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COMICS! |OT| March 2013. Pinching Dr. Banner? Bad idea; Hulk pinches you back.
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GrandHarrier
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I imagine that if Batman Inc continues past 12 it'd be more like Outsiders v2.0
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I was going to say DLs were working but spoke to soon. One stopped right in the middle. :/
Seems like the best bet is to go through yours "My Comics" purchases page. Anything that's missing that you know you "bought" is under Jank Arrest and won't be downloadable. Everything seems to be going okay.
I bet they do this for .1's someday...
Seems like the best bet is to go through yours "My Comics" purchases page. Anything that's missing that you know you "bought" is under Jank Arrest and won't be downloadable. Everything seems to be going okay.
I bet they do this for .1's someday...
Downloads are working fine for me now, but they didn't record like 40 of the ones I 'purchased'. Hopefully they can handle the load when they go live again.
109 Threshold 2 $3.99 DC 18,389
112 Phantom Stranger 5 $2.99 DC 18,032
128 Legion of Super Heroes 17 $2.99 DC 16,242
I didn't know things were this bad at the tail end. Batman Inc #12 should have 50 covers, each with a different member on them. Red She Hulk struggling too.
DC's June stuff looks like it should be really strong though in Superman Unchained, Superman Batman, the GL relaunch with a new Larfleeze book that escaped Threshold's tanking. Trinity of Sin : Pandora might do well based on event hype.
Shin Johnpv
Member
It's funny to me how polar opposite this board is, compared to the LCS's and readers in my area. I know this is all anecdotal evidence and such but it's like the exact opposite of ComicGAF. Just in general things seem much more evenly spaced across the big two. I find much less hyperbole and way more people who like/read both.
The Marvel koolaid at ComicGAF is powerfully strong though.
When you finish reading 34 issues of Rotworld you don't come out the same person as you started. It changes you. It involves swearing and remorse. Imagine AvX going for 34 issues...
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I saw some picture of when Superboy died in Infinite Crisis and it reminded me why I'm uninterested in DC. Decades of stuff just flung off the table.
I don't think it's "kool aid" to have that opinion, to be honest. It was a fundamental "BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. WHOA, BACK UP" move for the company and I don't have to be a zombie to say "Yeah, no thanks."
I had no body hair 24 issues ago. Now... I don't even know, man.
Affeinvasion
Member
Marvel Now has been superior in every way to new 52. My biggest reason for jumping off the DC train though had to do with the crazy editorial decisions that most LCS guys are completely oblivious to. Also Death of the Family awful. Literally nothing happened.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Yeah, I don't see that as kool aid. It's not like I don't repeatedly try out DC books all the time, in hopes that they'll wow me.
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
whoa nice
Young Justice was good, they should have kept it
I don't think I care about any of that new June stuff except the Jae Lee art
phazedplasma
Member
I think was buying more DC books than Marvel during the beginnings of the new 52. I have steadily dropped all but:
Wonder Woman
Dial H (will probably get cancelled :\ )
Batwoman
Batman Inc (ending this year)
Batman (on the chopping block)
Wonder Woman
Dial H (will probably get cancelled :\ )
Batwoman
Batman Inc (ending this year)
Batman (on the chopping block)
slightconfuse
Banned
MArvel NOw has been kicking major ass.
only DC books i care about are batman, batman and robin , eonder womana nd green arrow
only DC books i care about are batman, batman and robin , eonder womana nd green arrow
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
It sounds like I really need to read Dial H.
HashtagNoKoolAid
HashtagNoKoolAid
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
this Koolaid thing might really be a thing with all of this Hawkguy now being a thing
You really should.
Hypertrooper
Member
Hey guys,
I am trying to sync my Marvel.com account with my Comixology account, but somehow it is not working. (It says my account and password is invalid) I do not even have access to my digital comics at the marvel.com store, either. Instead to link me to comicstore.marvel.com/my-comics, it redirects me to the front page comicstore.marvel.com. Could it be an aftermath from the free issue chaos? I registered my Marvel account today to redeem my digital comic codes, I got with the Marvel now comics.
I am trying to sync my Marvel.com account with my Comixology account, but somehow it is not working. (It says my account and password is invalid) I do not even have access to my digital comics at the marvel.com store, either. Instead to link me to comicstore.marvel.com/my-comics, it redirects me to the front page comicstore.marvel.com. Could it be an aftermath from the free issue chaos? I registered my Marvel account today to redeem my digital comic codes, I got with the Marvel now comics.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I'd say that's a pretty safe bet. The Comixology support account (@cmxsupport) has been repeatedly telling people "not at 100%" this morning
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Did it get better? It started as lameballs Aquaman jokes and lazy Johnsiolence.
slightconfuse
Banned
throne of atlantis and the black manta arc were pretty good
That was only the first issue or two. We've moved past the Aquaman eating fish n chips joke.
Spike Spiegel
Member
Wasn't the Aquaman series already being developed coming out of Brightest Day?
GrandHarrier
Member
You can only get shouted down so many times before you stop caring enough to argue against the popular opinion of where the discussion is happening. My area, for example is pretty evenly split Marvel and DC bias though.
About the same quality as Justice League currently is too, or how his recent Flash run was. Black Manta arc was indeed better than Trench-eating-people-until-they-go-away arc, but Throne of Atlantis crossover merged the quality of the titles and issue #17 after the crossover, the quality did not jump back up. I'm still picking it up and mostly enjoying it, apart from #17 as mentioned. The Black Manta arc brought in a team dynamic that Johns did well playing off of, though at the expense of making Aquaman seem angry and a little boring.
Dial H is bizarre but fun, started rereading the first 3 issues so i can progress through the rest.
