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COMICS! |OT| February 2015. No ship girls. Oh, we got a Tank Girl though!

So I went to a Q&A session with Scott McCloud. He's a pretty good at presenting himself and is very interesting. Someone asked him if he had to send 5 books back in time to himself, which ones he would send, he included Hawkguy in them. Hawkguy stays winning
 
So I went to a Q&A session with Scott McCloud. He's a pretty good at presenting himself and is very interesting. Someone asked him if he had to send 5 books back in time to himself, which ones he would send, he included Hawkguy in them. Hawkguy stays winning

I wanna check out his new book. Barnes & Noble already has it.
 

Owzers

Member
I'm trying to finish some of my comixology backlog before resubbing to MU ( and waiting for a deal)...

Batman: Harley and Ivy three issue mini from Paul Dini and Bruce Timm: This was the girly hijinx i was looking for and did not find in the new 52 Harley, whacky adventures with the bonus of Bruce Timm art. The story could have been a little better in the second and third issue but I love the passive aggressive relationship between Harley and Ivy sooooo: random 8/10.
 

Nudull

Banned
Fuuuuuck, I want to go Shock Pop Comiccon this weekend, but I'm nearly broke and would have to sacrifice a few lunches.

Would be worth it to see the myth that is Greg Land in the flesh.
 

Messi

Member
I'm trying to finish some of my comixology backlog before resubbing to MU ( and waiting for a deal)...

Batman: Harley and Ivy three issue mini from Paul Dini and Bruce Timm: This was the girly hijinx i was looking for and did not find in the new 52 Harley, whacky adventures with the bonus of Bruce Timm art. The story could have been a little better in the second and third issue but I love the passive aggressive relationship between Harley and Ivy sooooo: random 8/10.

Loved that mini so much. Agree that the second two issues are weaker but they are still good. The relationship between Harley and Ivy is perfect here. I love Ivy's complete inability to stay mad at Harley and how earnest Harley is at trying to be a good friend and help the team. Unsurprising considering it is Paul Dini. Timms art is stunning as usual.
 
I'm trying to finish some of my comixology backlog before resubbing to MU ( and waiting for a deal)...

Batman: Harley and Ivy three issue mini from Paul Dini and Bruce Timm: This was the girly hijinx i was looking for and did not find in the new 52 Harley, whacky adventures with the bonus of Bruce Timm art. The story could have been a little better in the second and third issue but I love the passive aggressive relationship between Harley and Ivy sooooo: random 8/10.
It was great. And having Timm sneaking in his more lewd stuff into the book was fun to see.
 

Owzers

Member
It was great. And having Timm sneaking in his more lewd stuff into the book was fun to see.

I embraced the lewd.

^^^^ haven't read Bloodspell yet, it's on the shelf of things that are books. I'm trying to temper my expectations based on not loving his pre-new 52 small Zatanna run, but it does sound great.
 

Messi

Member
I embraced the lewd.

^^^^ haven't read Bloodspell yet, it's on the shelf of things that are books. I'm trying to temper my expectations based on not loving his pre-new 52 small Zatanna run, but it does sound great.

It's just a fun read with great art. Free of all storylines/events and such. Maybe it's over too soon, thats my only complaint. Joe Quinones Black Canary and Zatanna are frantastic.
 
Wish they would change it up more on the girly hi-jinks duos. Although Black Canary/Zatanna was very fresh.

Still the best team up is this
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barrin87

Member
Haven't posted here for a while since I haven't been reading too many comics. Been reading more of what I got in the Image Humble Bundle.

The Fuse Volume 1- meh, didn't feel that much more interesting than crime shows on TV beyond the setting.
Deadly Class Volume 1 - Pretty decent
Nailbiter Volume 1 - Much better than I would have expected since I'm not huge into gore type horror.

Getting Seconds and The Sculptor in the mail this week from Amazon and I'm eager to dig into those.
 
Just noticed how many projects Lemire is working on coming up. Hope he doesn't spread too thin. Well when they are collected most of them will likely end up on my shelf...$_$
 
Comics are basically worthless and the only way modern comics are worth anything is artificial scarcity. The Star Wars comics are going to be worthless when it comes to resale value because they were mass produced(Don't have the # on hand but it's up there) and widely available.

