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Daft Punk - RAM lOTl - They're nice robots, they chose to stay.

ItAintEasyBeinCheesy

it's 4th of July in my asshole
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Give Life Back to Music makes me think of Michael Jackson dancing in heaven in a silver suit. The grounds lighting up where he walks like in his clip.
 

jokkir

Member
"My name is Hansjörg Giovanni, but everyone calls me Giorgio"

*synth kicks in*

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enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Theres no confusion, I'm assuming they were playing it straight- which is my problem with it. Having that monologue over that music, followed by the drop... The cheese is off the charts.
I don't think it's completely serious, and I think there is a super cheesy way to do it, but that wasn't it.

I like how as the monologue builds the synthesizer is tweaking and tuning and is building up to the start of the song proper, and how it ties into the end of the song too.
 

tanuki

Member
There's pretty much no way that Touch should work in the context of this album or as a Daft Punk song, but there's something about it that really works. Totally stupid but heartfelt at the same time.

I think sequencing it between two bangers is pretty good too.
 
The earnestness is kinda jarring though, when the music they are evoking is, imho, cheesy. Its a fine line, which they toe pretty well, but there are moments when its just too much.

I don't want to get painted as a hater, because I really like it, but its a critique that came up in some early reviews, and I can accept that view point.

now that's a critique i can understand and i agree that it's a fine line. i suppose a big part of it is each individual's perception of what types or styles of music are cheesy. personally, i find some of the lyrics more cheesy than most of the music on the album.

musically, the slower songs and the middle section of touch (where it sounds like a musical) are cheesy to me, but the last 3rd of touch is just so fucking awesome that i now respect the middle third. they made it work. i personally don't find anything cheesy about any of the music in giorgio so that's probably why we don't see eye to eye on it and that's cool.
 

K.Sabot

Member
I just saw someone compare Giorgio by Moroder to "Scarface chasing Dracula through Castlevania", and I have to agree.

Also the singer on Touch sounds a bit like Dan Bejar which I appreciate.
 

Drahcir

Member
This album is great. The "cheesy," "elevator/shopping music," disco is turrble," criticism I've read in this thread....I don't get it. All the disco + lounge + 70s-80s touches are class.

And Contact is straight "2001 + Contact (film) stargate/wormhole sequences in audio form" music. A+ final track.

After my second complete play through of RAM, I have to throw my 2 cents to this opinion. I really don't know where the impression of "cheese" and "elevator music" are coming from. It sounds awfully sincere to me. I've heard myself throw "cheesy" to a lot of things before when there is a sense of, I don't know, deliberate intent? I just can't see it here with RAM. Or perhaps I just like cheese.

The first play through was definitely jarring. Currently listening to it for a third time and the album seems to just sound better when you let it sink in. I was initially pessimistic when I was reading all the twitter chatter about it earlier in the day when I was at work and couldn't listen to it. Tonight, right now, I can't stop listening to it.
 

olympia

Member
I really dig Touch. It totally is an un-Daft Punk song, but it works with the overall concept of the album.

RAM is totally a rebuttal to the old Late 70's/80's cynicism towards disco. Those bright ass guitars are sweet as fuck and that is what totally hooked me on this album.
 

Hieberrr

Member
I really dig Touch. It totally is an un-Daft Punk song, but it works with the overall concept of the album.

RAM is totally a rebuttal to the old Late 70's/80's cynicism towards disco. Those bright ass guitars are sweet as fuck and that is what totally hooked me on this album.
Touch is absolutely fantastic after the vocals. It perfectly sets you in that time period. Then, it gets sad/hopeful sounding. So good.
 
The earnestness is kinda jarring though, when the music they are evoking is, imho, cheesy. Its a fine line, which they toe pretty well, but there are moments when its just too much.

I don't want to get painted as a hater, because I really like it, but its a critique that came up in some early reviews, and I can accept that view point.

