Tawney Bomb
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COMICS! |OT| June 2015. Alright fanboys, it's time to pick a side once and for all.
- Thread starter Spike Spiegel
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What's wrong with the currently revealed post secret wars books?
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Well what do you think are bad ideas?
It's not a reboot anyways. They're just deleting the Ultimate universe (took long enough) and bringing what they feel is worth saving to the main universe.
echoshifting
Banned
Sounds like a pretty boring way to choose your pulls, sticking with whatever is "normal." But hey to each their own.
GrandHarrier
Member
Some people enjoy standard superheroic stories.
Again, what's wrong with the currently revealed post secret wars books?
Babs Tarr is pretty awesome
echoshifting
Banned
And that's fine. Like I said to each their own. But are we talking about types of stories or just team makeups? Do we really have much indication yet from ANAD what types of stories they're going to be telling in these books?
GrandHarrier
Member
If you're a Batman reader who just wants to see Bruce beating ass and detectiving then the upcoming run could be off putting. Same for the Marvel stuff. States of change and transition can be worrying for someone who is used to a certain rhythm of storytelling.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
superhero fans and change, so scary!
Yuuuuup. Change is good sometimes.
GrandHarrier
Member
The flip side is that not all change is for the better.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
see: the Nu52
Wasn't that freaking amazing? I went in knowing next to nothing, and when I finished it I felt like it was the best image book of the month.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Yeah, that does seem to be the case. I'm just enjoying the story Hickman's telling - I didn't expect things to change around too much in the aftermath.
Tawney Bomb
Member
Ain't that the truth.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Ok, those Game of Thrones spoilers are fucked up and I've read the books.
echoshifting
Banned
True. However! Let's return to the original comment.
First of all, of course there's going to be some standard fare in the post-SW world. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say there is going to be a "normal" Spider-Man book, for example. So for even the most conservative reader to hold back entirely on a pull box because of a belief that there isn't going to be enough of this material doesn't make sense to me.
Bengraven expresses a desire...maybe not a desire, at least a prediction...that "some" of these books, which are really bad ideas (no stated examples), will fail and be replaced with whatever is normal for those characters. So why can't we have both? Isn't a healthy DC or Marvel one that is satisfying both the conservative reader and the reader who is always looking for something even a little bit different?
New 52 was what got me back into comics. I am proof that it works.
echoshifting
Banned
GrandHarrier
Member
And yet it's given us some of the absolute best, consistent runs on characters: re: Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Lemire Green Arrow, etc.
:mjcry
What if I didn't walk into that comic shop in Florida? What if the guy behind the counter hadn't sold me on Snyder Batman and Saga? I wouldn't be here and you guys would be able to talk about comics books. Absolutely disgusting.
You forgot Catwoman
You forgot Catwoman
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
The true GOAT of the Nu52.
As for me, Morrison's Batman and Robin got me back into comics, though the Nu52 was already a few months underway at that point.
GrandHarrier
Member
We should know for sure with the solicitations in July, as those will be the October issues which will be the new Marvel #1s.
I agree completely. All I knew about it was that Robinson was writing, I had no clue the narrative was going to be structured that way at all. Just a brilliant comic from start to end.
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
Batman was better before new 52.
this is an OT comics thread tier post!
you mean pre Snyder? or just pre 52? He's been on it for a while, hasn't he?
EDIT: ah wait, that was detective. Morrison's run ended at that point IIRC. Which...well, it's hard for anyone to run up to that one.
I don't want to spoil it, but the best comparison I can think of is that it's the comic version of Clerks + Birdman.
BuddyJoeHooker
Member
Spidey was confused by all the feels towards the end and missed his own red head.
Good book though.
Yeah I think that Birdman comparison is the best way to describe it. Basically you just need to read and experience it.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
I believe it's an on-going webcomic.
Seriously people give it a shot. I needed that book last night after all the capes stuff. The dialogue was incredibly organic and fun. It's the perfect book for people who enjoy the industry.
Edit: As another thought while I'm running thinking about the book, I think it captured that mentality that all the young people in the 90s had. This book is definitely for the MTV, Beavis & Butthead crew that are now floating around 25 years later becoming the people they didn't want to be.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Ongoing. It's published on DeviantArt first. The first two have been published in trade already, third is due out in September.
Ongoing webcomic that he is now publishing. Nowhere near finished by his own plan.
He also redoes loads of the art for the trades. Which is a big improvement imo. It had been quite a while since the first volume and he improved loads.
Sejic says his story has 20 chapters mapped out split into 4 five chapter sections. Each section focuses on one of the couples in the group of friends. Ally and Lisa being the main ones.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I did not know this tidbit; I'm staying away from the web comics to save myself for the trades. Just took for granted that the art is as spectacular as it is.
KoruptData
Member
N52 also got me into comics.
Right is the new art. Not even the most stark difference
You should just wait for the trades. You are getting the best experience and you have some great stuff coming up.
TetraxShards
Member
I read lots of kids' comics like Marvel UK Transformers and stuff like Power Rangers when I was very young, but the Marvel Collector's Editions made me a long-term fan of comics.
I still have this:
They were UK reprints that were about two years behind the US, though they have caught up to about a year. Astonishing Spider-Man is well ahead of the others now, it's on Spider-Verse and most of the other books are on Original Sin tie-ins.
Titan just got into the game as well since they are doing DC New 52 reprint books, they have three Batman books, Justice League Trinity and Green Arrow/The Flash.
I've been into comics ever since, apart from a short break after Secret Invasion due to no job.
I still have this:
They were UK reprints that were about two years behind the US, though they have caught up to about a year. Astonishing Spider-Man is well ahead of the others now, it's on Spider-Verse and most of the other books are on Original Sin tie-ins.
Titan just got into the game as well since they are doing DC New 52 reprint books, they have three Batman books, Justice League Trinity and Green Arrow/The Flash.
I've been into comics ever since, apart from a short break after Secret Invasion due to no job.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I think you mean left.
And yeah. I know if I read the webcomics I'll end up putting off buying the trades indefinitely, so I'm not going to do that. Sejic deserves all my money for this fantastic work.
Tizoc
Member
Authors who worked on Batman minis and series include
Greg Rucka
Ed Bru
Grant Morrison
To name a few, got any other notable writers to mention SJ?
Manmademan
Member
I don't think so. "Marvel Now" seems to have started a strategy where books consist of self contained "arcs" of 15-40 issues or so, that close out then relaunch with different branding.
Makes it easier for readers to determine jumping on and jumping off points, and provides marvel with lots of #1s to put on shelves.
Yeah I did mean the left lol.
Most seem to binge all of it when they read the webcomics. I have bought all the trades and the comixology version because I am a nutter. But I agree he deserves all the sales he can get.
The most recent issue of Death Vigil was incredible too. Only one issue left