The main reason older comics are worth anything is because no one really collected them and they're actually rare and hard to find which drives up the value. Digital availability is also killing the resell market because you can access pretty much anything at the original price.

Collecting comics should be about the enjoyment of the medium not about the resell value.

"Come into my parlor," said the spider to the fly.

;D
 

Messi

Member
Stephen Mooney's art does nothing for me. I really wish they didn't have to have fill in art in Grayson. This month's book was all over the place art wise. The regular art is such a delight.

Also. I have no fucking clue what is happening in this story.
 

Owzers

Member
Alright guys I'm going to get a Galaxy Tab S 10.5" to read comics on.

I dare you to tell me why I shouldn't

I had one and ended up with an ipad air 2....it's a toss up. I had a lot of nitpicky problems with the tab s...with the three tab s's that i had and returned. The screen is amazing and larger than ipad air 2's, it's also marginally lighter despite being larger, and the screen aspect ratio is better for comics than Ipad.

Downside is relatively cheap build quality in that it's all/all? plastic and the capacitive buttons on the side always get pushed by thumbs when holding the tablet in portrait mode. I'd recommend it though with those caveats over the ipad air 2 for comic reading.

I made it all the way to chapter 11 of Evil Within only to throw in the towel, which is what i threatened after every chapter. I don't enjoy the game so much as i want to get through it while wishing i was enjoying the game.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Infinity:

Thanos
just made
Blackbolt
his bitch. And then
Thor
made the
Builder
HIS bitch :eek:
 
Ayy lmao how the fuck did I manage to get banned the week of a new Stray Bullets

And now for a long belated attempt to catch up on a week of comic news. First order of business, this post right here:

I hope this is ok as it is in honor of our dearly departed, JC.

"Thanks mah nigga!"

This post

This. Post.

I stare at the blinking cursor, waiting for words to come out, but they can’t be found. There are no words.

Moving on to comic news, DC relaunch seems cool conceptually. Like maybe they’re gonna break out that dat 90s aesthetic they love so much, but then I saw the Finches are still doing trash Wonder Woman comics and GL will keep being ass and its like “nah man nah we still bout dat life”.

-Bat-Mite and Bizarro could be funny, but who asked for a Doomsday ongoing like for real. Dan Jurgens and Scott Lobdell launching books in 2015, that’s the world we bout to enter fam. They couldn’t find Fabien Nicenza oh whoever from that washed-up veteran squad they assembled for Convergence? If you written any kind of comic before, DC got you, bruh. Even if you didn’t, they’ll put you on Wonder Woman anyway and count it as a point for diversity.

-Patrick Gleason writing his own book, hoping he can break the streak of bad-and-or-boring Batman comics by writer/artists like Tony Daniel, Neal Adams, David Finch, Francis Manuapul, and Cameron Stewart. Speaking of Batgirl writers, Black Canary is hella jocking her style, but Annie Wu is a great artist. Can’t be as boring as Batgirl tho…Brenden Fletcher pls you did that All-Star Flash comic in Wednesday Comics my nigga.

-Really great to see our boy Ed(that is his name) finally cracked the big time on Midnighter, I recognize that cover art anywhere.

-Bryan Hitch got a JL book with the Big 6 and Token. He’s been working on it for years, so he should have the first two issues done by now with a limited amount of inkers. Dream big, ya’ll.

-How the FUCK did Shazam not get an ongoing exactly? While they were filtering though the Convergeance pile of Has-Beens and Never-Was, did they not see they got fuckin’ Jeff Parker and Evan Shanier, team supreme from Flash Gordon, already doing a Captain Marvel book? Its easy, just go up to them and be like “yo, this book ya’ll doing now? We need you to keep doing it. Like, forever. Kthx”

-Real talk, only book I’m legit HYPE about is Ennis/McCrea coming back to Hitman, the finest non-Doom Patrol DC comic ongoing of all-time. I really wonder how you even do a Section Eight 6-issue mini. They’re pretty one joke characters. The kind that do their spots in the gimmick matches, crowd cheers, then they go away. Now they’re in the main event? I’m interested to see what Ennis does with that shit, besides take the piss out of it obviously.

