RavageX
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Cyberpunk did suck (IMO) as far as what was promised and what was released. Its Mass Effect Andromeda level to me.Suddenly the Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk are bad games...
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Cyberpunk 2077 currently has no plans for a PS5 Pro Patch
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lifa-cobex
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TBF Cyberpunk was a mess on consoles upon release.
However the end product could not be categorised as a "bad game".
It's been completely overhauled with a great deal of content added.
Some posters on here are showing very distressing signs of sour grapes.
"Well now I'm not going to buy it"
If you wanted to play it then you would have already. It's been five years.
If you're just looking to fill up on or justify your new expensive machine....
Then you have other issues.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
The Witcher 3 was always a great game. Putting Cyberpunk with it literally makes no sense and they are not in the same ballpark. The game was mocked for years...where were you?Suddenly the Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk are bad games...
Kings Field
Member
I enjoyed the game on PS5 after the expansion dropped but I'll never play it again even if it did get a pro patch. It's a one and done for me.
lifa-cobex
Member
See above post#252
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
The game has problems that simple updates don't fix...and that's okay. People seem to forget everything that team promised us before release it seems.
The Witcher 3 was much more ahead of its time when it released than Cyberpunk. Those two were never on the same ballpark.
This reminds me on all the hype surrounding Man's Sky updates and how the game barely looks like the released game. Game is still crap no matter what.
I'm talking about promises vs what was delivered here even after updates.
lifa-cobex
Member
I mean sure. You're entirely correct on what was promised and what was delivered.
However I'm looking at it as a product from today.
I've no idea how it runs on consoles but it is now a complete package that runs very well on PC.
Preference on what you prefer to play withstanding.
I'm not a huge fan of Cyberpunk myself but if someone were to ask then I would recommend it. It's a complete game that has entertainment value.
As you say. It's the same deal with No Man's Sky. It was a complete mess on release and didn't deliver on what was promised.
However as far as I can see (not having played it). It has exceeded what it had originally promised
The above poster compared it to ME Andromeda which is ludicrous.
Also I'm fairly certain the Witcher 3 had issues on release too? Bad frame rates and pop-ins.
But again the quality of released products is a different argument altogether. I'm sure that you, I and others will agree that it's not fucking good.
GinSama
Member
The game run just fine on PS5. People just love to complain about things. Is pretty ridiculous to bash the company just because of this decision... I mean even after 2.0 is the game not worthy to play for the first time just because of their decision !?!?
They did their redemption arc and after all this time I don't have any issue with my pre order back then.....the game turn out great, love the base game and the expansion is really, really good.
I'm more than happy for them to be focus on Witcher 1 remake and the next chapter of the Witcher franchise.
Also it doesn't look like they are saying is impossible to do it. They are just not doing anything at the moment. PS5 pro released just now...... People need to relax and play other games...or maybe people don't have enough games to play....
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RavageX
Member
Nah, Andromeda pretty much did the same thing. Promised content never appeared and the game never came close to the original promise. AND it sucked.
Im not even talking about the difference of Cyberpunk on console and PC. Overall it is not the game the company claimed it would be, pretty patches or not.
I didn't have that issue with Witcher 3.
No mans sky for comparison no where near delivered what was promised at the beginning, but they fixed that tenfold. Do I like the game? No, doesn't seem to be for me, but I can acknowledge the effort.
They simply washed their hands of Cyberpunk, probably because they knew they couldnt deliver. Especially after shitting the bed at release like that. Celebrity dlc doesnt change anything.
I played and finished the game, and consider it to be a huge disappointment outside of graphics, and that doesn't make a game good.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Yeah, but there's a cost that comes with that.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I'm assuming a Pro patch will also make the game look and run better on a PS6. So whatever the cost, will help the game sell better for the next 5 years. How is that a bad decision?
Mortisfacio
Member
Will it really, though. As seen in this thread, most people complaining already bought the game. They already updated the game for PS5. What would be the need to update a 4 year old game yet again just because Sony released a mid-gen refresh of a Pro variant?
The argument being used is "Other games are getting a pro patch" and yet they're all Sony 1st parties, GaaS or games that came out between 2022-24. CyberPunk launched in 2020. From what I can find on the list of games getting a pro patch, no largely single player game is getting a pro patch that is 4+ years old unless they're still in active development (No Mans Sky, for example).
