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COMICS! |OT| April 2014. Truly, there is no shame in continuing to read awful comics.
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GrandHarrier
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Time to check out Deadly Class #2 and 3. See if it gets to stay on the pull. These weeklies are going to inflict casualties somewhere. Thinking Rat Queens and Saga are going under the knife. Possibly Birds of Prey.
The fuck am I reading right now? I thought you were good people. You disappoint me GrandHarrier. Don't make these rash decisions.
Drop Birds of Prey. Even I dropped that. That book is average as fuck.
GrandHarrier
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Don't worry. Black Science and Red Sonja are safe. Rat Queens is cute but I feel like I sat down at someone elses DnD campaign halfway through and I don't understand half of the jokes or memes they are using. Saga is just losing the magic. The delays kill my enthusiasm. It'll probably become trade material somewhere down the line. Birds of Prey is, as you said, just OK but not OK in a way I can deal with (like Red Hood, which is just random enough to amuse me).
I didn't/don't get the hype about Deadly Class. The art looks really good, but the story sounds like some DeviantArt fan fiction.
Yesssss yesssssss embrace the hate. Deadly Class is a woefully middling book that somehow keeps getting voted for here each month.
GrandHarrier
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And issue #3 finished. Was it Remenders intention to destroy any likeability to the main character in this issue? Because he succeeded. What a fucking train wreck after an interesting #1.
Fuck this book.
A character does not have to be likable to be a good character. But you are right. Fuck this book.
Cover to issue 4 is cool though.
GrandHarrier
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For a main character they do. It's the same problem I have with JL3000. None of the main characters are likeable (and it's probably getting dropped too).
As much as I love Superboy Prime I don't want him as the star of a book.
I have other issues with the book: For a school dedicated to Assassin's you'd expect the students to have some basic skills already. So why are they learning stupid, basic shit? Especially if they are all advanced students as the headmaster said?
This book needed to have a touch of Japanimu. They needed to be learning special techniques. I want awesome over the top. I don't want beating a
hobo with a 2x4.
My fault for expecting more from the book.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
I kinda read a lot of the big 90s Hal stuff by accident as a kid - the Death and Return of Superman is a fairly definitive Hal story given what happens to coast city as well as being quite fun 90s nonsense. I never read Emerald Twilight but I think that's the next biggie. He's the main bad guy in Zero Hour as Paralax - only really worth it if you can borrow/steal. And then he becomes the Spectre in Final Night which is actually very good and features some nice early Immonen art. He pops up in Kevin smith's Green Arrow run too. Then with Kyle, probably the best stuff he was in would be Morrison's JLA.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
There gets to a point where Marvel just gives up with art teams. It's happening with Nova now. First they had Mcaguinness lite Paco Medina draw, now they are using every motherfucker that can pick up a pencil draw it.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
They know mothafuckas will keep buying it regardless of the art
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Too true.
And slightconfuse, I'm feeling ya a bit with Miss Marvel if this were a true origin story, broad would've had at least five rogues by now and three superlative nick names.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
lol wut
Read Scalped much?
Or 100 Bullets?
Or a million incredible comics?
CEREBUS?? Shit, I don't even like the CREATOR of that book and it's still fantastic.
phazedplasma
Member
Wow Iron Fist was good.
Pls more like that Marvel.
And I dont know what you guys are smoking, deadly class is great.
Pls more like that Marvel.
And I dont know what you guys are smoking, deadly class is great.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The only requirement I have is that the protagonist be interesting. Likeability is nice, but in no way necessary. And I'm not arrogant enough to complain about them not being "relatable". Its not all about you, mothafucka.
Storm Chamber
Banned
To be fair that's like...half the point.
The Neil Adams and Denny O'Neil Green Lantern/Green Arrow run from the 70s is good and available in one tpb. It's a bit of a product of its era but is still an enjoyable read. It has the first appearance of John Stewart and the now infamous arc about Speedy being addicted to heroin.
The 80s stuff is hit or miss and is being collected in tpbs titled Green Lantern: Sector 2814 (I wanna say there's three volumes released so far). If I remember right, this is a mix of Hal and John stuff.
The next major story was the Death of Superman and resulting destruction of Coast City. Hal's descent to madness was chronicled in the Emerald Twilight arc in issues Green Lantern #48-#50. After that was Kyle taking over in the New Dawn arc in issues #51-55ish. The trade for this is out of print but all the issues are on comixology.
From there you can follow Hal to Zero Hour and Final Night and Kyle to Morrison's run on JLA.
GrandHarrier
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Sorry fer havin' differin' opinions brah. I need my main characters likeable.
Storm Chamber
Banned
Speaking of Saga, when does that return?
I'm not even sure if I care anymore to be completely honest.
I'm not even sure if I care anymore to be completely honest.
House of Cards unlikable vs Game of Thrones unlikable, for me. I cant' stand House of Cards really, i hate everyone, and don't enjoy watching the show because of this. Game of Thrones has some truly awful people like The Mountain, and then lots of semi-awful but entertaining characters that aren't unlikable because they are interestinggggggggg, and it's very engaging.
