Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
'Nuff said. Just kidding, everybody freak the fuck out over a new Peter Milligan DOOP book!
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COMICS! |OT| March 2014. Longshot and Domino are hogging all the four-leaf clovers!
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'Nuff said. Just kidding, everybody freak the fuck out over a new Peter Milligan DOOP book!
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
And this is bad how?
Meh. I thought
Lamaze death had a decent impact, but still kinda sloppy with the panel of exposition right before to let us all know why it would even make sense.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Saturday morning cartoon-breakfast cereal Doop is great. His head-hemorrhoids look way less aggressive.
slightconfuse
Banned
Mangus robot Fighter was super Dope this week.
Gold key stuff has been fun so far.
Gold key stuff has been fun so far.
Carol is Captain Marvel. Kamala is gonna go by Ms. Marvel I suppose.
CapNBritain
Member
Man, reading DC comics on a 2 month lag (DC comics take 2 months to drop in price on comixology) makes it hard to participate in these discussions =(
While there was a lot to love in Superior, I can't say it is the best written/drawn/crafted comic in the world. It's just got a great plot that has been building for a while.
BTW, with Secret Avengers joining the fun, do you think Marvel is investing heavily in funny, off-kilter comics? I mean Hawkguy, Superior Foes, She-Hulk... it feels like an embarassment of riches!
Is there anyone here that's primarily a digital reader and wants to work out a partnership regarding Marvel digital codes? I never use mine, and seems like kind of a waste not to utilize them. I'd be willing to sell them each week for $1 each, I almost always go my LCS on Wednesdays.
Marvel titles I pick up:
Captain Marvel
Ms. Marvel
Moon Knight
Superior Spider-Man
Secret Avengers
Black Widow
Guardians of the Galaxy
She-Hulk
PM me if you're interested!
Marvel titles I pick up:
Captain Marvel
Ms. Marvel
Moon Knight
Superior Spider-Man
Secret Avengers
Black Widow
Guardians of the Galaxy
She-Hulk
PM me if you're interested!
Anticitizen One
Banned
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Turok was Turwack but Magnus was really super.
Batman's cover was better this month. Also Batman's paper/cover quality is amazing.
comedy bomb
Banned
Spock's costume reminds me of the very first Spider-Man movie concept art drawn by Alex Ross.
Finished up reading through the first complete collection of Immortal Iron Fist last night. I really, really liked it. Can't wait for the 2nd half to hurry up and come out!
I also went ahead and placed a preorder for the Wolverine and the X-men Omnibus. Though this got me thinking: should I be using some place other than Amazon for comics? They seem to have an okay discount, but I never really looked into my other options too heavily. Only talking (physical) trades/omnibus's, whatever. Oh, and is there anything else I need/should get to compliment the run if I've already read I think all of the Uncanny X-men run schism on (have a friend who's a big fan, so I borrowed a ton)?
And just out of curiosity, has X-Force ever been decent? The closest I've come to reading any of it is X-Statix, which doesn't really count, but the concept is "a team of X-men doing secret darker black ops stuff", right? Always sounded a little lame to me, haha. And I've actually read the first one or two trades of Wolverine and the X-men, and I remember even the comic recognizing how awkward it was that Wolverine was still trying to have that team alongside the school stuff. I dunno, just kind of curious.
I also went ahead and placed a preorder for the Wolverine and the X-men Omnibus. Though this got me thinking: should I be using some place other than Amazon for comics? They seem to have an okay discount, but I never really looked into my other options too heavily. Only talking (physical) trades/omnibus's, whatever. Oh, and is there anything else I need/should get to compliment the run if I've already read I think all of the Uncanny X-men run schism on (have a friend who's a big fan, so I borrowed a ton)?
And just out of curiosity, has X-Force ever been decent? The closest I've come to reading any of it is X-Statix, which doesn't really count, but the concept is "a team of X-men doing secret darker black ops stuff", right? Always sounded a little lame to me, haha. And I've actually read the first one or two trades of Wolverine and the X-men, and I remember even the comic recognizing how awkward it was that Wolverine was still trying to have that team alongside the school stuff. I dunno, just kind of curious.
echoshifting
Banned
I recently finished the second volume of X-Force and enjoyed it quite a bit. Not as much as Uncanny X-Force, which is probably one of the greatest X-franchise runs of all time, but it does provide a lot of the setup for that series. I'm getting ready for a third read of UXF and looking forward to having that added context.