MagnetoWasRight
Member
I only played the game on PS5 after the 2.0 version came out (and then the expansion on 2.1) and I loved it. It ran fine for me.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
DLC on disk is only for Xbox from what I remember. CDPR didn’t want to release a new SKU.
Shhhh stop stating facts, that's too much sense for this thread!!
Honestly, I wasn't sure if this is on the purple forum or NeoGAF. So many entitled and at the same time clueless folks xD
Yes, CDPR is the worst and it would save the world and make their stock skyrocket had they invested their resources to improve some reflections and implement the beta testing PSSR in their finished product for a few thousand owners of a niche console (from which many already bought the game anyway). Damn, these lazy motherf******
R6Rider
Gold Member
Was a mess on all platforms. The game had (and still has) major issues at its core. Issues that people love to wave their hand at and ignore.
The bugs were another thing entirely.
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YeulEmeralda
Linux User
How did they wash their hands? Cyberpunk got several patches and an expansion.
Game just wasn't a commercial success like Witcher 3.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The bolded is the biggest reason. I was hoping that with the DLC, it was still in active development. It's clear they've moved on from it in all respects.
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Are people just ignoring that 2077 was a massive financial and critical success over time? Washing their hands of 2077? What?
Cyberpunk 2077 has surpassed 25 million units sold, outpacing The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, CD Projekt Red has announced. Speaking during the CD Projekt Red Investor Day presentation, president and CEO Adam Kiciński announced the new figure, which is up five million from September 2022.
www.ign.com
Cyberpunk 2077 has surpassed 25 million units sold, outpacing The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, CD Projekt Red has announced. Speaking during the CD Projekt Red Investor Day presentation, president and CEO Adam Kiciński announced the new figure, which is up five million from September 2022.
Cyberpunk 2077 Surpasses 25 Million Units Sold, Outpacing The Witcher 3 - IGN
Cyberpunk 2077 has surpassed 25 million units sold, outpacing The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, CD Projekt Red has announced.
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FrankWza
Gold Member
The potential for new sales and DLC sales are more than enough for them to use some resources. Games are remastered years later for sales. This would be cheap and profitable. Oh well
Bojji
Member
It's still PS4 native app. CP got PS5 native app patch years ago.
8BiTw0LF
Consoomer
This is why CDPR should keep supporting it for future consoles, but I guess their Nvidia collap is more importantAre people just ignoring that 2077 was a massive financial and critical success over time? Washing their hands of 2077? What?
Cyberpunk 2077 has surpassed 25 million units sold, outpacing The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, CD Projekt Red has announced. Speaking during the CD Projekt Red Investor Day presentation, president and CEO Adam Kiciński announced the new figure, which is up five million from September 2022.
Cyberpunk 2077 Surpasses 25 Million Units Sold, Outpacing The Witcher 3 - IGN
Cyberpunk 2077 has surpassed 25 million units sold, outpacing The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, CD Projekt Red has announced.
R6Rider
Gold Member
Exactly my point.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
The reason why they should patch it is simple ...this game has received constant love on PC that includes optimizing for all the latest tech money can buy. They've done very little comparatively on console. Yeah, they gave us the "next gen patch" 2 years after the game released in the dreadful state it did. Never did get RT reflections on console which we all know adds a ton to the atmosphere of Night City. So now that consoles have hardware that could be running this game with the same high end RT features as what PC has enjoyed for years they don't care to update it for us.
RavageX
Member
The plan was for more than just one expansion, plus a lot of other content to bring it closer to the original idea. If they had went the direction of the No Man's Sky devs, the so-called redemption of the product might have been praise-worthy.
But, that isn't what happened.
I am not talking sales, lots of things have high numbers that shouldn't. I am talking about completion of a product.
Let me add that I'm not saying everyone should agree with me. MY expectations were that they would deliver what was originally planned(road-mapped and all that BS) only for them to cut and say, "Welp, this is it.". I wouldn't say I'm easily disappointed, but that did it for me.