-Giffen/DeMatteis JL will never die tho, thank God for small miracles.

Anyway, what the fuck else happen…A-Force, right? That’s a thing I guess. Superman got a new power/costume, but that got overshadowed by Geoff Johns leaving after that one story. Like he just cleaned up the character in six issues on some Warren Ellis shit and think he can disappear into the night with his cape flowing on some Batman shit. Nigga left the same day that new JMS Superman Vol 3 dropped, on some poetic ish. Like how we live in a world where he got three volumes of that bullshit but Wonder Woman Earth One aint even got a rumored release date on Bleeding Cool tho. I think Isak_Borg stopped by to do his usual thing, namedrop the comicspeoples he talks to and tease some CMX shit that didn’t amount to nothing.

Bendis left X-Men! The next step in Marvel’s destruction of the X-Franchise has come to past. Si Spurrier’s time to step up to the plate and go down with the ship. He’s a skilled writer with an obvious love of X-Men, only problem is he keeps getting stuck on C-tier books starring C-level characters with C-list artists for C(anceled)-sales. Put him on the flagship with somebody dope like Stuart Immonen, and problem solved, superstar writer time.

Finally, lets get to last week’s batch of comics, which were some good ones, let me tell you. Savage Critics ratings do apply.

You know I had to plug Stray Bullets #50 from the jump, right? Sometimes folks, comics will make you angry. “Comics will break your heart”, as the King once said. And sometimes, they just make you so apathetic towards the damn thing that you’ll file them away on your bookshelves and spend weekends during impromptu starring contests with them. You don’t want to read em, think about em, nothing. Fuck ‘em! But then in the back of your head, you think “breh, you live in a world where Stray Bullets still gets published regularly. A perfectly paced crime comic that always gives your money’s worth, always treats violence with consequences, always sounds like a million bucks, always on point with its sequential 8-panel grid storytelling. Like damn b, life aint that bad”. And you feel good, ya know? Real good. You say, “Yeah, imaginary conscience in a made-up fiction of JC’s design, you’re right! I’m gonna read comics and feel good about it!” Then you pick up the latest Green Lantern trade, get halfway through and think, “what the hell am I doing with my life this was the only Saturday I have off fuck Fuck FFFFFFFFUCK”

But as good as Stray Bullets was, and it was EXCELLENT like always, it wasn’t the best of the week. No, I have to give that honor to Hawkeye #21. You can be this late when you’re the hardest working superhero comic being published today. Every single element of the creative team, right on down to the lettering and the coloring choices, are working in complete unison to tell a story filled with thrills and tragedy, tenderness and intrigue, humor and humanity. There’s a honest warmth to Clint/Jessica’s short conversation, a combination of Fraction’s script, Aja’s body language and framing, the deaf reading of words and lips that puts us right into Barton’s perspective in a distinctively comic book way, the color choices as lips kiss and depart. There’s a sequence where the visual iconography of a bike’s tail light disappears into the distance as the coming of vans filled with Tracksuit Draculas approaches dramatically. There’s a sequence of a scared civilian at the door, intersped with flashes of approaching addias and Uzis, drawing closer and closer on his face until the tension is released with a big splash page that’s stylized like a window of the building itself. There’s a sequence in which puts us right in Clint’s perspective after a terrifying ambush. In between black outs of undetermined amount of time, you get brief glimpses of what’s happening. Comics have no motion, no real sound, we only see these important panels that tell a story in some sequential order. By putting us behind Clint’s eyes, its marries that form to function, as Clint and the reader put the still images we’re seeing in order, imagining the motion in-between them to tell a narrative. Its final two pages are powerful, a crushing defeat mixed with fist-pumping optimism. Cathartic victory that only can be bittersweet, and raising the stakes even higher on what should normally be a rah-rah finale.

It is, in all its essentials, an EXCELLENT comic, a perfect comic. The kind of comic that only happens when you combine a writer, artist, colorist, and letterer that have been one of the best in their respective fields for years, and had the time to hone their craft. It is the platonic ideal of the 21st century Marvel superhero comic. Hip and cool, but doesn’t let affectations stand in place of real people. A story of a flawed person trying to be a hero. Like Casanova, what started as a pop done-in-one adventure serial evolved into an experimental genre comic masterpiece that married disparate influences like Edgar Wright, the Rockford Files, and Will Eisner’s Contract with God into something unique and modern. The next issue can come in 2016 for I fuckin’ care if its this good, but I hope it doesn’t cuz I need to read the conclusion like yesterday. Good luck following this shit, Lemire/Perez.