Definitely a guilty pleasure, and it is heavy on crossovers, but I'd say it's worth sampling at least.
Definitely a guilty pleasure, and it is heavy on crossovers, but I'd say it's worth sampling at least.
KoruptData
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I'll start with the art.
Greg Cupullos art is always top notch. There is no digital here. This is all pencil and paper. The guy puts in the hours. In this issue the attention to detail is incredible. The faces, background characters, the clouds, the city, the lightning and man oh man, the rain. I've never seen rain this good. He even joked on Twitter that he drew this issue from his shower for inspiration. The splash pages and homages to past Batmans are amazing.
Next we have Miki's inks which are always consistently great. Guy puts the black in all the right places. Then you turn it over to FCO and he tells a story within a story. Zero Year started off, bright and colorful and full of hope. As you read each issue, those colors have been dwindling down into the darkness that we all know Gotham becomes. Then the colors for the flashbacks are done with a very filtered dream like sequence that captures the mood perfectly.
Then we have Snyders take on young Bruce and Batman. I love Snyders work on his previous arcs but let's face it, he was writing someone else's Batman in his own setting. In Zero Year, Snyder is writing his own unique Bruce/Batman that we have never seen before while carefully interweaving all the great Batmans before him. He is not saying this is the definite version of Batmans origin by ME, but is writing it in a way that's says this is the definite version of Batmans origin done by me and all the other great writers before him.
His Bruce is young and not the great mind he develops to be. He is not the ultra sharp brain that you get in Batman RIP. He is edgy, cocky, foul mouthed, overly emotional and still unsure of himself. He is learning about trust, he is learning about failure. He is learning that actions have consequences. He has all the raw skills but none of it is developed.
This issue really shows all of this together. You finally get to learn about the Tokyo Moon from the beginning of the arc and how that is likely the origin of the Bat signal. You learn what happens when he didn't take the phone call from Alfred and how that affected Dr. Death. Then you get too see a Riddler that who have not really seen before and you know will test Bruce into the intellectual mastermind we know he becomes.
This is a series that will be talked about years from now.
ThyMusicMan
Member
Well said Korupt..
I'm gona meet Snyder at C2E2,, I want him to sign some Zero Year books,, idk what books or how many they'll usually sign? But to me imo its god tier shit. #29 is so far one of my fav issues in comics period (only been into comics a year or so)
I'm gona meet Snyder at C2E2,, I want him to sign some Zero Year books,, idk what books or how many they'll usually sign? But to me imo its god tier shit. #29 is so far one of my fav issues in comics period (only been into comics a year or so)
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Capullo is the hardest working guy at DC, easily. His pencils are phenomenal and he busts his ass to get that book out every month (missing only like 2.5 issues so far) with a maintained quality. The billboard scene in Zero Year is one of my favorite Batman images of all time thanks to Capullo.
I'd forget about X-force and buy the Uncanny X-Force omnibus, especially since it's on sale currently at instocktrades.com, which is also the place to buy trades. Some trades are half off on release week at ist, usually omnibus collections, WATXM will most likely be half off on release week there too. Shipping is free in the U.S. for orders $50 and above. Schism should be all that's really needed for WATXM.
edit: Uncanny X-Force was last week at 50%, but it's still 45% off this month due to a marvel special at IST.
I read some comics today:
Secret Avengers #1 - I wasn't expecting it to be so lighthearted, but I like me some lightheartedness.
Hawkeye #16 and #17 - The art in this book is so damn good. Both Aja and Wu are doing top-notch work. #17 was a sweet and adorable issue. My only wish is that it actually came out during the holidays.
Daredevil Road Warrior #3 - I've been enjoying these, but I'm ready for some
hijinks.
