ElBoxyBrown
Banned
And now he's playing a mentally ill sociopath with multiple personality disorder.
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COMICS!!! |OT| January 2017 This is the Dawning of the Age of Apocalypse
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ViewtifulJC
Banned
I still randomly think of this post and laugh
I don't have any enjoyment from reading comics monthly, maybe in some cases it's tolerable, but not enjoyable, like instead of pausing a movie to play hearthstone you pause it for a month every ten minutes. Saga 39 and 40 were pretty good but when reading 39 I'd half forgotten what happened in the previous issue and didn't remember the one guy until I saw him again. Wonder Woman 11 is not an installment, it's a speck. While I continue to want to read new comics for hype reasons, it's an inferior experience trying to piece together the story over half a year or year.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Jesus, stanning for Wanted, bashing Rebirth, y'all fucky.
So like literally every other ending to anything ever then.
So like literally every other ending to anything ever then.
it's still the only thing I know about Gotham but it's the only thing I needed to know
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
pretty much
Good guys under control of bad guy, fight for said bad guy
the movie has its moments
MHWilliams
Member
Only thing that hit me like that was Age of Ultron and that was over the course of a week, not months.
Nothing wrong with Rebirth. It kicked off a solid frame for DC Comics. It's what Johns does best.
that movie did not sit right with me. I was in the theatre like did this guy copy the same fight scene from Avengers 1.
Bruh its a comic. gotta fault the writer for that.
It started about 8 years ago, but Irredeemable is nicely self-contained. There is one other series (Incorruptible) that somewhat crosses over with it, but Irredeemable can be read on its own. Like Astro City, the more you know about comic book conventions and tropes the more you'll enjoy it, but the quality is high enough that either way it will be a solid read.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
is there anything everybody hated then a bunch of people said "um actually its good"
DCEU dont count cuz dudes like ElNarez was day one defending Leto's Joker and his "DAMAGED" forehead tattoo
DCEU dont count cuz dudes like ElNarez was day one defending Leto's Joker and his "DAMAGED" forehead tattoo
I can see that. It was not very subtle in its dismissal of the Nu52 and its re-embrace of what came before. That didn't bother me as I preferred DC prior to Nu52 for the most part. Personally, I didn't find it to be putting blame on Moore/Watchmen as much as others did. I adore Watchmen and didn't have an issue with how it was used, but certainly understand how others might.
Certain Zelda games.
echoshifting
Banned
Sam Nova
MHWilliams
Member
Generally that happens when people hate the idea of a character or book, before jumping onboard.
Sam Nova is a good example. The initial response to the Hulk (She-Hulk) book was also quite negative.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
people got over Sam Nova when Dick Ryder came back
now if I told you they brought Bucky Barnes back from the dead as a brainwashed assassin for the soviet union, you'd probably think that was the dumbest fuckin' idea in the world
BUT
it was dope
now if I told you they brought Bucky Barnes back from the dead as a brainwashed assassin for the soviet union, you'd probably think that was the dumbest fuckin' idea in the world
BUT
it was dope
Red Hood Rebirth.
Doom Patrol #1
Sam Nova ANAD
Future Quest titles
Inhumans vs X-men
Cage Mini series
at the top of my head here.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I was thinking more of something people experienced, thought it was wack, and then like some time down the line people came back like "no this is Good actually". Now something you thought was gonna be wack but on day one you knew it wasn't.
like how Blade Runner flopped back in 1981 but now its a rightly hailed, highly influential masterpiece
like how Blade Runner flopped back in 1981 but now its a rightly hailed, highly influential masterpiece
echoshifting
Banned
Disagree. I think it is a great event book.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
the curve for good event books is hilariously lopsided
Flashpoint? I thought it was pretty crap at the time but it seems to be well regarded.
echoshifting
Banned
Oh I've got one. Final Crisis.
I know you hate it still but DKSA had a moment in the sun there
I feel with that there were always vocal defenders and there are still a lot of vocal haters now
Freezasaurus
Member
Oh God, Final Crisis read like a Marvel event. So full of promise for the first few issues, then it jumped the shark by the end.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Zombieland is super overrated and boring. I don't understand the cult following it has.
Freezasaurus
Member
Emma Stone fanboys.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
it probably cant happen in comics since everything that was printed in order for 20+ pages gets an 8/10 nowadays, so what can even be redeemed as good when everything is good apparently
You're the most cynical person on earth.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
"But tbf, its pretty good"
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I actually love the movie but forgot she was in it lol
Justice League must not be printed in order
echoshifting
Banned
True, but I think a change in reputation exactly like that is about as close as you can get. For there to be a shift like JC is talking about, there are always going to be a good number of people who saw why it was good before anyone else, and there are always going to be a good number of people who always dislike it. Revisiting something you disliked is a low reward proposition so people usually don't even bother with another take
Like I may have made a bad joke about it, but I don't understand why we are even entertaining the notion that the Rebirth issue is now widely hated on comicgaf or that people are flip-flopping. Only a few people have even said anything bad about it and it seems to me like most of those people either never really commented on it or have always disliked it. In truth these shifts are uncommon either way
What does happen, though, is the number of people who aren't predisposed to like something are exposed to things due to their prominence and accolades. Those people aren't as likely to enjoy it so the negative reception does increase over time for pretty much everything that ever was, with rare exceptions
I blame Johns for both, though some of it comes from the current ongoings as well.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Final Crisis definitely has problems (cough Mandrak cough), but I would argue that it's sort of the opposite issue that most Marvel events have. There's too much stuff happening, and a lot of it is batshit crazy. Marvel events tend to drag on, stretching maybe 2-3 issues of premise into a line-wide 6+, a problem that's just exacerbated by the delays.
(Obviously excepting Secret Wars here)
Small haul came in today. $23 shipped for all of this. Superman Doomed was the only one I wasn't necessarily needing, since I know reception is pretty mixed on it, but I do want some Superman N52 content and a $50 book for $5 is hard to say no to.
Remind me, you read American Alien yet?
Well said. I think with comics it's fairly rare to change opinions on singular issues/books over time. I know that for me I only reread certain things (Watchmen, JLI, DKR, Astro City, etc...) and that means that I'm only rereading what I love, which is unlikely to change. Without rereading books that I enjoyed or disliked there is no real chance that I'll chance my opinions on them. With movies I find it a bit more common that I'll change my views. The callbacks that seemed like cute additions to The Force Awakens the first time seemed fairly forced and overdone the second time, for example.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers is still a great series.
flaxknuckles
Member
So I just realized that the S shield on the Superwoman comic covers is right at the end of the title spelling Superwomans. So
then right? Pleeeeeesssssee
Lois is coming back
Freezasaurus
Member
Sooooooo, they'll basically get nothing that they want.
They also want Coates off Black Panther.
echoshifting
Banned
Dr. Strange is interesting now
Oh no
Oh no
Yes I did! Loved it, too. Only other N52-era Superman stuff I have is Superman Men of Tomorrow (Geoff Johns) and Adventures of Superman Vol 1.
SSoV was so good.
A lot of them pretty much refuse to accept anything that's isn't trying to copy their favorite run of a character or stroke their ego.
echoshifting
Banned
I bet they are loving IvX then
I had to see a doctor about that erection
I had to see a doctor about that erection