Like anything popular, there are imitators. In the wake of 2011’s Hawkeye have come a string of comics that lift its surface elements but rarely seem to put in the hard work required to build it. Its not enough to get an artist who’s just this side outside the mainstream but just inside the contemporary hipster design sensibility, graft on a chippy inner monologue and a pet animal and call it a day, but books like Black Widow and Secret Avengers seem to think so. You can add Ant-Man #2 to that group, too. Its not bad, not really, there’s just no spark to anything. No life. Another down-on-his-luck Marvel superhero with irreverent jokey narration captions and he ends up adopting a pet at the end, too. Its derivative, and it wasn’t for the inherent likability of Scott Lang, you wouldn’t need to read it. And even then its, $4 bucks, nigga. You aint that likable, man, you’re just OK.

Squirrel Girl #2 is different, tho. Its not pretending to be fun like Nick Spencer comics, it IS fun. It’s a silver age comic done with a modern web comic sensibility. It balances a tricky line between parody and pastiche; between mocking its character and her world and genuinely believing she’s awesome. The kind of stupidly charming book you’re not in a rush to read, and then you pick and think “why the fuck did I wait so long to read this”. Well on its way to stealing the crown of “Just The Most Delightful Damn Thing” from Silver Surfer, real talk. Its GOOD, ya’ll.

Couple things go through your head reading Spawn #250. A) “Wow, 250 issues of Spawn! I didn’t even know they still published this shit in 2015!” and B) “Wow, this comic is trash! Like, REALLY trash! Maybe even impressively trash, maybe? Good use of disposable money there, me”. Its like somebody kidnapped this mothafucka when it was a child and raised it on a steady diet of early Image 90s comics and afternoon television. Like it lived off the reservation, completely unaware of Image’s current creative renaissance and it still thinks its 1992 on some The Village type shit. Did I just spoil the Village for you? Let me spoil this comic for you, too: CRAP!

Superman
…yeah we off that, DROPPED!

Grayson #7
continues to be that one DC book for people who don’t like most of what DC is putting out nowadays. It’s a grounded spy comic, a dense read with great characterizations that imply interesting character backgrounds married to cool Morrison comic booky elements. That said, this is the worst issue they’ve done yet. Fill-in art is real fill-in here, lotta minor storytelling hiccups that start to add up by the end. Its an OK issue to what’s usually better than that.

Star Wars #2 was even better than the first issue, after setting up a string of fireworks, it now gets to start lighting those badboys and giggling as they explode. Big damn hero moments sit alongside hilariously inept Threepio scenes, and Luke starts a developing a real character arc here, in that shaky middle ground between blowing the Death Star but a long way from being a real Jedi. The issue belongs to Darth Vader tho, who frankly hasn’t been this badass in God knows how long. You can practically hear the Imperial March reading this shit, and you’re reminded me why he’s such an iconic villain. That’s the best thing you can say about this Star Wars comic, that it feels like the original trilogy. Hilariously decompressed, yes, and not attempting to break any new ground, most definitely. But through a combination of Aaron’s voices for the cast and knack for pulp material, Cassaday’s realistic characters and widescreen panels, Laura Martin’s rusty colors bringing the world to life, and Eliopoulos’ lettering that makes people talking on a radio and Threepio talking distinctive from one another, it succeeds in crafting a breathless cinematic pulp adventure feel of Star Wars. As totally commercial product that can’t really change any of its principal characters, its about as GOOD as it can realistically be. About 10x as exciting as Brian Wood’s relaunch was, holy hell that was boring.

Lady Killers #2 continues be a perfectly OK genre exercise. Not really a story yet, just a concept. 1950s house wife who’s secretly an assassin. Mostly works as a showcase for Joelle Jones’ sexy women and Laura Allred’s pop colors. They tease some drama for next issue, which might amount to something, might not. Very surface level appeal here.