Black Science #1 and #2 - I wasn't feeling it at first when I thought the setting was just going to be the giant sea creature dimension. Once it turned into Sliders, I was completely on board.
I also just got a shipping confirmation from IST. Chew Omnivores 2 + 3, Zero TP, and FBP TP will be mine soon.
Secret Avengers #1 - I wasn't expecting it to be so lighthearted, but I like me some lightheartedness.
Hawkeye #16 and #17 - The art in this book is so damn good. Both Aja and Wu are doing top-notch work. #17 was a sweet and adorable issue. My only wish is that it actually came out during the holidays.
Daredevil Road Warrior #3 - I've been enjoying these, but I'm ready for some
San Fran
Black Science #1 and #2 - I wasn't feeling it at first when I thought the setting was just going to be the giant sea creature dimension. Once it turned into Sliders, I was completely on board.
I also just got a shipping confirmation from IST. Chew Omnivores 2 + 3, Zero TP, and FBP TP will be mine soon.
KoruptData
Member
I imagine he will only sign one or two things since his line will probably be huge. Get issue 21 signed. Just be happy you get to meet him.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
If Capullo is there, make sure you meet him. He's the fucking man, and he looks incredibly intimidating, but he was one of the most sincere artists I've ever met.
if you liked death of the family you'll probably like Zero Year too, there's no real drop off in quality outside of issue #28 which is a batman eternal preview issue.
phazedplasma
Member
I'll probably get the year zero trade when it comes out in 3 years. If I remember it exists.
ThyMusicMan
Member
Yeah that's what I was thinking,, and yeah I was planning on #21 the start Zero Year,, But #29 was sooo good haha.
It's easily worth it. There's no part of this arc that isn't amazing.
ThyMusicMan
Member
As of now he's not,, fuck I wish!
Tizoc
Member
I considered buying it (I love Mark Waid's writting) but I'm on a budget now
Save up for it
At least try to get Vol. 1, it'll put a smile on your face and make DD become your fav. Marvel character.Before Waid's run I didn't care much for him, but then Waid came and made him a fun character yet at the same time kept the dark tone that past writers would write the series in.
Not a one. Some books do a flash back to tie in with a zero year event, I won't say which, but none of them are required reading or affect the any of the plots in any way.
nope, outside of Batman #28 existing solely to set-up Batman Eternal and nothing to do with zero year as i said, the rest of Zero Year can be read alone. There's been some other titles that have hopped along with the Zero Year "event" but they haven't affected Batman's regular title. It's not a crossover, and it's not as bad as Death of the Family was with characters popping in to tell Bruce all the stuff that's been going on in their solo crossover title.
TetraxShards
Member
There were Zero Year tie-ins in other books but they are not required at all.
Great. I'll jump in later today.
Either getting a new tablet or making a run to the comic book shop.
slightconfuse
Banned
Zero year is synder doing black mirror for Bruce.
It threw me for a loop when I met Doug Mahnke last year and he looked like a body builder. He was super chill though and was thrilled when I told him how much I dug the design for Simon Baz.
ThyMusicMan
Member
Think I'm gonna order this Batman #21 Black & White variant (1:100) to get signed by Snyder at C2E2. Might as well do it right!? Lol
Edit: Ordered ! I've seen it going for $50+. Got it for $30. Psyched to get this signed,, it'll look great with a silver signature.
Edit: Ordered ! I've seen it going for $50+. Got it for $30. Psyched to get this signed,, it'll look great with a silver signature.
There is a DoFP HC? What in the world is in it? That story was literally two issues long.
I guess having that as a final panel on her 1st issue just felt weird and a twist on the expectations from the media attention the character got - it'll probably flow better as a story after enough issues to compile a paperback book, I guess.
As a first issue, even if I mostly skimmed it, it gave off an impression of something always being slightly out of reach for Kamala starting with page 1, although how heavy-handed that might have been is not for some european white guy like myself to say.
I do hope she does become more comfortable in her skin in future issues, that
it reflects on her Marvel persona's appearance
BTW, was there some particular event to trigger Carol's change from Ms to Captain along with the uniform - along with this recent passing of the torch while at it?...