I look at it in the same way I look at films that pay homage to eras or styles of film from decades past that might look cheesy now, but the director does it without nudging the audience constantly, or winking every step of the way. Just a totally straightforward love letter to the times, because honestly, a lot of those 70s-80s films people love for their cheese weren't trying to be cheesy. That's what makes them so good. RAM feels 100% honest, which allows me to get past any "cheese factor" and appreciate the music more for it.

And like MikeHaggar said, it just depends on where you come from on the whole "cheesy" thing. I tend to see older media as products of their time, not necessarily cheesy in the worst sense of the word. From that perspective, an artist going back to a particular sound or look, not for kicks and giggles, but out of love for the style is something I can completely understand. Hell, it's one of the reasons I love the 80s electro-pop/synthpop/sci-fi synth revival. This album might not be for someone coming in for traditional EDM Daft Punk, but man, it's good stuff to me.
 

D23

Member
wow dat build up for contact is intense yo, i can see dj's playing this on a festivals and seeing all the hands going up.. :eek:
 

Nyx

Member
Probably the worst album I'll hear this year.

Be honest, if the exact same album was released by Unknown Band A, no one would have cared.

Very generic beats, way too much use of the vocoder and just too many vocals, hardly electronic, what happened to the French house duo that released Homework?

But hey, to each his own, for all fans I hope the album will last for years.
 

Fjordson

Member
Probably the worst album I'll hear this year.

Be honest, if the exact same album was released by Unknown Band A, no one would have cared.

Very generic beats, way too much use of the vocoder and just too many vocals, hardly electronic, what happened to the French house duo that released Homework?

But hey, to each his own, for all fans I hope the album will last for years.
I love the vocoder for some reason. Like I can't get enough of it.

But I agree, some of the vocals are a negative. Paul Williams, Pharrell and Panda Bear add absolutely nothing for me. Especially Panda Bear. Not a fan of his track.
 
The sequencing of this album (closing with Contact) has me wondering if they've already got a heavier, dancier sequel or something in the works. Huge ending.
 

olympia

Member
Very generic beats, way too much use of the vocoder and just too many vocals, hardly electronic, what happened to the French house duo that released Homework?

Hey man, that's cool that you like what you like, but saying that this album isn't like anything that they released 16 years ago isn't really a thoughtful or unique criticism.

Also, the Todd Edwards track is pretty good too.
 

DominoKid

Member
It honestly never crossed my mind that people thought disco was cheesy. It makes me sad knowing people actually think that.

Then again this is the music of my childhood. My dad loves dance music which is funny because I've never seen him bust a move in my life.
 

PBY

Banned
The sequencing of this album (closing with Contact) has me wondering if they've already got a heavier, dancier sequel or something in the works. Huge ending.

I like the interpretation that someone posted earlier- this is a prequel that leads into their other work.

I actually don't want a sequel in this vein (although I doubt we'll get another album anytime soon)- I think the whole disco/lounge/prog theme was fully explored.
 
Man, Daft Punk has always had a disco/funk undercurrent mixed in with their electronic style, they just shifted the knobs more towards the disco direction this time around. I can't see how this is "elevator music", to me its a masterpiece by two artists in their prime.
 
Currently finishing my second listen. As it stands, I'm liking it more than Discovery which is my absolute favorite. It might change over time of course, but right now RAM is easily my favorite Daft Punk album of all time.

Oh, Contact just started. See ya laters ya'll.
 

PBY

Banned
It honestly never crossed my mind that people thought disco was cheesy. It makes me sad knowing people actually think that.

Then again this is the music of my childhood. My dad loves dance music which is funny because I've never seen him bust a move in my life.

Disco is very cheesy at times. Lounge, imho, is also undeniably cheesy. That isn't a criticism, its just sort of the genre- and for me it works and excels when it leans into the cheese and turns up the brightness. For me, the strongest moments on RAM do the same.
 

cdyhybrid

Member
I like the interpretation that someone posted earlier- this is a prequel that leads into their other work.

I actually don't want a sequel in this vein (although I doubt we'll get another album anytime soon)- I think the whole disco/lounge/prog theme was fully explored.