Two VERY GOOD Grant Morrison scripted comics came out on Wednesday, but illustrated in totally different ways for similar horrific effect. Annihilator is brought to life by Frazier Irving, who goes the route of making it look like some of kind of plastic dollhouse nightmare. He uses odd perspectives and rubbery faces to make the story more artificial, more of a “performance”, which is great for a story-within-a-story that’s happening here. This kind of meta, self-aware ground has been mined by Grant again and again since “The Coyote Gospel”, but its never quite looked like this, and it makes it seem fresh and anew. Meanwhile, Nameless is more of a straightforward boys’ adventure title. Well, “straightforward” for a book that invokes the Occult, dream logic, alien invasions, and really fucked up shit on random subreddits. First issue is very much in the vein of Raiders of the Lost Ark, there’s an in media res opening that showcases the world, who the main character is and what he does on some exciting incident, then switches over to a lot of exposition. The great thing about Raiders of the Lost Ark is that even the exposition scenes surge with energy or have a forward momentum to them, and in Nameless Burnham/Fairbairn keep finding new ways to make all the scene setting visually interesting. There’s a good link to some of Chris’ thought process on how he crafts certain scenes, but in general its really, really strong stuff. I’m in for the ride.

I think Cheska put it best describing Saga #25 as “comfort food”. Every single time you get a new issue of Saga, you’ll get a regular dose of well-defined, visually distinctive characters doing various soap opera in space things, with Hazel’s spoiler-filled narration framing it as an fable that actually happen, and had an ending, and BKV has plans for all this. Fiona Staples is what really makes it tick, of course. Her art makes even the most esoteric or outrageous sci-fi/fantasy design seem accessible and logical. There’s something to be said for a good that always consistently GOOD, in pretty much the same way every time. The dependable anchor of pullists everywhere. All I can hope is Ghüs doesn’t get killed any time soon.

Shaft #3 was GOOD, too, mostly cuz of Bilquis Evely’s evocation of 1970s. I think they got the one good Dynamite colorist on this shit, a muted color palette for that 70s crime movie feel. Chick draws the best noses, which is a weird thing to point out, but its true.

Karen Traviss is writing this anti-GI Joe book, and its just a big ol pile of ponderous, poorly paced garbage. Gotta stop giving Karen Traviss chances, she burned all them bridges. AWFUL! Comix.

Finally, Miracleman #15 came out. Well, technically it came out back in 1988, but Marvel’s reprint is finally here. The most sought after issue of this most sought after legendary title. It’s the comic Mark Millar thinks he’s been making for the last twenty years. Identity Crisis wanted so BAD to be Miracleman #15. SUPER dark, edgy as shit…whole goddamn London gets destroyed, niggas hanging from barbwire on twisted poles, kids being murdered, cats and dogs living together; mass hysteria. The superhero concept taken to its natural conclusion. Alan Moore earns all of, every single bit of it, even the religious side bits of characterization. Marvel edits out the N-word in here which is…bizarre. Of ALL the things to edit in this issue. This is a comic where Marvelman throws a car filled with people in at a Kid Marvelman, where a homophobic slur is on the same page, where dude brags about shitting in skulls, but the N-word was that “nah pls edit think of the children” moment. Shit is still EXCELLENT though, because its Miracleman #15, and even after years of dark-ass superhero comics even by Alan Moore himself, this is still pretty much the apex of that particular strand.

And I think that’s it. I know you’re all been worried about me, or Marvel’s reboot, or DC still releasing Dan Jurgens and Scott Lobdell books on unsuspecting masses in 2015, but rest easy friends. No matter how many bans, censorships, or reboots are out there, there will always be…COMICS!

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ElNarez

Banned
Gonna take umbrage to your X-Men thing, JC. A writer doing a 15-issue run on a book seems to be the new Marvel Standard. X-Force's ending at #15. Secret Avengers's ending at #15. Young Avengers ended at #15. There's probably a lot more, it's A Thing now, you get a year-long run in which you can tell a sort-of more or less complete story and then you put everything neatly back in the box.
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
Gonna take umbrage to your X-Men thing, JC. A writer doing a 15-issue run on a book seems to be the new Marvel Standard. X-Force's ending at #15. Secret Avengers's ending at #15. Young Avengers ended at #15. There's probably a lot more, it's A Thing now, you get a year-long run in which you can tell a sort-of more or less complete story and then you put everything neatly back in the box.
Didnt all the books you said start after AvX?
Its a bit longer...
 

