And as have I and I just don't get this, I finished C2 this morning and although under the hood it may have the technical bullets points to top trump other games out there but visually speaking it doesn't come close to either of those games you've mentioned, especially UC2 for texture quality which is arguably one of the most important visual components of a game, and even KZ3 imo looks much better graphically, a much cleaner looking game with better animation and modelling, the only thing that really impressed me in C2 graphically was the shadows, I just wish I could see what everybody else is seeing that is so apparently so impressive, granted I am talking about the console versions, on the PC in high with temporal AA disabled and blur disabled then yeah it starts to to turn my head.