Then they have Bran.
Depending how far back you want to go, there are two omnibi or seven Archive editions that collect the first 50 or so issues of Hal Jordan era GL.
The Ion era of Kyle is worth reading as well if you can track it down (GL #142-#155). Sadly the trades are out of print and comixology doesn't go that far yet.
There was also the GL:Mosaic series in the 90s about John, but sadly that was never collected and isn't on comixology either.
sixpackrules
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i have to buy zero y the manhattan projects, image has an awful lot of great comics going on this days
GrandHarrier
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I'm now convinced the book exists solely for Remender to name drop stuff from the 80s. He put more effort into that then he did in the logic behind the world he has crafted.
And the end of issue #3... Main character is a fucking monster.
Yeah I suppose this is a really good analogy for what I meant. People can be likeable and be assholes at the same time. But then some characters are just insufferable. I don't care about them. They could drop dead the next panel and I wouldn't give a fuck.
I've mentioned Justice League 3000. Seriously, the villains of that universe (at least Locus) are more likeable than the heroes. I actively root for the heroes to lose because they are the fucking worst. If the book was about the Fake Fatal Five, then I'd probably be more on board.
I finally finished my run of cosmic Marvel. Started at Annihilation and went through to The Thanos Imperative. These are some of my favorite stories in all of comics, and I didn't really notice it ever losing my interest as I read on through. The 2008 run on GOTG was in particular a favorite of mine, and I can definitely see why Marvel is banking a movie on that property.
Is the current Guardians of the Galaxy series worth following? I have a few reservations about it, mainly that none of the non-movie Guardians are in the current roster from my understanding, and also I'm hoping that they did a good job handling the impacts of the Thanos Imperative.
Is the current Guardians of the Galaxy series worth following? I have a few reservations about it, mainly that none of the non-movie Guardians are in the current roster from my understanding, and also I'm hoping that they did a good job handling the impacts of the Thanos Imperative.
Such as Star Lord and Drax's return.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I know several people here like it, but I think it's a big let down compared to DnA's run. The artwork is gorgeous but the story wasn't really going anywhere in what I read. But you can get the first trade pretty cheap online if you want to give it a shot.
AFAIK they have yet to reveal how Star-Lord and Thanos came back from the collapse of the Cancerverse. Richard Rider's still dead.... just because.
You should dump these a matter of principle.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
gling gling gling!!!!
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Solar is definitely the weakest of the Gold Key books so far.
USA Today has an interview up with Jeff Lemire about Justice League United. The closing quote was music to my ears:
Jeff Lemire said:
Tragicomedy
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List!
Image
Lazarus #8
Manhattan Projects #20
Zero #7
Marvel
Avengers Undercover #3
Daredevil #2
Elektra #1
Uncanny Avengers #19
So he basically dislikes the entire industry since 1986? Okay, Jeff.
Image
Lazarus #8
Manhattan Projects #20
Zero #7
Marvel
Avengers Undercover #3
Daredevil #2
Elektra #1
Uncanny Avengers #19
So he basically dislikes the entire industry since 1986? Okay, Jeff.
team fun, let's go! I didn't think DC had fun so i'm skeptical but i have the first issue on order.
Better hope Didio doesn't read this interview. What is Lemire thinking with this "fun" shit anyway? Did he forget that every one of these characters' parents are DEAD?!
they had to reboot the universe just to take away their wives too. Then have a batman zero year to kill bruce's parents again. Now i'm thinking about Spidey's devil magic deal.....comics...
phazedplasma
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Nope not at all.
Bendis' version of the characters you loved are mere caricatures of themselves. The book was bogged down in tie ins and "angela" bullshit and never given any room to breathe. You will hate rocket raccoon in this book.
And no they didnt do a good job handling any of that stuff that happened at the end of Thanos Imperative.
tringworldso
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Girls just wanna have fun? Judging by the cover and the amount of females in it, it seems that I'm right :->
The characters are actively annoying. They are Mary Sueish and "gritty" in a rather ridiculous fan-fiction-y way. It's as if Remender couldn't decide if he wanted to do over-the-top/ironic or dark/realistic.
But to be honest, I'll probably give it one more issue before dropping. Black Science also needed 3 issues before it got good.
Sounds like my kind of thing on paper. Need more of that.
Hope it's not just PR fluff though.
phazedplasma
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wow, very excited
Damn I can't wait for this.
Not touching it then, my biggest concern was that the series would be a half-hearted GotG in name only that was only brought back to capitalize on the movie. (Which coincidentally was what got me to try cosmic Marvel in the first place) If they can't even handle the big finale of the Thanos Imperative and have yet to address it then the book isn't worth my time.
Uhhh..
That is one pretty lady
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
They're a contrast to the bromance of Green Arrow and Animal Man. "They pretend to hate each other and they're obviously in love with one another," the writer says with a laugh.
Yes. Buddy and Olly bromance. This book should be fun.
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