Those in particular have been seen on officially released covers for months now. Almost half a year actually.
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COMICS! |OT| April 2015. Everyone's burned out and looking for an excuse to quit.
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Those in particular have been seen on officially released covers for months now. Almost half a year actually.
Yeah, fair enough. But just incase there was any hope I had missed the other spoiler it was just posted again.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Nope. No confusion. He's "full gay."
And so is Future Bobby, if you follow Jean's reasoning, e.g. the "not well" bit.
Yeah sorry about that, I fucked up earlier myself. Doesn't look like that one's going back in the bottle.
Edit: Sad Bendis.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
I thought their names were Tim and BossDarkseid.
I think I'm gonna be sick. What they've done so insensitive and ham-fisted and Alonso is acting like they're taking a bold step and handling it with care? UGH.
And I love this comic, too.
GrandHarrier
Member
But Tim, Justice League 3001 #2,
Introducing Supergirl.
Introducing Supergirl.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I've a feeling they might make it where he's an alternate reality Bobby
BKatastrophe
Member
I believe himYeah sorry about that, I fucked up earlier myself. Doesn't look like that one's going back in the bottle.
Edit: Sad Bendis.
I love that Secret Avengers so much. Last issue drops this week?
I thought that too then I was like you know what, Marvel just being Marvel. I mean think about it, this is a world that is supposed to "look like what we see outside our windows" or whatever nonsense they spew at the same time as:
- most technologically advanced country in the world is in central Africa
- Nazis still huge threat and no mention (that I have seen yet I am still rather new to comics) of religious extremism
- almost no Asian male superheros
Yea guys looks just like the real world!
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Nope, next week. Can't wait.
I figure it's more a situation of Bendis' poor dialogue and the scene in question beng blown up by the internet via leaks. After all the scene wasn't the chosen preview pics and the concept itself isn't without merit, just Bendis' X-men is a lot more "cool idea, not so cool execution."
Coriolanus
Banned
Edit: Sad Bendis.
Baldie is either lying, stupid, or both.
Eh, SPEAR got introduced in Avengers World, and while Logan was killing people in madripoor oodles were introduced. They just... fell by the wayside.
Hickman is doing god's work with Quan Shi or Shang Tzi or whatever his name is, tho.
I am going with option A.
I was wondering when you'd see that, it's even the classic costume! I was too busy geeking out over the new JLU creative team and forgot to post it.
I laugh every time I see Gal Gardner, so dumb and so funny.
Alonso makes it pretty clear this is going to affect E616 Bobby, I think.
Oh, that's absolutely it. The story that comes from this could be very good. But how Bendis went about this? I'm not sure it could be any worse. These pages are Horrible.
I can think of 10 in 5 seconds. It's incredibly hamfisted and awkward, but there are far worse ways to out a character's sexuality.
Freezasaurus
Member
Just wait until they let Bendis have a crack at Star Wars
Disney will never let Bendis have a crack at Star Wars
my name is ed
Banned
why do you say that? He didn't ask for leaks or any promo for this particular part of the story. He's not talking about the actual reception the comic would get which is not even out yet
GrandHarrier
Member
It's the haircut. The fact that it's the same dumb bowl cut.
Oh yea just wait until Jason Aaron turns Luke into a woman!
He has been around for so long he has to know that changing the sexuality of a decades old character would cause a stir this day and age.
Coriolanus
Banned
Because he knew it would leak, as comics always leak. And he knew it would blow up. And he knew the press would follow, along with the headlines.
I mean, I dunno, I thought I was full-on 100% straight for 22 years, it's not that unreasonable to think Teen Bobby would get it wrong and think he's completely absolutely thoroughly gay.
Or maybe he really is at that point in time. Sexuality's a weird confusing fluid thing like that.
There's multiple levels of fucked up in this mess, but mostly I'm bummed about the bi erasure. Then again it could totally come back, we still don't have Adult Bobby's point of view on the whole thing.
It's just a whole big confusing fucked up thing that should not have been let hanging for the sake of selling the next issue, because it's a super sensitive topic and if you're gonna delve in it you need to get it fucking right.
And the stupid vest. God bless Howard Porter.
How about the Starro army behind Kara? At this point these guys can do no wrong in my book.
Honestly I live in San Francisco and am bros with lots of gay people and this is the first I have ever heard of this. In media or in real life. I have certainly seen people who were married divorce and enter same sex relationships, but I always figured that was because they were not comfortable coming out of the closet. Like Elton John or whatever.
