you're going to dish it out you should probable be prepared to take it. Given her occupational history though, I'm sure she is totally used to taking it.
Zing! But really, I think that some of the stuff that people have said to her has been way over the line.
Nice JamesSinclair impression.
Nova is probable.
F.A.M.I.L.Y(.) Is back for Arkansas.
Fire Flood.
That's the problem with playoffs. We could go to a sixteen team playoff because the 17th team that gets left out has far less room to complain than the 9th team. Or a thirty-two team playoff because that 33rd team that gets left out has far less room to complain than the 17th. You can argue that this sort of extremism is ridiculous, but look at the basketball playoffs. 64 teams weren't even enough.
Looking back over the years of the BCS, have there been too many instances where people honestly felt that there were five or more schools worthy of being in the talk? I think we had this discussion before where we looked at the BCS standings and I think it was pretty obvious that most years that have only been 3 or 4 teams that had any real argument that they should have been in the title game.
Edit: I have long been a proponent of the +1 system, and I'm glad that we're finally getting essentially that. I don't like the idea of a selection committee. I'm not sure what was wrong with using the BCS system but expanding it to take the top 4 teams.
Agree with all of this actually. I wish that they'd do away with the committee and just pick an aggregate of the top 4 or whatever the BCS is doing. But just take the top 4. But I'm assuming their reasoning behind this is that we have to make sure that Notre Dame gets preferential treatment for not being in a conference.
perfectchaos007
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Back in 2009 Ball St. finished their season 12-0 yet they weren't even ranked in the top 10. I know their SOS sucked, but a team like that definitely deserves a shot. An 8 team playoff wouldn't have gotten them in, but a 16 playoff would. Seems like most current players and coaches agree, from straw polls I've seen, a 16 team playoff is ideal.
jamesinclair
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Its cute to see your panties all in a bunch now that Fresno is making their way up the rankings and Rutgers will be joining them soon
I like 8 over 4 because it still makes the regular season games important enough, but leaves enough room to let a little guy in or a team that has gotten better as the season went on. It also allows for probably two regional teams from everywhere to get a little bit more attention and more than doubles the number of games in the playoffs which is good for revenue. Also gives those tier 2 and 3 schools a better shot. A 1 loss Texas Tech or Okie St can get punished pretty hard in the polls where a 1 loss Texas, Bama or ND is going to be in the top 4-5 at the end of the season.
IIdeally I like 12. Byes for the top 4 teams means finishing at the top is a massive advantage. Use NHL re-seeding rules to protect the top teams as well to further enforce regular season importance. That last one most people hate, so I can take or leave it.
Once you get into teams on outside of the top 12 you are normally looking at 3+ loss teams with some really iffy credentials. I don't think any Texas fans last year would have tried to argue for a 3 loss texas getting into a championship tournament.
That said, when I'm 60 I fully expect a 128 team tournament and for January to be all college football playoffs all the time.
ConfusingJazz
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Look, Western Central South Dakota State beat Swarthmore in a triple OT thriller, and deserve that play in game in October.
Are you really going to deny those kids their shot at glory to let in the 34th best team in the SEC SEC SEC.
Note: The tournament by rule will be represented by 1/4th SEC SEC SEC teams. In this future the SEC SEC SEC will be it's own country primarily consisting of former confederate states and Utah/Wyoming.
Fresno State may very well end up ranked, but only by virtue of the fact that they play absolutely nobody with a pulse beyond Rutgers and maaaybe Boise:
As for this:
Well:
They've got quite a climb ahead of them.
Wow this is an awful assessment. Driskel is ALL upside. It's the reason he was the #1 QB recruit in 2011 and won the Elite 11 despite all of his flaws.
Garret Gilbert.
I don't see why a 12-0 Ball State team deserves a shot, at all. You said yourself, their SOS sucked. 4, maybe 8 playoff teams would make our system better than what it is, while not becoming the joke that are the NBA playoffs.
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Please tell me this is a joke post.
I agree. I think he'll be one of the first QBs off the board in the NFL draft because he's got so much untapped potential. It's like his body is Fort Knox, but instead of gold he's hoarding nothing but pure, unvarnished potential.
ConfusingJazz
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No. That's NCAA tourney level fuck the regular season talk.
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