CPU Wii U just as powerful as PS3, X360, GPU 1,5 times stronger

Nintendo fans have it rought.

as usual.

They have been megatonned for the last 15 years. nothing happens.

wii looks more and more like wii did in 06 except for the fact that wiiu does not look all that hot with the casuals.

left is the nintendo fan. who will be megatonned .

It will be interesting to see how the wiiu stacks upp against hardware that is 15 times more powerful.

interesting indeed.
 
Welcome to the current generation Nintendo.

This is fucking terrible no matter how you spin it.

It's both terrible and hilarious, if true. Holy crap, that sounds like worse power than I could have ever imagined. 1.5x times GPU and around the same CPU vs. 7 year old hardware. Is this real life? This is exactly the Wii all over again. I don't think consumers are going to flock to it in the same fashion as the tablet isn't as interesting and fresh in terms of new tech as the Wiimote was.

By the way, I read the first 2-3 pages + the last page. What made the thread 27 pages long? Was there a meltdown in there somewhere? Any kinda summary would be appreciated, thanks.
 
Nintendo fans have it rought.

as usual.

They have been megatonned for the last 15 years. nothing happens.

wii looks more and more like wii did in 06 except for the fact that wiiu does not look all that hot with the casuals.

left is the nintendo fan. who will be megatonned .

It will be interesting to see how the wiiu stacks upp against hardware that is 15 times more powerful.

interesting indeed.
I've been megatonned from behind so many times now. It's starting to hurt.
Nintendo hasn't been to keen on taking ideas from others *cough*, but yes that's the one.
 
It's both terrible and hilarious, if true. Holy crap, that sounds like worse power than I could have ever imagined. 1.5x times GPU and around the same CPU vs. 7 year old hardware. Is this real life? This is exactly the Wii all over again. I don't think consumers are going to flock to it in the same fashion as the tablet isn't as interesting and fresh in terms of new tech as the Wiimote was.

By the way, I read the first 2-3 pages + the last page. What made the thread 27 pages long? Was there a meltdown in there somewhere? Any kinda summary would be appreciated, thanks.



It's both terrible and hilarious. People taking rumor as fact. Holy crap, that sounds people think less than I could have ever imagined.
 
You know what would be awesome for huge threads like this? a wiki post on the first page people can edit a summary and stuff. I've seen that on CAG and another foru i forget

It's both terrible and hilarious. People taking rumor as fact. Holy crap, that sounds people think less than I could have ever imagined.

didn't say it was fact
even said "if true". Don't be so defensive over nothing
 
Nintendo fans have it rought.

as usual.

They have been megatonned for the last 15 years. nothing happens.

wii looks more and more like wii did in 06 except for the fact that wiiu does not look all that hot with the casuals.

left is the nintendo fan. who will be megatonned .

It will be interesting to see how the wiiu stacks upp against hardware that is 15 times more powerful.

interesting indeed.

we're up to 15 times more powerful now?
 
How can something that have huge sell can be a commercial failure ?:o

when something is making losses to the company who produces is a commercial failure.
Maybe at the end of his lifecycle will have produced big protifs, not now.

And I don't think will sell as the ds, maybe half.
 
Nintendo fans have it rought.

as usual.

They have been megatonned for the last 15 years. nothing happens.

wii looks more and more like wii did in 06 except for the fact that wiiu does not look all that hot with the casuals.

left is the nintendo fan. who will be megatonned .

It will be interesting to see how the wiiu stacks upp against hardware that is 15 times more powerful.

interesting indeed.
......what?
 
lets try to get some perspective.

the Wii had 88 megs of ram to the 360's 512. a 5.8 times difference.
the Wii had a single core processor rumoured to be clocked at 729 MHz, to the 360's three core multithreaded 3.2 GHz processor. three times the cores, each core running 4.4 times faster.

you are NOT going to see similar differences between the Wii U and the next Xbox or PS4.
 
lets try to get some perspective.

the Wii had 88 megs of ram to the 360's 512. a 5.8 times difference.
the Wii had a single core processor rumoured to be clocked at 729 MHz, to the 360's three core multithreaded 3.2 GHz processor. three times the cores, each core running 4.4 times faster.

you are NOT going to see similar differences between the Wii U and the next Xbox or PS4.

