Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
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Crusader Kings 2 MP Community Thread of Count, Duke, King, Emperor and MGO
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Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
fanboi and I played a quick multiplayer game using the last save file and it worked just fine.
I second this.
Yeah. Lets skip it tonight.
archnemesis
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I finally started playing this in single player mode and it's really fun. How difficult is it to play in real-time? Are you playing it on speed step 3?
archnemesis
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Nope, I'm way too busy with other obligations. Uniting Sweden under an absolute monarchy with me as the people's benevolent dictator is all I have time for.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
Sure, we could always use more players. Right now there's plenty of room for someone to start in Spain, France, or eastern Europe.
Feel free to join!
We haven't gotten so far yet.
What dynasty are you planning to play as? Next session is on tuesday 22:00 CEST.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
http://dropcanvas.com/plm33 - This is the last save file I can find. Also, did you give your Steam name to fanboi?
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
You haven't missed much. Between multiplayer glitches, World Cup games, power outages, and other random acts of god, we've barely made any progress in the last two weeks. But it's not a complete loss, because people have been busy anyway. It was difficult to get enough players together any one day to play through an entire session.
archnemesis
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This thread could use a new world map.
Good, then it is only Phoenix left.
archnemesis
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Thanks fanboi! It's very different from my private game.
I'm slightly annoyed the AI in Greater Moravia rigged things to be nearly impossible to fix as a human player, but then the second I leave and let the AI take over it assassinates a dude who probably had no business dying while getting gobs of money from the Pope (who repeatedly refused me, despite having a fairly good opinion).
So it's essentially one more assassination of a grand son away from being a non-gameover situation. Since he's not a direct heir, that opens up plots too and everyone hates kids, so I assume it would be pretty easy.
Greater Poland sucked too, because it seems that I can beat most of the local dukes in open battle, but I don't actually have enough troops to capture anything xD. Probably should just raid or something.
Either way, both situations were terrible to inherit as a human player when I looked at the save file like 10-20 years prior, everything was fine. It seems like the AI makes highly illogical choices for a human player, but it knows how much it can "cheat" later, so its not actually that illogical from its perspective.
So it's essentially one more assassination of a grand son away from being a non-gameover situation. Since he's not a direct heir, that opens up plots too and everyone hates kids, so I assume it would be pretty easy.
Greater Poland sucked too, because it seems that I can beat most of the local dukes in open battle, but I don't actually have enough troops to capture anything xD. Probably should just raid or something.
Either way, both situations were terrible to inherit as a human player when I looked at the save file like 10-20 years prior, everything was fine. It seems like the AI makes highly illogical choices for a human player, but it knows how much it can "cheat" later, so its not actually that illogical from its perspective.
That was a productive session. My holy war agains Slavonia (conquered meanwhile by a dirty barbarian) was going great and I was at 90% when Hungary decided to step it. I thought it will all end into a white peace, because Hungary had some 6000 troops against my 2500 brave soldiers. But luckily they put 2500 to siege one of my provinces and the other 3500 attack my troops but gradually. Although I was out numbered, I won the fight even when the other 2500 joined the battle in the final moments. And thus I made 100%. Now I might lose one county as I give the title to a French prince whose heir just died and it's now inherited by the King of West Francia. Now I'm big enough and soon it will come the time to revolt against the King of Bulgaria.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
I have a really bad habit of making enemies out of potential claimants. I thought I could get rid of a heretical family member by stripping him of his title, but that didn't quite go as planned, because a few years later he mounted an invasion for England with almost 30,000 soldiers. That was a very tough war, in which every battle came down to the last few moments. It wasn't helped by the obvious disparity in levy numbers. He had more troops than I did. In the last major engagement of the war, 7k brave British soldiers held out against 13k callow invaders for several weeks, until I could reinforce them with nearly 4,000 mercenaries. Banishing him for 600 gold didn't quite pay for the amount of money I wasted on that war.
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A GOD AMONG MEN, AND I MISSED MY CHANCE TO PLAY HIM
Current ruler is pretty good, but he's no Ubermensch. Fortunately, he managed to kill both his brothers without upsetting anyone. We Game of Thrones now.
A GOD AMONG MEN, AND I MISSED MY CHANCE TO PLAY HIM
Current ruler is pretty good, but he's no Ubermensch. Fortunately, he managed to kill both his brothers without upsetting anyone. We Game of Thrones now.
Sorry about wasting like 30 minutes trying to get connected. Not sure why it worked yesterday but not today.
Genius heir as a Muslim? Given their mechanics, that's really hard to get. You could remove your spymaster and fail an assassination attempt if you want to play as him, and you'll probably die to the counter assassination attempt. Not sure if it's worth the gold loss though. Also would keep your dynasty size nice and small.
Genius heir as a Muslim? Given their mechanics, that's really hard to get. You could remove your spymaster and fail an assassination attempt if you want to play as him, and you'll probably die to the counter assassination attempt. Not sure if it's worth the gold loss though. Also would keep your dynasty size nice and small.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
This was my character for a long time:
Then I switched to primogeniture and got stuck with a mediocre, maimed ruler.
Then I switched to primogeniture and got stuck with a mediocre, maimed ruler.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
I don't care about the kind and honest traits all that much, but the +1 diplomacy events are hard to pass up. If there was a similar intrigue event, I might consider specializing in it more often. And unless you have a lot of intrigue, it's generally not worth using assassinations and plots, because the high chance of discovery will just make things worse.
There is an Intrigue event similar to the Diplomacy event, but yeah, it's more for plots and factions. Or when you're trying to convince someone of something (say, people come to you asking for tax breaks, or telling a vassal to stop plotting). Usually it's like:
Diplomacy: Talk your way out of it
Stewardship: Bribe them
Intrigue: Threaten them
I think Diplomacy is nicer overall to have, while Stewardship makes you rich, but I'm too paranoid to have anything less than 10 Intrigue.
Assassination is for when Plots are totally out of the question. But, while I was rebuilding my empire after coming back to the game, Intrigue was invaluable, because I had to reconquer all the Misaphysites, and they tend to fictionalize a lot. At one point, I plotted my way through 4-5 Counts of a particularly troublesome province, until one more successful plot would've had the province pass outside of my realm due to inheritance. I had nearly destroyed an entire Dynasty, and that wasn't even with some kind of godly Intrigue score. That was just 15 or so, in maybe half the session (for the other half, they ran out of people to plot against me). Once you have 10 Intrigue, you can fire off Kill Plots every 5-10 minutes.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
The kind event with +1 diplomacy appears all the time - almost once per character - and +3 total diplomacy is quite nice for a single event. Sometimes I will choose deceitful over honest though, if I don't already have kind. I also like the cynical trait unless I already have zealous (which I prefer greatly, because of its bonus to martial). But I think traits are mostly situational. Diplomacy is less useful for smaller realms, especially if you're independent. For vast sprawling empires, I prefer to focus on diplomacy and stewardship, along with the brilliant strategist education trait. If you have a large kingdom or empire, then it's almost necessary to focus heavily on intrigue or not even bother, because the penalties for discovery within your own realm are really painful. And unfortunately, the paranoid trait doesn't come up enough, in my experience. I almost never have the chance to get it.
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