And since I've been riding a temporary classic Captain Marvel microobcession recently and passed by the comic shop today, since they had a thick ol' character showcase volume in black and white I bought that (might as well put some money where my mind is) - it's interesting to see a few plot points that could have been salvaged (even if it'll all post-Fawcett stuff), like Sivana having ressurected Teth-Adam, who actually died in his 1st story (and some animated retellings), opening the way to a lot of attention he got in more recent years - still plenty of the 500 pages to go through though.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Captain Marvel: Hey, Carol's hair isn't totally shit! Not totally sold this is an interesting book, especially when I think DeConnick writes some damn fine Iron Man funnily enough as this issue reminded me, but they're obviousy fleeting cast members and the space drama seems ripped right from Firefly.
X-Force: I don't think I like this? The core plot is interesting but the characters are just endless monologues which go nowhere and often dont even sound like themselves. Also I guess I missed something with Hope? Also feels like the english is often broken. Seems to be a problem creeping into a few Marvel books these days. Shitty editors?
Secret Avengers: I'm not sure if this is actually funny or just sort of trying to be in that same sphere as Hawkguy. Dunno. Loathe the cover-art, but then inside is fairly normal.
Avengers Undercover: God why couldn't Hazmat have died last series, she's the WORST *eats burger like an insane animal* Pretty good though.
Superior Foes: This really is a legendary run. Has left Hawkguy in the dust since thats just filler-central while this is just constantly pushing forward hilariously.
X-Force: I don't think I like this? The core plot is interesting but the characters are just endless monologues which go nowhere and often dont even sound like themselves. Also I guess I missed something with Hope? Also feels like the english is often broken. Seems to be a problem creeping into a few Marvel books these days. Shitty editors?
Secret Avengers: I'm not sure if this is actually funny or just sort of trying to be in that same sphere as Hawkguy. Dunno. Loathe the cover-art, but then inside is fairly normal.
Avengers Undercover: God why couldn't Hazmat have died last series, she's the WORST *eats burger like an insane animal* Pretty good though.
Superior Foes: This really is a legendary run. Has left Hawkguy in the dust since thats just filler-central while this is just constantly pushing forward hilariously.
OKAY LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER I MUST ADD TO THE LIST!
Can't wait to see him go down, by Otto's "hands", hopefully.
KoruptData
Member
Think I'm gonna order this Batman #21 Black & White variant (1:100) to get signed by Snyder at C2E2. Might as well do it right!? Lol
Edit: Ordered ! I've seen it going for $50+. Got it for $30. Psyched to get this signed,, it'll look great with a silver signature.
If you are dead set on silver, bring your own just in case.
Anyone ever have to switch their pull list to a new store? I'm moving out of the suburbs to downtown, and there's a place just a mile from work. Nice guy works there.
However, my current shop is also great and the staff are very friendly. Great selection, nice people.
I feel like a jerk moving my pulls since this place was the shop that I started doing a pull list.
I just called to cancel and tell him why and he wasn't super nice about it, saying he lives downtown and makes the trek, etc, but he'll cancel it.
Now I'm dealing with some guilt. Comics are rough, man.
However, my current shop is also great and the staff are very friendly. Great selection, nice people.
I feel like a jerk moving my pulls since this place was the shop that I started doing a pull list.
I just called to cancel and tell him why and he wasn't super nice about it, saying he lives downtown and makes the trek, etc, but he'll cancel it.
Now I'm dealing with some guilt. Comics are rough, man.
GrandHarrier
Member
Don't worry about it. You have to do what makes sense to you and while it sucks to lose business (especially if you have a large pull list) it's not his place to guilt trip you.
Tragicomedy
Member
I've asked around about this before, but the answer is yes. I'm interested in Ms. Marvel, Moon Knight, Secret Avengers, Black Widow, and possibly some others. I'll PM you.
He is an asshole for trying to guilt trip you. I'd stop going there altogether or go in and sniff all the new comics.
Sir Garbageman
Member
Pretty classless by the shop owner, I wouldn't worry about it.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Fuck that guy. It's his job to be there. He gets paid. You have no obligation to run across town.
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