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COMICS! |OT| April 2014. Truly, there is no shame in continuing to read awful comics.
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He's never wrong
ViewtifulJC
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KoruptData
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Im always the quiet one huh? I have it. I didn't spoil it.
Inhumans was bad. He wronged us. This feels like that time bruce Waynes parents died.
Okay so here's some thoughts I figured I'd throw around in here instead of the madness that is the Arrow thread.
Recently, I've been re-watching Smallville and am finally nearing the final seasons and what I've noticed is that Justin Hartley is a better Oliver Queen than Stephen Ammell.
Now, don't get me wrong, I think the Arrow actor makes a better "Green Arrow" but he falls a little flat on the Ollie side of things. He just doesn't have the charm and playful behavior I've always associated with Oliver.
Yes, the outfits were super cheesy on Smallville, and I know it gets a ton of mixed feelings around these parts, but watching Arrow right after Smallville made me think about the blatant difference between the two Green Arrows.
EDIT: Also, I want to clarify that in no way do I think Arrow is a bad show. In fact, I think it's great stuff, CW has really come a long way.
Recently, I've been re-watching Smallville and am finally nearing the final seasons and what I've noticed is that Justin Hartley is a better Oliver Queen than Stephen Ammell.
Now, don't get me wrong, I think the Arrow actor makes a better "Green Arrow" but he falls a little flat on the Ollie side of things. He just doesn't have the charm and playful behavior I've always associated with Oliver.
Yes, the outfits were super cheesy on Smallville, and I know it gets a ton of mixed feelings around these parts, but watching Arrow right after Smallville made me think about the blatant difference between the two Green Arrows.
EDIT: Also, I want to clarify that in no way do I think Arrow is a bad show. In fact, I think it's great stuff, CW has really come a long way.
Lord Scrambles
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Whatsup ComicGAF long time comic nerd here, thought I'd introduce myself 'round these parts. There's not much to say other than I'm mostly a DC guy, although I occasionally read Marvel stuff. Sadly my non-existent money has been preventing me from keeping up lately. Whats new?
I find its the opposite, I love his Ollie but find alot of the Arrow stuff to be lacking. I find Ollie to be charming.
Welcome and what are your opinions on Harley Quinn, Catwoman and Ann Nocenti.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Detective Comics 30 is solid.
On the art side, the only qualm I have is that there are a bunch of children in it that are ostensibly meant to be Chinese, or are at least spoken to in Chinese by everybody, and they're 100 percent just white kids. Whatever, not a big deal, Manapul is fucking dope.
Story is a solid start with new characters, connections made directly Damian's death and Zero Year, and a new drug/villain. My problem with Boochbag, however, has never been his technical capacity for writing, because dude understands how to construct sentences just fine, but it's the lack of characterizations that come from him. Everybody comes off as flat for some reason. So, yes, different characters spoke using different dialects, whether that be the more street dialect used by the goons, or the biker bravado cheesy action movie dialect used by the bikers, or Alfred's more proper dialect...the word usage is different and appropriate but fuck, man, these people saying these words just do not feel like they are fully formed characters (totally the first issue in the arc, so there's time to put in work on that end).
I'm being hard on the dude, but that's because his Flash started the exact same way--all the promise in the world with that magnificent Manapul art, but a story that just did not have characters and spiraled into boring bullshit quickly. His Rogues are atrociously written, which is sad because you could have easily adopted the perfect tone that Johns had given them, and run with it in wild directions.
On the art side, the only qualm I have is that there are a bunch of children in it that are ostensibly meant to be Chinese, or are at least spoken to in Chinese by everybody, and they're 100 percent just white kids. Whatever, not a big deal, Manapul is fucking dope.
Story is a solid start with new characters, connections made directly Damian's death and Zero Year, and a new drug/villain. My problem with Boochbag, however, has never been his technical capacity for writing, because dude understands how to construct sentences just fine, but it's the lack of characterizations that come from him. Everybody comes off as flat for some reason. So, yes, different characters spoke using different dialects, whether that be the more street dialect used by the goons, or the biker bravado cheesy action movie dialect used by the bikers, or Alfred's more proper dialect...the word usage is different and appropriate but fuck, man, these people saying these words just do not feel like they are fully formed characters (totally the first issue in the arc, so there's time to put in work on that end).
I'm being hard on the dude, but that's because his Flash started the exact same way--all the promise in the world with that magnificent Manapul art, but a story that just did not have characters and spiraled into boring bullshit quickly. His Rogues are atrociously written, which is sad because you could have easily adopted the perfect tone that Johns had given them, and run with it in wild directions.
You gotta read Superior Spider-Man. It's the best thing to happen to Spider-Man since the last time something interesting happened to the series.
I'm not sure why but that gave me quite a chuckle at 2am here lol.
