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COMICS! |OT| December 2013. Spiking the eggnog, and not telling Stark about it.

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Thanks to whoever recommended me that Captain America comic. That was my first comic I've ever read (well... the most recent), and it was glorious.

Lots of action like I wanted, and I learned a little more about Captain America.

I didn't know much about the whole
alien and this Zola person
thing going on, but what I saw was great. Do superheroes usually talk to themselves a lot in comics, or is this just a Cap America thing? He talked to himself a lot, even during action scenes.

The comic I read was:
Captain America Vol 7 #1 (Castaway in Dimension Z)
 

Owzers

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Blackest Night was were I ended up signing off of Green Lantern. I still haven't read the GLC stuff from the event. It was so convoluted, and naturally it ended up largely leading into Brightest Day, which in itself just led to something else. That pattern of Green Lantern existing as event followed by event, each one trying to increase the scale, grew tiresome.

you've missed almost nothing. Johns' final issue of Green Lantern was fairly good, but only as good as it could be as a conclusion to another crappy crossover event.
 
Thanks to whoever recommended me that Captain America comic. That was my first comic I've ever read (well... the most recent), and it was glorious.

Lots of action like I wanted, and I learned a little more about Captain America.

I didn't know much about the whole
alien and this Zola person
thing going on, but what I saw was great. Do superheroes usually talk to themselves a lot in comics, or is this just a Cap America thing? He talked to himself a lot, even during action scenes.

The comic I read was:
Captain America Vol 7 #1 (Castaway in Dimension Z)

It's more of a Remender thing.

As you read more of them you'll start to gravitate more towards creators than characters. Remender is very into an internal monologue driving the drama. Some other writers let the action just happen, or focus on exterior dialogue.

It's a very flexible (and thus awesome) medium. Welcome to the party. :)
 

tim1138

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Thanks to whoever recommended me that Captain America comic. That was my first comic I've ever read (well... the most recent), and it was glorious.

Lots of action like I wanted, and I learned a little more about Captain America.

I didn't know much about the whole
alien and this Zola person
thing going on, but what I saw was great. Do superheroes usually talk to themselves a lot in comics, or is this just a Cap America thing? He talked to himself a lot, even during action scenes.

The comic I read was:
Captain America Vol 7 #1 (Castaway in Dimension Z)

Welcome to the club! You'll come to find that creators have their quirks for writing characters, and like Benjamin said, internal monologuing is common for Rick Remender.

I would suggest checking out your local public library for trades/graphic novels. It's a great way to find characters and creators you like and not break the bank.
 

Filthy Slug

Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Thanks to whoever recommended me that Captain America comic. That was my first comic I've ever read (well... the most recent), and it was glorious.

Lots of action like I wanted, and I learned a little more about Captain America.

I didn't know much about the whole
alien and this Zola person
thing going on, but what I saw was great. Do superheroes usually talk to themselves a lot in comics, or is this just a Cap America thing? He talked to himself a lot, even during action scenes.

The comic I read was:
Captain America Vol 7 #1 (Castaway in Dimension Z)

Yeah, internal monologues are an important facet of comics. For some great internal monologues, check out Frank Millers Dark Knight Returns.
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
I unfortunately haven't been keeping up with the comics threads but I'll try to rectify that. I recently got up to date with ASM and started reading Superior. I'm not totally sold on the idea yet (still on issue 3) but it wasn't as abhorrent as I thought it'd be when I heard about the Otto thing.

I started reading Y the Last Man yesterday, and short term in the queue I have The Unwritten, Sweet Tooth and the rest of Hellboy (everything after Darkness Calls).

A friend of mine bought an iPad Mini so I got her reading Sandman during her downtime at work, she's still reading it but now she wants more recommendations. Success. A few years ago I got her to read Bone, she liked it but now with tablets it's much easier to get the ball rolling.

Amusing to see bara porn in a list like this.

Some interesting stuff here, I'm going to check out the ones I didn't know about.
 

Messi

Member
I... I read all of Catwoman.

What... Why? I keep reading hoping something will make it better. I really like Catwoman as a character but the writer on her book is woeful. Actually I need to read the zero year issue.

I should have listened to you folks

Poor Selina/Catwoman.
 

Cheska

Member
I... I read all of Catwoman.

What... Why? I keep reading hoping something will make it better. I really like Catwoman as a character but the writer on her book is woeful. Actually I need to read the zero year issue.

Poor Catwoman.