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Mortisfacio
Member
This is why CDPR should keep supporting it for future consoles, but I guess their Nvidia collap is more important
It makes sense to patch an old game that is past development for a new gen. A PS5 Pro is not a new gen. PS6, sure. Syndicate for example is getting patched with improvements for PS5, Pro and Series X and S. Patching an out of development game for a mid-gen refresh model? Kind of a waste of time.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
What are you talking about .. they spent year(s) on the game to get it to a good state on consoles, including a free next-gen upgrade.
Washing hands would be if they just cut and run from it.
The extra time they dedicated into fixing the game probably ate into whatever timeframe they might have had for any other expansions, and they have other projects to work on as well.
Apocryphon
Member
And yet, scope creep is real. It’s hard to blame them for reining in ambitious ideas that would either result in an extended development time, massive budget overages, or that simply aren’t technologically feasible on the platforms where they expect to sell the greatest numbers. Nobody wants to go back to the days of console ports that are completely different to the PC version, or console ports that were handled by a different team, if it can be avoided.
And it’s not like we’re actually entitled to anything at all. They made claims and “promises”, during development like every other developer, but ultimately there’s no guarantee that you’re going to get every feature that they tested or mentioned in interviews while the game was still deep in development. We look at the end product and then make a choice to buy it or not. We’re not owed shit and we vote with our wallets.
It was a cross gen game that was in development well before the Series or PS5 consoles hit the market and it needed to scale down to the PS4 and Xbox One. They absolutely cut stuff that would have made it a much more compelling game, but that doesn’t make the end product a bad experience.
RavageX
Member
Should have got it right the first time, they knew what they were releasing. If they needed more time to fix the game before release they should have done it. The fact they had to fix a broken game shouldn't change them delivering on promised/planned content, they don't get a pass on that.
You might say they didn't HAVE to fix the game, and you are right about that. But imagine where they would be right now if they didn't.
You are right, we aren't entitled to anything. It is a shame that devs expect you to pre-order based on their promises and get a poor end-result.
Again, for me it was a pretty poor experience. That's just me. Graphics be damned, everything else (IMO) was mediocre at best.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
YEP! Which is what's confusing and dumb to me. But it is what it is.
The reason they cut it down to one expansion is they delayed everything and all their devs that were planned for the expansions to be all hands on deck to fix the game from a disastrous state. The opportunity cost of completing those other expansions changed significantly when they would no longer have those expansions done by the time other huge projects were supposed to receive those devs. The original plan changed.
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Maybe the ROI isn't there. Like they don't think it is worth the effort creating the patch for an additional 10 copies
Did you finish the game after the 2.0 patch?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Remember at one time they were worshipped as "developers of the people."
Good times, then.
Their implementation of FSR3 framegen is downright malicious compliance
Umbral
Member
It’s been on my list for a long time. There are so many games to play nowadays. When it stumbled out of the gate and fell flat on its face, it dropped to the bottom of the list. It’s also a commitment to put so many hours into a game like that for me now. Once Phantom Liberty released and everyone said the game is now where it should have been at launch I looked at it again, but it still wasn’t a high priority for the other reasons stated above. Now that I have a PS5 Pro, I’m taking the same approach as I did with the PS4 Pro. If your game doesn’t have Pro support, I take it off my list until it does. It’s no different than if you were to buy a 4090 but can’t utilize it with certain games because developers say it’s not a priority. PC players would be more upset than console players.
TBF Cyberpunk was a mess on consoles upon release.
However the end product could not be categorised as a "bad game".
It's been completely overhauled with a great deal of content added.
Some posters on here are showing very distressing signs of sour grapes.
"Well now I'm not going to buy it"
If you wanted to play it then you would have already. It's been five years.
If you're just looking to fill up on or justify your new expensive machine....
Then you have other issues.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This is my thoughts too! LOL! Unless it's something like Astro Bot.
ValiantInstance
Member
You are not getting RT reflections on this game using a console. I can't even run RT on my 7900XT. The game still looks incredible.
FrankWza
Gold Member
10 copies. The other thread is saying 1. You're the thread-master. Why don't you do a poll and see how many people would buy the game and or DLC if they release a PS5 Pro patch.
JayK47
Member
Wow. Impressive. How many Concords is that?