I've been championing Aquaman forever, but no one listens to me.
My pull list is pretty evenly divided between the two since Marvel Now started. I keep trying to figure out why folks consider Marvel so much more superior. It always just feels like the same shit to me: good and bad on both sides. *shrug*
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I've been championing Aquaman forever, but no one listens to me.
My pull list is pretty evenly divided between the two since Marvel Now started. I keep trying to figure out why folks consider Marvel so much more superior. It always just feels like the same shit to me: good and bad on both sides. *shrug*
Except one of them didn't like at decades of cool shit and go:
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GrandHarrier
Member
One more day? Civil War, Secret Invasion cleaning up the mess?
Despite the "reboots" there is a direct line from Precrisis to post crisis to flashpoint to New 52. It all "still happened."
I suppose so.
Maybe that's it: I didn't start reading comics till the tail end before the New 52, so I'm not as upset at losing the way things used to be. I just figure they can make new cool shit. Or bring the old cool shit back. As long as I enjoy the books, doesn't matter to me either way.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Fantomex? Claremont's Excalibur mythology? Even the New friggin' Universe? There are a zillion examples of great ideas being used as a springboard for new stories in the MU. DC took away that opportunity forever.
Retconning individual storylines is not the same thing as pulling the tablecloth out from under decades of continuity for an entire universe.
what exactly did secret invasion and civil war reboot?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Yeah, I think "retcons" are very different than "reboots". DC literally restarted the universe.
slightconfuse
Banned
nothing. in fact they both had consequces had major impact on the MU. Initiative lasted till siege. and Norman osborn became king of the world after SI.
GrandHarrier
Member
Secret Invasion "fixed" Civil Wars mess. LolImASkrull to fix deaths / stupid actions.
I would have been happier if they reimagined the DC Universe from scratch as opposed to the tepid " some stuff stays, some doesn't." Some books continue their plotlines like normal, some are starting over, some characters are gone, some aren't, Action Comics starts with his younger days, Superman doesn't. Justice League starts sometime early? Batman doesn't.
And maybe there just isn't a good time to start every franchise from scratch, but maybbbbbbbe that's because you shouldn't do that in the first place.
And maybe there just isn't a good time to start every franchise from scratch, but maybbbbbbbe that's because you shouldn't do that in the first place.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
So true. I've been going through some of the 1's I downloaded and, yeah, huge ramifications all the way around, in ways that still resonate to the present day.
secret invasion didnt fix anything. and those dead from civil war im pretty sure are still dead. unless bill foster is walking around somewhere alive
slightconfuse
Banned
no it didnt the only person who was a skull was hank pym. and he built the thor clone that killed Goliath. in fact it made it easer for the skrulls to invade if anything. there was no big swerve.
all the people the died in civil war are dead.
hell if you read avengers academy speedball is still dealing with the aftermath. the only way he could use his power for a while was to be in a suilt lined with spikes to feel pain. there were many consequences to civil war and secret invasion did nothing but make more consequences.
Doesn't feel that way when I look at the Green Lantern and Batman books!
GrandHarrier
Member
The events that led up to COIE still happened. They had to, to cause COIE. The events leading up to Flashpoint still happened. They had to, to cause Flashpoint. New 52 can trace its lineage and story line all the way back to the beginning. Everything still "happened". Why does the restart suddenly nullify that?
Also, anyone who was into DC between COIE and Flashpoint was enjoying the 2nd of 3 "rebooted universes". They weren't even fans of the original. Or were but were enjoying a rebooted universe. So, why was the 2nd good but the 3rd not? Why was the 2nd reboot okay but the 3rd not?
crimsonspider89
Banned
Difference is the other reboots did not change things as drastically as this one did and left large portion of character history in tact which this one did not.
I dropped DC with the reboot. Ruined all my pull list completely.
I dropped DC with the reboot. Ruined all my pull list completely.
GrandHarrier
Member
You are joking if you think COIE didn't drastically change characters history.
The simple truth is: If you like DC at all in the past you probably liked a rebooted version (anything 1985 onwards). So why people can accept that reboot but not this one is just plain bizarre.
Shin Johnpv
Member
WHAT???
COIE changed MAJOR things. Lex Luthor for instance was basically a new character. So Wally West was now the only Flash, no Jay or Barry. Superman's origin was modified, his parents were now alive. I mean there were a ton of changes from COIE, we could be here all day listing them.
Father_Brain
Banned
Wally being Flash was a result of Barry's death during CoIE. It had nothing to do with any continuity changes, as Barry's career was still in continuity (and Jay was added to the main DCU continuity).
New 52 completely jettisoned nearly all past continuity not tied to the Green Lantern and Batman franchises, and still made significant changes to the latter. Even COIE wasn't that drastic.
GrandHarrier
Member
lolno? Crisis on Infinite Earths created a new single universe with a new history.
Luckily there is more of it! Also check out Young Avengers #1 and #2 by Gillen. #1 didn't completely sell me on it, but #2 finished the job.
crimsonspider89
Banned
The changes were due to the story and not the reboot where new 52 is due to the reboot.
And the COIE reboot was made to where if needed it could be undone.
Also, only superman story that ever interested me was his death.
And Marvel accomplished what DC did with a hard reboot with just Marvel NOW. Nu52 is a mess. Half the histories don't make sense.
Plus the redesigns are horrendous.
And the COIE reboot was made to where if needed it could be undone.
Also, only superman story that ever interested me was his death.
And Marvel accomplished what DC did with a hard reboot with just Marvel NOW. Nu52 is a mess. Half the histories don't make sense.
Plus the redesigns are horrendous.
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