The jump between Wii U and PS4/720 won't be as huge, correct, but it still doesn't mean Wii U will get software that's developed for PS4/720. :(
 
lets try to get some perspective.

the Wii had 88 megs of ram to the 360's 512. a 5.8 times difference.
the Wii had a single core processor rumoured to be clocked at 729 MHz, to the 360's three core multithreaded 3.2 GHz processor. three times the cores, each core running 4.4 times faster.

you are NOT going to see similar differences between the Wii U and the next Xbox or PS4.
wow I knew about the 88 megs (laughable) but didn't realize the cpu was so slow, and yet they kinda got COD to kinda work on that.
 
I can't see games like Watch_Dogs and Star Wars 1313 running on this thing. How could Nintendo think this was a good idea (if true) after what happened with the 3rd-party situation this gen...
 
It will be interesting to see how the wiiu stacks upp against hardware that is 15 times more powerful.

we're up to 15 times more powerful now?

correction, the cpu will be 15x more powerful. the gpu (if my maths are correct) will be ~22.5x more powerful.

back to reality now; I think some people will be heavily disappointed with the (lack of) power in "next-gen" consoles. that applies to all three major players.
 
The jump between Wii U and PS4/720 won't be as huge, correct, but it still doesn't mean Wii U will get software that's developed for PS4/720. :(

oh, i know. i'm expecting something like 4 times as powerful as a sensible estimate, and my gut feeling tells me Wii U isn't going to be powerful enough to do the full fat UE4 with real time GI.
 
I can't see games like Watch_Dogs and Star Wars 1313 running on this thing. How could Nintendo think this was a good idea (if true) after what happened with the 3rd-party situation this gen...




Yeah, Nintendo sucks. They should have gone with a 599 USD console.
Do you know actually how much it cost to run Watch Dogs or Star Wars 1313 as we saw them ?
 
just about any off the shelf gpu is 10 times more powerful than xenos.
Even if this was true, how much would these cost? I get the feeling it would cost a little too much to put into a console.

Now, what about the rest of the system? You're expecting 15GB of RAM? And a CPU with 10x the grunt of Cell? And all this put together with a next gen Kinect? And how much do you expect this hypothetical system to cost? Less than $600 or more?
 
I can't see games like Watch_Dogs and Star Wars 1313 running on this thing. How could Nintendo think this was a good idea (if true) after what happened with the 3rd-party situation this gen...
the Xbox 360 will be able to run Watch_Dogs, so the Wii U will be able to also. naturally neither version will look as good as the PC version we saw at E3.
 
When you look at how successful the Kinect and entertainment services are for Microsoft, do you really think they're going to break the bank making a powerhouse system when they don't need to?
 
It's both terrible and hilarious, if true. Holy crap, that sounds like worse power than I could have ever imagined. 1.5x times GPU and around the same CPU vs. 7 year old hardware. Is this real life? This is exactly the Wii all over again. I don't think consumers are going to flock to it in the same fashion as the tablet isn't as interesting and fresh in terms of new tech as the Wiimote was.

By the way, I read the first 2-3 pages + the last page. What made the thread 27 pages long? Was there a meltdown in there somewhere? Any kinda summary would be appreciated, thanks.
The vultures have arrived to pick at the carcass. I saw a big, blue one fly by not long ago.
 
the Xbox 360 will be able to run Watch_Dogs, so the Wii U will be able to also. naturally neither version will look as good as the PC version we saw at E3.

I thought the platforms weren't announced yet? Like they were being shady about it?

I can't imagine Ubi putting that much extra effort into the PC version to make it look that good when they've never gone that far with previous multi-platform ports this gen. Why start now

The vultures have arrived to pick at the carcass.
Wish i could have been one of the lions but Diablo 3 has consumed my life
 
oh, i know. i'm expecting something like 4 times as powerful as a sensible estimate, and my gut feeling tells me Wii U isn't going to be powerful enough to do the full fat UE4 with real time GI.