I found the Zero Year issue to be fantastic. Very enjoyable :)


Feels like it's going to be a very DC week
Batgirl #26
Batman #26
Justice League #25
Justice League of America #10
Superman Wonder Woman #3
Lazaraus #5

I suppose it'll give me a chance to catch up on everything else. I finally read all three issues of Wild Blue Yonder, and it's freaking amazing. Absolutely love the art and dynamic of the book, glad I added it to my pull list. I even sought out the variant to #1 since I the cover is so great.
 

Mumei

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Blackest night was a fun popcorn event in the DCU. Mumei you should check out sinestro corps war next!

I read that first. I started with the Green Lantern: Rebirth retcons and (mostly) read the lead-up to Blackest Night. I quite enjoyed a lot of that, when the story didn't feel like it was trying to be "All of DCU", even if the scope was always pretty huge.

I agree with people saying it felt sort of tiresome, and more of an excuse to bring back characters than to tell a good story. It probably doesn't help that I'm reading Saga of the Swamp Man and it suffers by comparison.
 

Messi

Member
I found the Zero Year issue to be fantastic. Very enjoyable :)


Feels like it's going to be a very DC week
Batgirl #26
Batman #26
Justice League #25
Justice League of America #10
Superman Wonder Woman #3
Lazaraus #5

I suppose it'll give me a chance to catch up on everything else. I finally read all three issues of Wild Blue Yonder, and it's freaking amazing. Absolutely love the art and dynamic of the book, glad I added it to my pull list. I even sought out the variant to #1 since I the cover is so great.

It being fantastic would be a complete 180 from the train wreck it currently is
 
I suppose it'll give me a chance to catch up on everything else. I finally read all three issues of Wild Blue Yonder, and it's freaking amazing. Absolutely love the art and dynamic of the book, glad I added it to my pull list. I even sought out the variant to #1 since I the cover is so great.

I adore this book. The high flying action sequences are exciting, both because they are well done and because they feature fragile human characters flying through the air fighting- not invulnerable heroes. The family dynamic is intriguing and mysterious. Just this world of people living in giant air freighters.. It captures the imagination but also makes some sense as a potential future reality considering the ways in which we are destroying our planet. But then there is the main question:
when it comes down to it, is that spy character going to really betray his new adopted family? And what will happen when the bad freighter guys catch up with the good freighter guys? (Sorry for lack of names for the characters and groups. I haven't read it in a while and can't remember, heh.)
 
I read that first. I started with the Green Lantern: Rebirth retcons and (mostly) read the lead-up to Blackest Night. I quite enjoyed a lot of that, when the story didn't feel like it was trying to be "All of DCU", even if the scope was always pretty huge.

I agree with people saying it felt sort of tiresome, and more of an excuse to bring back characters than to tell a good story. It probably doesn't help that I'm reading Saga of the Swamp Man and it suffers by comparison.

Yeah, Rebirth, up through before Blackest Night is all really top tier stuff. It's when Blackest Night starts that the problems do. They should have ended the series when Black Hand blows his head off.
 

Cheska

Member
I adore this book. The high flying action sequences are exciting, both because they are well done and because they feature fragile human characters flying through the air fighting- not invulnerable heroes. The family dynamic is intriguing and mysterious. Just this world of people living in giant air freighters.. It captures the imagination but also makes some sense as a potential future reality considering the ways in which we are destroying our planet. But then there is the main question:
when it comes down to it, is that spy character going to really betray his new adopted family? And what will happen when the bad freighter guys catch up with the good freighter guys? (Sorry for lack of names for the characters and groups. I haven't read it in a while and can't remember, heh.)

The displays are truly gorgeous. My jaw dropped at that spread where
both Cola and Tug were watching the sunset. I think we're probably going to see the usual change of heart and drama though. Tug ends up caring for his new family, Olivia finds out Tug is a spy and wants him banished, Tug falls for Cola and wants to show her he switched sides yada yada. Still though, if the quality is this good in most issues I will gladly continue to support it.
I'm a sucker for books with dogs too, so I love that Critter is included.

And if you guys haven't already, go pick up Rover Red Charlie!
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
We got paul Cornells Action comics run spinning out of blackest night. so it wasnt all for naught

You know, I've been intrigued by that since it was rather acclaimed. I read his short Batman & Robin arc and Knight & Squire, the former of which was fine but unremarkable, and the latter I was lukewarm about but maybe it was just too British for me.
 
Okay, I finally cracked open that Hawkguy OSHC. I had read all the hype, tend to like the character, love Aja. Still, nothing could have prepared me.

