that was back when America was Great.
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COMICS! |OT| January 2016. Didn't I promise? We're going home now.
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that was back when America was Great.
I normally like Quietly quite a bit but find his work on New X-Men to be repulsive. Maybe that's what he was going for.
Edit: On second look I don't think this is Quietly. Either way, I think a lot of New X-Men looks gross up until the Riot at Xavier's arc.
Cosmic Marvel barely had any stakes. Who cares about planets being featured when there was a war between super heroes.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Yeah, New X-Men early on had some deadline issues, and they have Igor Kordley already kinda ugly Euro Comic artystyle doing 20 pages in like a weekend? Don't worry, they work the kinks out eventually when they realize Frank Quitely can't do a monthly literally if his job depended on it, and they started assigning artists separate story arcs.
And its good that you read this before Astonishing X-men, since that's kinda the sequel.
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ViewtifulJC
Banned
it's like Geoff Johns Green Lantern comics - I liked it enough to keep reading but I couldn't tell you a single thing about it
#BirdieWasRight
Bill Foster died, Reed cloned Thor, it was tough shit.
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hipsterpants
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Annihilation was pretty good but it's gotten worse since then. The GotG chapters are the best parts though.
Also holy shit Medusa is the worst. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to like her or not but all she seems to do is tell people how she is the queen and how she is in charge. Does she ever get her comeuppance?
Also holy shit Medusa is the worst. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to like her or not but all she seems to do is tell people how she is the queen and how she is in charge. Does she ever get her comeuppance?
Preach. I powered through Annihilation because that reading chart gets posted in like every GAF comic thread and didn't really get the fuss. A year later I started reading Conquest and dropped it after about an issue when I remembered that it's not very good.
My net take away from the ol' cosmic chart was that Annihilation was kind of bland for me outside of I suppose the Drax mini at the start, I actually liked Annihilation Conquest okay for the most part (proto-GotG start, got some Nova in there, and I liked the Phyla Vell stuff okay, though Wraith was laaaaame), the standalone GotG and Nova are solid stuff, the "...of Kings" parts just... didn't really do it for me, and then Thanos Imperative was a nice cap. Literally all I own in print is the GotG-y parts (the Annihilation: Conquest Omnibus, the complete collections for GotG, and Thanos Imperative), and I'm pretty content with that+having read the rest on MU, outside of wishing the Nova stuff was in print as I'd probably pick that up too.
Edit: Cosmic was never my sort of thing in the first place though, to be fair.
Edit: Cosmic was never my sort of thing in the first place though, to be fair.
I just watched Ex Machina. Holy shit. That movie is unnerving, beautiful and touching. Domhnall Gleason and Oscar Isaac were both as amazing as they were in star wars. Especially Issac. Alicia Vikander was incredible. Chills in parts
When Ava puts on clothes for the first time that entire scene gave me chills.
whatsinaname
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That's exactly the subset I own too. (Not the Conquest Omnibus though, just the Star-Lord single issues). Recently sold them in anticipation of the upcoming omnibus.
Freezasaurus
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I saw that when it first hit theaters in the US. Loved it. Easily one of the best films of 2015.
TerminalDogma
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That's about my takeaway of Cosmic Marvel as well. Don't get why people hype up Annihilation so much, I much preferred Conquest (especcially the proto-GotG, as you pointed out). War of Kings was my first real intro to the Inhumans and pretty much sealed my hatred for them (they are all ASSHOLES in that series). I'm digging the ANAD Inhuman series, but it's kind of begrudgingly so. GotG series proper was pretty good (not QUITE as amazing as some make it out to be, but it is good) and Thanos Imperative is a nice ending to both Guardians and Nova.
Speaking of Guardians, after having read through all of 3000 and the first two issues of this new series I've come to the conclusion that Abnett really needs Lanning for this to work. 3000 never really rose beyond being average, and Infinity seems to be picking up the worst parts of 3000 and dressing them up in a new paint. The backup in this latest issue was way better then the regular story. Think I'll just cut my losses and drop this one.
Freezasaurus
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I'm quite sure Japan is working on the solution to that problem as we speak.