Owzers

Member
JC comes back, i now call him JC instead of Viewtiful because everyone else is doing it even though we damn well know his name is Viewtiful, and now i am having doubts about not dropping Ant-Man.
 
Gonna take umbrage to your X-Men thing, JC. A writer doing a 15-issue run on a book seems to be the new Marvel Standard. X-Force's ending at #15. Secret Avengers's ending at #15. Young Avengers ended at #15. There's probably a lot more, it's A Thing now, you get a year-long run in which you can tell a sort-of more or less complete story and then you put everything neatly back in the box.

The thing all those books have in common? They sell like month old hotcakes. They tell creators to plan for 12-15 issues in case they hit that 20k kiss of death, but if they take off, like Hawkeye or Ms Marvel or Magneto? The sky's the limit.

Well, Secret Wars is the limit, I guess, before they cancel everything and reboot.
 

ElNarez

Banned
Didnt all the books you said start after AvX?

They're all post AvX, yeah, but I think also more importantly post-Hawkguy. It's basically using the same framework of letting a creative team run wild, except with added constraints and sometimes fill-ins to make sure it comes out on time.
 

ElNarez

Banned
The thing all those books have in common? They sell like month old hotcakes. They tell creators to plan for 12-15 issues in case they hit that 20k kiss of death, but if they take off, like Hawkeye or Ms Marvel or Magneto? The sky's the limit.

Well, Secret Wars is the limit, I guess, before they cancel everything and reboot.

In a world where there's two volumes of the KSD Captain Marvel, I cannot believe 20k is a kiss of death. They go in for exactly three TPBs that will be long sellers because people like me will go "oh yeah, Young Avengers' a goddamn modern masterpiece, probably even the only comic of the now, here meaning: not stuck in the mid-to-late 90s like almost every other comic out there". Realistically, I cannot see how a Young Avengers #16 would've gone.
 
Marvel is REALLY trying to make Carol Denvers happen, yo. They got a movie to promote, and diversity quotas to meet. They tried relaunching for the quick boost in sales, variants, totally unearned anniversary issues, event tie-ins....

KSD pls. At this rate they gon have to make Captain Marvel film about Kamala Khan
 
-Really great to see our boy Ed(that is his name) finally cracked the big time on Midnighter, I recognize that cover art anywhere.
which Ed are you talking about haha

-Bryan Hitch got a JL book with the Big 6 and Token. He’s been working on it for years, so he should have the first two issues done by now with a limited amount of inkers. Dream big, ya’ll.
I'm dreaming big. Im saying he's got 4 done.

Anyway, what the fuck else happen…A-Force, right? That’s a thing I guess. Superman got a new power/costume, but that got overshadowed by Geoff Johns leaving after that one story. Like he just cleaned up the character in six issues on some Warren Ellis shit and think he can disappear into the night with his cape flowing on some Batman shit. Nigga left the same day that new JMS Superman Vol 3 dropped, on some poetic ish. Like how we live in a world where he got three volumes of that bullshit but Wonder Woman Earth One aint even got a rumored release date on Bleeding Cool tho.
Times like these could really use the old :lol emoticon

Bendis left X-Men! The next step in Marvel’s destruction of the X-Franchise has come to past. Si Spurrier’s time to step up to the plate and go down with the ship. He’s a skilled writer with an obvious love of X-Men, only problem is he keeps getting stuck on C-tier books starring C-level characters with C-list artists for C(anceled)-sales. Put him on the flagship with somebody dope like Stuart Immonen, and problem solved, superstar writer time.
Simon Spurrier is probably my pick to write X-Men after Bendis. The writing on X-Men Legacy was good and I'd like to see him play with better characters at this disposal.
 
I wanna check out his new book. Barnes & Noble already has it.
Its already out. Im not sure how the staggered the releases are for certain places but it was available at my LCS.

I kind of wonder how much pressure he felt to put out a really great comic. If you're writing landmark books on comics, you better be able to make a good one yourself haha
 
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