I wouldn't know where to start so I'll just say it's a hell of a special book and I'm genuinely happy to think it is currently published.

It's really perfect in the sense the writing and art complete each other perfectly and the book does exactly what it set out to do.

And Pizza Dog is awesome.


Yeah, Rebirth, up through before Blackest Night is all really top tier stuff. It's when Blackest Night starts that the problems do. They should have ended the series when Black Hand blows his head off.
I had been rereading that entire run recently and I stopped exactly at this point.

In retrospect, Sinestro Corps War really is the high mark of that run and every event afterwards felt like it was trying to recapture the stakes and the epicness of that event.

To be fair, while all the events got a bit boring towards the end, Johns concluded his run on a great note. It was just a mess getting there.
I half blame DC editorial for derailing everything when BN became a DCU event rather than a GL crossover.
 
Okay, I finally cracked open that Hawkguy OSHC. I had read all the hype, tend to like the character, love Aja. Still, nothing could have prepared me.

I wouldn't know where to start so I'll just say it's a hell of a special book and I'm genuinely happy to think it is currently published.

It's really perfect in the sense the writing and art complete each other perfectly and the book does exactly what it set out to do.

And Pizza Dog is awesome.

It's awesome, isn't it? I had the individual issues but I had to get the OHC as well. Hawkguy is best comic.

Hawkeye-11-Pizza-Dog-Salute.jpg
 
And if you guys haven't already, go pick up Rover Red Charlie!
"Feeders don't hurt dogs! Feeders don't hurt dogs! I'm a dog, I'm a dog! I'm a dog, I'm a dog!"

I felt so bad for Charlie the whole time. :(

This book is 'Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey" set in the Crossed universe, but don't let that scare you away. There's something about dogs being characters but also being dogs that's incredibly endearing, and when they're put into this apocalyptic scenario with a dog's level of understanding, it becomes frightening. Pet owners, I think, can easily relate to that "something" and be drawn in by it; fearing for man's best friend because they're your best friend.. There are some moments that are there to remind you that you are reading an Ennis book (
"How's my ass, dude?"
had me rolling my eyes even though, yes, that would happen), and I half-expect the dogs to resort to corpse-feeding and cannibalism before it's all said and done. But I'd recommend picking it up, especially if you're a fan of 'Pride of Baghdad': it's gives a similar impression.
 
I... I read all of Catwoman.

What... Why? I keep reading hoping something will make it better. I really like Catwoman as a character but the writer on her book is woeful. Actually I need to read the zero year issue.

I should have listened to you folks

Poor Selina/Catwoman.

Zero Year Catwoman is pretty good. Not perfect but far superior to anything that Nocenti is doing, It's the same creative team as Detective Comics (Layman / Lopresti) which has been great. Lopresti's art is gorgeous.
 
Finally caught up on my floppies with enough time to spare to finally finish Gotham Central. Awww fuck!
How the shit did they go and kill Cris!? I knew it was coming but I still can't deal. He was fuckin' rad, dammit. Jesus Christ fuck that Corrigan piece if shit!
And my girl, Renee, damn Renee what have you become girl?! Shit!

Now on to the last two chapters. Somebody hold me.
 

woodland

Member
Okay question.

I've never been into comics before. I've been into manga for a little bit now, but never cared about most of the American etc heroes until reading these comic threads lately, which are hilarious.

Could anyone give me recommendations for a starter and where to read it online? Is there a site to purchase/read at?

The only advice I can give is I really liked Young Justice and Teen Titans when they were on TV. Preferably something with a modern art style, nothing old please ;D
 

Cheska

Member
Okay question.

I've never been into comics before. I've been into manga for a little bit now, but never cared about most of the American etc heroes until reading these comic threads lately, which are hilarious.

Could anyone give me recommendations for a starter and where to read it online? Is there a site to purchase/read at?

The only advice I can give is I really liked Young Justice and Teen Titans when they were on TV. Preferably something with a modern art style, nothing old please ;D

Much like Persona 4 tends to be the go to game for people looking to get into rpgs, I feel like Saga is the comic equivalent.

Saga is this drama epic by Brian K Vaughan about star crossed lovers ala Romeo and Juliet. The art is phenomenal, the characters full of life and it's just hooks you from the start.

You can pick up the trades/single issues digitally via comixology.com or you can certainly look up a local comic book shop nearby. I believe that Barnes and Nobles also carries the first two trades for you to quickly catch up on.
 

Owzers

Member
Saga isn't a bad recommendation, i'd go with Umbrella Academy or Runaways based off young justice/teen titans enjoyment.
 