That's the impression I got too. Contact is...someone leaving Earth searching for something (the UFO mentioned) and at the end they find it. The alien robots give them DP's next album (presumably the much more up-tempo remix album).

Or something like that :p
 

Nyx

Member
Hey man, that's cool that you like what you like, but saying that this album isn't like anything that they released 16 years ago isn't really a thoughtful or unique criticism.

Also, the Todd Edwards track is pretty good too.

I'm stuck in the past man, but it's all good here though!
 

PBY

Banned
Man, Daft Punk has always had a disco/funk undercurrent mixed in with their electronic style, they just shifted the knobs more towards the disco direction this time around. I can't see how this is "elevator music", to me its a masterpiece by two artists in their prime.

I love their album, but there are moments when the guitars get a little too indulgent for my tastes. Game of love, for example, feels like an extended jam session, which is cool but also lends to some of that criticism.
 

tanuki

Member
People who think the disco tunes on here are cheesy haven't listened to enough disco.

Don't know how you can hate on disco. Without disco, there'd be no French touch.
 

olympia

Member
That's the impression I got too. Contact is...someone leaving Earth searching for something (the UFO mentioned) and at the end they find it. The alien robots give them DP's next album (presumably the much more up-tempo remix album).

Or something like that :p

Daft Punk's ability to tantalize your imagination is definitely part of the magic they've got going on.

E: There's some Disco that's way too saturated and surface. Like Poolside.
 

Cyklops

Neo Member
After a few listenings of the album, I think the best songs are 'Give Life Back To Music', 'The Game of Love', 'Giorgio by Moroder', 'Instant Crush', 'Lose Yourself To Dance' and 'Motherboard'. 'Touch' and 'Contact' are good too, but not the best IMO. The rest are just ok.
 

tanuki

Member
This album has so many highlights. Hard to pin down the best track, but Giorgio by Moroder is up there with the best they've done.
 

BeeDog

Member
Not feeling this album at all. :( "Giorgio By Moroder" is the proper highlight of the album, and "Contact" is pretty good too. Already grown bored by "Get Lucky". The rest are completely unremarkable in my eyes, but maybe I'm just not a fan of this disco stuff.
 

aznpxdd

Member
Blah, work is going so slow today.

I just wanna head back home, smoke some weed, then lose myself in this album with headphone on.
 

Fjordson

Member
Lol its the one that I really have a hard time listening to all the way through. I find it just too... light.

But thats the cool thing about this album.
Fragments is honestly on some cornball shit, but I like it :lol pretty catchy.

The Paul Williams track is also really corny, but not in a good way like Fragments (in my opinion). Mainly his vocal sections, the other parts sound okay. I mean I respect him and it's neat Daft Punk got him to collaborate on the album, but those sections of the song are so jarring to me.
 

jambo

Member
This alternate track order seems to work very well

01. Contact
02. Get Lucky
03. Give Life Back to Music
04. Fragments of Time
05. Giorgio By Moroder
06. Lose Yourself to Dance
07. Beyond
08. Instant Crush
09. The Game of Love
10. Within
11. Motherboard
12. Doin' It Right
13. Touch


Not feeling this album at all. :( "Giorgio By Moroder" is the proper highlight of the album, and "Contact" is pretty good too. Already grown bored by "Get Lucky". The rest are completely unremarkable in my eyes, but maybe I'm just not a fan of this disco stuff.

I already love disco and funkier stuff, but I did find that it took 3-4 listens for some tracks to click.
 

PBY

Banned
Not feeling this album at all. :( "Giorgio By Moroder" is probably the proper highlight, and "Contact" is pretty good too. Already grown bored by "Get Lucky". The rest are completely unremarkable in my eyes, but maybe I'm just not a fan of this disco stuff.

Its not reaaaally a disco album. It has heavy lounge influences dips into prog at times, plus there is a really cinematic undercurrent to whole thing. A lot slower and more ballady than you'd expect from a straight disco album.
 
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