I expect the Wii U to run UE4 at it's minimum, while PS4/720 will be somewhere in the middle and PC, of course, running UE4 at max.


I thought the platforms weren't announced yet? Like they were being shady about it?

I can't imagine Ubi putting that much extra effort into the PC version to make it look that good when they've never gone that far with previous multi-platform ports this gen. Why start now
They said PS3/360/PC, but that can change. Also, it probably won't look like what we saw for the PS3/360, if it does come out for those consoles.
 
They're using 1080i60 footage (they say so). They already measured 60fps for two of the games, so I'm not sure why it'd be any different for Pikmin if it were 60fps unless Nintendo only limited its output to 30fps. As for Rayman, the conference segment must have been recorded at 30fps whilst they didn't mind using 60fps footage for ME3 and Darksiders 2 then (odd decision if true). *shrug*

I haven't really followed the framerate discussions for the two games you mention; do you have links?

None of it was from live footage though, but from trailes and prerecorded gameplay footage captured and edited by a bunch of different teams. Which makes the analysis pretty much completely useless. Some teams may have just set the capture to 30 fps, other may not even have captured from actual hardware. We just don't know. Also the games are not finnished
 
I thought the platforms weren't announced yet? Like they were being shady about it?

I can't imagine Ubi putting that much extra effort into the PC version to make it look that good when they've never gone that far with previous multi-platform ports this gen. Why start now

well, if you're gearing up for next gen development, that'd be one reason to want to start getting to grips with DX11 level stuff, and compute shaders and the rest of it. honestly, i don't know why they'd start now.

i don't know why Rockstar amped up their PC support with Max Payne 3 either, just hope such things continue.

Legends will be 60 fps. I'm certain of that.
 
As showed by the fast decline of Wii and the bad launch of 3ds(still a commercial failure despite the huge sales) the casual gaming is in decline.

Playstation Vita doesn't sell good at all as well. So gaming as a whole is in decline. Or make that: people have less money to spend on new consoles/don't see the point in new consoles that cost much.

Which means if PS4/720 cost a lot, they will sell really badly. Which also means if Wii U is priced somewhat low, it will still sell/sell a lot better than the other new consoles.
 
None of us actually know all the details about how the Wii U and the PS4/720 will compare at this point, so having such a heated discussion about it seems pointless.

All we can do is make a guess based on current rumors/info.
 
Playstation Vita doesn't sell good at all as well. So gaming as a whole is in decline. Or make that: people have less money to spend on new consoles/don't see the point in new consoles that cost much.

Which means if PS4/720 cost a lot, they will sell really badly. Which also means if Wii U is priced somewhat low, it will still sell/sell a lot better than the other new consoles.

I don't think that PS4/720 will sell worse than what they have already because I imagine most of the owners of those consoles are "core" gamers. And core gamers will find a way to buy it. Nintendo on the other hand won't necessarily hit 100m Wii U's because I do wonder if a lot of their Wii audience has moved to iOS and/or really doesn't care anymore for another console with peripherals that they use every now and then.
 
And the 80Gb flash storage as standard.

Shit sounds sweet.

EDIT: and the 10 tablets to control everything.

You forgot the 40 Move remotes and 10 Kinects to go along with that.

50 - 100 year life cycle

You're all wrong, there's no controller because your MIND is the controller!

20gigs. Crytek saved.

Don't forget the 15GB of RAM.

I can't wait for those Ps4 / 720s next year with their 4 TFLOP GPUs being all a generational leap ahead of the WiiU.

EDIT: I better start saving and getting that second job now.

lol. The meltdown is hilarious.
 
my gut feeling tells me Wii U isn't going to be powerful enough to do the full fat UE4 with real time GI.

As I said in that thread, I fully expect the UE4 Lite version to be used on Wii U. I don't consider it likely at all that it'll be able to run the full featured version.
 
Ok, I'm a bit confused- in the rumored spec leak, it seemed like mods and other posters were confirming these were true and that this represented at the very least a clear step up from PS360. So why the sudden pessimism? Is it just because of articles like this? Or because of NSMB U?
 
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