Filthy Slug

Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
I was waiting for the Killjoy trade to come out but that series didn't get a lot of love from gaf/reviews.

Dude, stay away. I've been following the floppies and truly, this is a flop of a story. Gerard Way took the concept for one of his MCR albums and decided to expand upon it in comic form but it's absolutely a dud. No characterizations, it's still entirely nonsensical 5/6 issues in, and worst of all, it's just vapid. Becky Cloonan is doing great stuff there but it's a waste for this wannabe MCR album. I feel like he's pandering to fans of his band.

Umbrella Academy was some brilliant stuff, and his unreleased Batman comic seemed on-par, so there's comic talent there, it just ain't showing right now.
 

Cheska

Member
Persona 4 is not the issue I have with your post.

Ahhh! Well I can certainly understand if you're not a fan of Saga, if that was the issue. I'm just speaking from personal experience, I have a couple of friends that had absolutely no interest in comics because they always just assumed it related to superheroes only. Almost all of them have now become instant fans of Saga after I suggested they try it, and they've picked up a couple of other Image books since. Regardless of what we like/don't like, it's always nice to have more fans hop aboard this crazy trains :)
 
Regardless of what we like/don't like, it's always nice to have more fans hop aboard this crazy trains :)

I agree and I can see how a first time comic book buyer could be real impressed with it. I actually do buy it. Find it to be okay so far but entirely lackluster compared to what BKV has done before this. Just airing my disappointment with it in respect to the hopes I had for it.
 

ReiGun

Member
Okay question.

I've never been into comics before. I've been into manga for a little bit now, but never cared about most of the American etc heroes until reading these comic threads lately, which are hilarious.

Could anyone give me recommendations for a starter and where to read it online? Is there a site to purchase/read at?

The only advice I can give is I really liked Young Justice and Teen Titans when they were on TV. Preferably something with a modern art style, nothing old please ;D

How old is old? Is 98 old? If not, try the 98 Young Justice comic. Runaways is good too.
 
Comics Beat posted an article entitled 'Retailer Roundtable: Are Original Graphic Novels a Sh*tty Business Model?' I found it to be quite an interesting read. Recently CBR columnist Brian Hibbs said (in response to Fantagraphics successful company-saving Kickstarter) that basically OGNs are the cancer of the comic industry (paraphrasing-I might be exaggerating, but barely). The Comics Beat article linked above includes feedback from retailers on sales of OGNs in their store in relation to the other serialized collections and monthlies.

I'm kind of fascinated by the business side of comic publishing. And lately I've been wondering if I'm right to put my priority on monthly floppies as opposed to OGNs. My interest is primarily in non-fantastical, spandex-free, non-corporate comics and, because of my monthlies-first focus, I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of the best stuff.
 

Parch

Member
People who were never into comics are usually impressed with a Vertigo title. If they were into manga, then Vertigo might not be a good suggestion. I suppose it depends on the type of manga they liked.

There are certainly plenty of young, hero type characters in american comics that would appeal to manga fans.
 

Owzers

Member
Dude, stay away. I've been following the floppies and truly, this is a flop of a story. Gerard Way took the concept for one of his MCR albums and decided to expand upon it in comic form but it's absolutely a dud. No characterizations, it's still entirely nonsensical 5/6 issues in, and worst of all, it's just vapid. Becky Cloonan is doing great stuff there but it's a waste for this wannabe MCR album. I feel like he's pandering to fans of his band.

Umbrella Academy was some brilliant stuff, and his unreleased Batman comic seemed on-par, so there's comic talent there, it just ain't showing right now.

I loved Umbrella Academy so much that it's hard to think that i won't give Killjoys a chance, but that chance will probably be a used trade or 99 cent digital sale where i only buy the second issue if i like the first. After reading vol 1 of Umbrella i was worried that the quality would be a one-off, but vol 2 was also great, but maybe the fun is over.
 
Killjoys #1 is one of the comics I read this year and hated so much that it made me angry. And I didn't even have any expectations going in. Actually.. I'd say it was my most-hated comic of the year. Congratulations, Killjoys.

I tried to make myself finish it, 'cause sometimes you can, like, get into a thing eventually. But I only managed to skim the last third. Then I just wanted to get it the hell out of my house as fast as possible until I saw a LCS selling the first issue for double what I paid for it and thought I'd hang on.

And that story I just told you about my adventure with Killjoys #1 is a million times better than Killjoys so, y'know, it's pretty bad.
 
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