Don't laugh in the face of the truth, Messi.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Join us in late-nite Comic-gaf, Messi. Shit gets wild.
Lord Scrambles
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Harley- Pretty great, although slightly overused nowadays
Catwoman- Who can say no?
Ann Nocenti- meh
Haha I have heard its pretty great, and I do love me some Otto...I just thought it would be...awkward...you know...
ChaoticEko
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Agreed. Just decided to buy all the issues, just got done reading them yesterday. Holy awesomeness, I love it. Can't wait for the next(final) issue and Amazing Spider-Man.
Lord Scrambles
Member
I meant I like her lol
READ DAREDEVIL
It's 6:23 here on best coast.
I thought the same, too, but you got to
Baby I'm here all the time. My shit is always wild.
You'll learn the true meaning of insanity if you stay here long enough.
Also Harleys new solo book is amazing. Did you know the 1st issue was voted ComicGAF's number one book the month it came out. Beating out the final issue of Locke and Key.
Affeinvasion
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Now I'm curious: What are two features of Catwoman that you really like which set her apart from other characters?
Freezasaurus
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It really wasn't. Art was a bit 90's in some parts, and there was kind of a lot of exposition (which can be forgiven since a fuck-ton of people don't even know who the Inhumans are). Overall, it was a decent first issue. Hopefully it'll get better, but it'll probably crash and burn like most Marvel events.
Lord Scrambles
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Mark Waid's still writing it, right? If there's two things I can't resist its good ol' Marky Dubbya, and the man without fear.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I really hope Green Arrow and Moon Knight are amazing. Can't wait to read them. I don't think I can wait until tomorrow.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
I flicked through and it looked like an Udon book and at one point I'm pretty sure Akuma was uppercutting somebody. Not sure, just know I left it there, in one of the giant stacks shoved in a corner at my shop.
shadyspace
Banned
This isn't so much good comic book advice as it is good general life advice
Affeinvasion
Member
The part where Old Loki
steps off of the panel on the first page
really, "story" traveling
I like Selina as a character more than I do Catwoman. I like that she straddles the line between personal gain and being a good person, her relationship with Batman fascinates me. Its hard to describe actually, I struggle to connect with characters that are goody too shoes but Selina being conflicted intrigues me. Granted most of this is gone in the current book.
I like the sexual nature of Catwoman. Its hard to avoid it. Also that costume.
I'd write more and explain myself better but I'm on my phone in bed lol
Lord Scrambles
Member
Yep, at first I thought my issue was printed weird... then I looked with my brain turned on and really liked the effect.
Affeinvasion
Member
Well said. I think most writers (and artists, mostly) find the second part the easiest to fall back on, but don't treat it intelligently. I think the first reason is the reason why I'm actually starting to like "good guy" Loki so much. I know Batman:TAS series gets pretty much universal acclaim, but it did do a pretty good job of developing Catwoman as an interesting character. I'm actually surprised they didn't throw Catwoman onto Birds of Prey...she would have made more sense than Poison Ivy.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
I should be reading MP, right?
That's why I'm not really loving the current incarnation of Superman. There's room to tell really personal stories with the character, here is where I point to stuff like Superman: TAS and For All Seasons, but they don't.
Affeinvasion
Member
Probably. But if you're anything like me, your brain can only handle so much Hickman.
The Brubaker Catwoman is the best Catwoman. Its the most intriguing and doesn't really have to fall back on her using sex so often. It made her come across as a clever criminal but one with a heart of gold. It gave her actual motives and drove towards those more than I can say for Nocenti. Also the art in volume one is awesome.
Also as B-Dubs says the personal stories work best an Bru nailed the feeling of a personal story. What exactly was personal about the most recent Catwoman arc.
ChaoticEko
Neo Member
Is it sad that I own every single issue, and haven't read past the third one?
I loved what I read, just got distracted by other comics. Well, I'm off work tomorrow, guess i'll catch up on it.
You have missed SO MUCH, holy shit. Get on that shit STAT.
ChaoticEko
Neo Member
Blasphemy! I can read Hickman all day, every day. and Fraction. and Kindt.
This is pretty amazing
Rrongfield
Member
I'm screaming in excitement!
How did I miss this. It deserves more love. Shameless to go for that pun. SHAMELESS. I love it.
ChaoticEko
Neo Member
Ha, I will. Just checked my collection again, seems i'm missing #10....But its in the mail with a few other random missing comics.....
I'm determined to read it all tomorrow though, ill just
download
KoruptData
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Who is reading Magneto? Hearing good things on Twitter.
I have both but havent read them.
Storm Chamber
Banned
It's the first piece of work Bunn's done for Marvel that I've liked.
Moon Knight stole the show this week though
God dammit, read the book! I wasted all that time making that stupid post for last month's thread and no one read it. MP and Zero are the best books being published right now.
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