They better hurry up and get to Ava levels quick .
Freezasaurus
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Don't you think she was a little too.....murderous?
We could work these things out. Olivia wouldn't harm me. We would be buddies.
Man, 2016 must be what bizarro world feels like. Everyone liking the Bendis Guardians and putting the DnA Guardians in the past cuz Birdie was right or whatever and everyone liking the Earth shit that went on more than the cosmic stuff. 2014 and 2015 was better.
I guess I should hail Bendis, our lord and savior. Bringing franchises that were shit before, and elevate them to the 10th level.
/rant
I guess I should hail Bendis, our lord and savior. Bringing franchises that were shit before, and elevate them to the 10th level.
/rant
Gotta pray to the Bendis four Luke Cage, Miles Morales, Jessica Jones, and our Lord Kitty Pryde.
Batman and the outsiders is dope. Halo was originator of girly Hijinks.
Freezasaurus
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What? No. Ew.
Secret best ANAD writers are Tom King, Jason Aaron, G. Willow Wilson, Al Ewing
I'll still give Bendis a thumbs-up for Invincible Iron Man, tho.
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*passes the psychbat! deed and key to psychbat!'s soul*
good luck
BKatastrophe
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Like I said before, and I'll say it again, the Inhumans stuff is literally the result of years of previous stuff. A whole lot of getting shit on by everyone else on the regular. So to say "does she get her comeuppance" when they've gotten so wrecked previously is a ridiculous statement. But yes, she does.
You also have to look at it from their point of view: Black Bolt was their fucking King. The politics of Attilan were fucking wonky, involving the Genetic Council (something that has long gone by the time War/Realm of Kings occur), Maximus overthrowing shit, other Inhuman clans, and such. They've basically followed him unquestioningly, and Medusa (even though she's his wife) has always been more of an outlier within the Royal Family because she was basically a delinquent when she was younger. Like, even when she spoke for him, people didn't really respect her. Now she has to assume the role of Queen. What kind of position does that put her in? Not a pretty one, for sure. She becomes a much more compassionate and less cold ruler in a later series (Inhuman by Fraction/Soule, which is one of my favorite stories). So yeah, true to form, she develops as a character.
The Inhumans as a franchise is very politics heavy. So, given that you don't care for any of that, you won't like them, and that's fine. Boiling it down to hot garbage just because you don't care is harsh (then again, I'm pretty much the only person who cares about the Inhumans as a whole), but I fully understand why a person wouldn't like them. If you want the Inhumans in a nutshell, I suggest reading Inhumans by Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee, or Inhumans: By Right of Birth by Nocenti and Mougin.
Sounds about right.
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GrandHarrier
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I got bad news for you friend.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I think one Luke Cage is enough.
BKatastrophe
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About to start Earth 2: World's End Vol. 2. One of the best "superheroes fighting the apocalypse" book I've ever read.
Goddamned superheroes man.
Just goddamned superheroes.
Goddamned superheroes man.
Just goddamned superheroes.
Poodlestrike
Banned
BKatastrophe
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GrandHarrier
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I preached how fun this book was as it was coming out. Absolutely loved it.
BKatastrophe
Member
We can love it together, then
GrandHarrier
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BKatastrophe
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Goddamnit Val be less cool. You're taking up all the cool
Well, actually...
Well saying he's not Dick is just unfair
GrandHarrier
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Moments like this were just great because you'd see them scoring wins in this knock down, drag out fight, feel that surge of triumph and then something else from the Apocalyptian steamroller would knock them down. It handled those peaks and valleys really well.
And yeah, that Alan Scott "world of cardboard"-esque punch was amaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing. The work of Jorge Jimenez, who is doing the Earth 2 ongoing currently. I love him.
BKatastrophe
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TheDarkKnight774
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You're right. He's better than them
GrandHarrier
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His Red Robin outfit (the old one with the smooth topped gimp mask) is literally the worst. It's so dumb looking.
TheDarkKnight774
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Yes but I'm talking about the character that had an amazing run for over 100 issues with the amazing Dixon run. Not the nonsense he's become lately with poor writers who don't know how to write him or DC who know what to do with him.
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