Sexuality can be fluid, and people's minds don't all work the same. Folks can be in relationships and not do so for the sole fact of keeping up a facade.
You know the adage, not black n white. Though it can be in particular instances.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
The better way to find out if a character is gay is if Wonder Girl's "gaydar meter" went off.
BuddyJoeHooker
Member
Solicitations-age
Not gonna bother with Marvel or DC
Image
Down for Island and Wolf, new BKV book seems like it will be a miniseries so that is a trade wait.
Getting that East of West HC (even though I collect the floppies), Last Days of American Crime HC and Red One HC.
Last Zero trade -_- I hope they put the whole thing in a ohc
Bloodstrike, I just don't know.
Also: Dark Knight Returns Deluxe, Snyder Swamp Thing Deluxe and Sweet Tooth Deluxe are probably a buy.
Not gonna bother with Marvel or DC
Image
Down for Island and Wolf, new BKV book seems like it will be a miniseries so that is a trade wait.
Getting that East of West HC (even though I collect the floppies), Last Days of American Crime HC and Red One HC.
Last Zero trade -_- I hope they put the whole thing in a ohc
Bloodstrike, I just don't know.
Also: Dark Knight Returns Deluxe, Snyder Swamp Thing Deluxe and Sweet Tooth Deluxe are probably a buy.
Yeah sorry about that, I fucked up earlier myself. Doesn't look like that one's going back in the bottle.
Edit: Sad Bendis.
Yes well Bendis you can't just shit on 50 years of character development and not expect some response.
That I understand. But the poster made it sound like sexuality is fluid. Obviously I am no expert but if I were to hazard a guess I would err on the side of sexuality not being fluid for a great majority of people. Either way, as long as it is fluid for some then it is plausible that it could be fluid for the character in question.
Do they? This isn't the pre-digital days anymore, the number of people who actually scan physical copies is literally 1 guy on /co/ who does it for shits and giggles and the idea that "comics always leak" is basically untrue because... they don't. Go hate the dude's comics all you want but suggesting he's being disingenuous when he says he wanted the comic to stand on its own isn't a good look mate.
I would say not expecting changing a decade old character's sexuality to cause a stir isn't a good look. This is Marvel we are talking about; they live for controversy and pushing the envelope. But to each their own.
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_/¯Two different issues. What I've seen of it looks pretty dumb but that's different from saying that Bendis was relying on this one random internet dude so that his comic would be scanned for All The Publicity.
It's fucking marvel, they don't give a fuck how shameless they look with their promotion so why would they shy away in this case if they really wanted to get it out there?
I'd err on the side of sexuality is fluid(in varying degrees) for a variety of folks, but its ultimately up to other factors to cement things
¯\_(ツ
Two different issues. What I've seen of it looks pretty dumb but that's different from saying that Bendis was relying on this one random internet dude so that his comic would be scanned for All The Publicity.
It's fucking marvel, they don't give a fuck how shameless they look with their promotion so why would they shy away in this case if they really wanted to get it out there?
Why on earth would Bendis/Marvel let an issue like this come out without some "leak?" That makes no sense whatsoever and I'm pretty sure you know that man...
I'm not trying to be hostile here and I have no problem with whatever story the creators want to tell; but come on you can't really believe his BS?
Edit: OK with your edit I better understand where you're coming from.
It's not as exact as that, but I feel like the process of finding what one's own sexuality is is just that, a process, and that it's entirely possible to get it wrong for a large chunk of your life, because pretty much everything tells you it's supposed to work one way and not another.
What I'm saying is, based on my experience, which, admittedly, I've only been out for less than a year so, what the fuck do I know really, it's completely possible for Bobby to think he's gay and be wrong about it, which would explain the feelings he's expressed for women later in his life.
Interesting. Based on that it seems far more likely for a false positive straight than the other way around (society telling you straight is they way it's supposed to work). Which might be what happened to Bobby.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
"This is a character with decades of history and one who've seen falter on the romantic stage-more than once. So the seeds were always there." Fuxk off Alonso.
Failed relationships can lead to sexuality changes? Marvel clearly in good hands.
Freezasaurus
Member
like ive said, it happens to everyone in comics that has relationships. its not a good excuse
maybe everyone in comics is gay, it would explain the fan art.
if thats the case, then just about every character in fiction is gay, with many bordering, or full blown incestual
Freezasaurus
Member
Alonso is Marvel's Ken Katuragi. Now that guy said some funny shit.