GrandHarrier
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Every book is a Bat Family book. Some just don't realize it yet.
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COMICS! |OT| August 2014. Infinite universes, or just fifty-two? Thanos.
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Every book is a Bat Family book. Some just don't realize it yet.
Thanks for the mini review! I'll definitely try to check this out sometime. That sounds very interesting.
tringworldso
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(Keeping it vague for those who haven't seen the image)Is that supposed to be the architect aka the big bad for Eternal?
Jedeye Sniv
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Fucking LMAO at that spoiler. Is Eternal really just a mixtape of shit that's already happened? Spoiler, Blackfyre, the Roman... I hope there's more to it.
ThyMusicMan
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Half way through Final Crisis... Really enjoying it!
tringworldso
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What? They are bringing back old characters into the N52, not repeating events.
It's absolutely fantastic. One of my favorite new series.
Fantastic Four is where much of the cosmic craziness originates, so it stand to reason Hickman would ace that shit, if he was given enough control.
The classic cartoon cat who is also a clock is my favorite. At first I thought he was jut a fancy schedule keeper but no he is a actually an autonomous character.
He is my favorite too. He is quite fancy.
I also wquite like Alain. Kate is the most unlikable character in the book.
NYCmetsfan
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So I think I've been doing pretty good getting into the Marvel universe but I'm completely confused on the DC universe. Should I just start at the new 52?
Is there anything I should read before flash point? Any good crossover or events?
Is there anything I should read before flash point? Any good crossover or events?
Start with new 52 Batman and extend out to characters you think you like. Then you can cherry pick pre 52 storylines. That's what I did. Also pick up Harley Quinn.
NYCmetsfan
Banned
So I need to read anything going into the new 52 (I've read flashpoint)
Memento Mori
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Read The Black Mirror (Detective Comics 871-881) because it's great.
GrandHarrier
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There is plenty pre-52 that is amazing and worth your time. But if you wanna hop in to what is current continuity then you can pick New 52 branded titles. It really depends on what flavor of super hero appeals to you.
Out of curiosity, what Marvel heroes have you been enjoying? What themes interest you?
indigo-cyclops
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It never ceases to amaze me how versatile yet wholely consistent Grant is.
ViewtifulJC
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Mumei u don't have to do this!
Awful.
GrandHarrier
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I personally enjoyed it.
Guess not! What about X-Statix? The omnibus is also 50% off.
Rrongfield
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Go for it.
BenjaminBirdie
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whatsinaname
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No.
Absolute No.
Don't.
(Borrow it from the library. I love Absolute editions and I didn't buy this even when it was ~$35 on IST).
ViewtifulJC
Banned
yes
Would only be one of the best comic related purchases you'll ever make.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Fucks yes. X-Statix is still highly relevant and enjoyable and tells some of the most unique Marvel stories ever. Also, Michael Allred, Darwyn Cooke, amd a bunch of other great artists contribute.
Identity Crisis is shite.
:O
If his section looks anything like his stuff on The Spirit or The New Frontier.... gimme.
GrandHarrier
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No, it really isn't.
ViewtifulJC
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nah, it is. Best thing to come out Identity Crisis was Kyle Baker taking the piss out of it
also, X-Statix fill-in artists include Darwyn Cooke, Philip Bond, Paul Pope, Sean Phillips, Nick Dragotta, and Duncan fuckin' Fegredo. Thats how good lookin that book is
BenjaminBirdie
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Yeah, it's a really solid TV series of a comic. One plot line is super middling, and I wish Nguyen wasn't drawing it in ink, but overall it's really well put together.
My only real complaint is that weekly series SHOULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT A SINGLE COVER ARTIST.
Futures End is some of the worst drawn comics since the last Wolverine & The X-Men, but Ryan Sook is doing JG Jones level work on every cover and it somehow miraculously keeps me interested.
I agree with you. It was a decent story (albeit with some odd plot holes [
that you can wave away by saying Loring's insanity made her not think straight
the mindwipes, Batman not trusting the league and REALLY not trusting Zatanna [until Batman: Death and The City or whatever]
Sidenote on those spoilers up there, I was reading Grant Morrison's JLA and in it it's revealed that
Batman 'n' Crew had given a bunch of white Martians amnesia and set them up new lives, while in Identity Crisis Batman was FREAKING OUT about mindwiping Dr. Light. Why? Was it because the Dr. Light thing was so sloppy and brutal, or what?
EDIT: yo that comic up there is amusing though
tringworldso
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Why is Ed Brubaker doing The Fade Out instead of going back to wrap up Incognito? 4 years now and that god damn ending in Bad Influences is begging for a sequel.
GrandHarrier
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Identity Crisis was fascinating because it was a deconstruction of Silver Age idealism vs. Modern age "realism". It sought to explain how it was that heroes had managed to go so long without their identities being exposed. I loved it. It was the trade that got me back into buying comics again.
I really do love the covers.
I really do love the covers.
I liked Identity Crisis as well. Yes, it's very dark and no, I wouldn't want everything to be that way, but I think if you read it as its own thing without trying to link it to trends or imagine that it is establishing new norms then it is an interesting read with good art.
With that said, the Kyle Baker stuff posted above is an interesting critique which I want to read. To me the argument against "dark" comics like DKR, Watchmen, Identity Crisis (which certainly is not on the same level), The Boys, etc... is an odd one as dark and grim and light and fun can coexist. I can like Giffen's JLA, Hawkeye (RIP), Zatanna, Power Girl on the one hand and still like dark comics as well. It's not a zero-sum game.
ViewtifulJC
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Identity Crisis was dark and quite terrible, but it wasn't terrible because it was dark.
tringworldso
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Rofl... you're calling Patrick Zircher, Scot Eaton, Aaron Lopresti, Jesus Merino pencilled art as some of the worst drawn comics? You haven't seen terrible art then.... unless what you're really complaining about is the static layout in which case it is because of Keith Giffen.
He is my favorite too. He is quite fancy.
I also wquite like Alain. Kate is the most unlikable character in the book.
He had an apple car =(
BenjaminBirdie
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Zircher is delivering the only good art of the bunch. And the key word there is pencilled.
I'm sure the pencils look great. We'll never no because they were inked by very bad inkers, or themselves with a clearly limited time frame.
I would put very little of this on the artists and all of it on the scheduling and possibly editorial, since Batman Eternal looks fantastic pretty much every week.
slightconfuse
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Taking out all the rape and lobotomy a and death. Idenity crisis isn't even a good Mystery story
That and ultimatum are in a special class of its own
That and ultimatum are in a special class of its own
BenjaminBirdie
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Perfectly put. Lousy in every discernible way.
slightconfuse
Banned
Changing gears Palmiotti , gray and Cooke reunite with Jonah Hex
http://comicsalliance.com/all-star-western-jonah-hex-finale-darwyn-cooke-preview/
http://comicsalliance.com/all-star-western-jonah-hex-finale-darwyn-cooke-preview/
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