Um...you seemed pretty intent on lynching Redacted.
Did you change your mind or was this a front to vote for Terrabyte?
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Danganronpa Mafia |OT| Grin and Bear It
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Zippedpinhead
Member
You are right, I want to lynch redacted. Mostly because I think it's insane for the fight clubs people to keep one person hidden from the rest of us, however, since they will not confirm anything, I used that to give more weight to a terrabyte vote.
I still believe he has been scummy with his play this game, especially with day 1 and 2.
That being said I can get behind a TL21xx vote, where has he been? Complete apathy is usually not a scum tell though, like you said lies prove scum, post hunting and floating just are tells
If you are intent on voting Redacted, why don't you switch to Rest instead of joining the bandwagon?
We have enough contributors on that front. I think posts like the one you just made are far more helpful to Hope.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Sorry there was supposed to be a "but" before the "where has he been?" Question. It's the reason I'm not voting TL21xx.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Why do you think I'm redacted?
Except I'm NOT talking about my posting, I'm talking about everyone else's. I'll be frank, I am not very good at this game. I don't have as much time as I thought I would, and it's not easy to keep track of everything. As a result, it's hard to really give input when you don't have time to cross-reference posts. I haven't seen a lot of really solid discussion, and was hoping that Fight Club could get us more information. Obviously, that has not been the case.
But frankly, I'm just a *$+#%%@?$?*, so it's not like I have much of an impact on the game either way the die falls.
I'm asking Zipped yo claridy an i consistency. Zipped said either you or Terrabyte must be Redacted. He really should be gunning for you after I prove it isn't TB. But he was considering jumping on the bandwagon instead.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Me? No, I don't care about redacted at this point. I'd be fine not discussing Fight Club because it's more of a distraction right now than it is a lead. I don't think we've gotten any new information out of it in at least a few hours. Pau and Sawneeks are mum on the identity of redacted, and I don't see much benefit in conjecting further about whom it could be.
At this point, my vote on Zippepinhead isn't going to get him lynched, it can stay for now.
At this point, my vote on Zippepinhead isn't going to get him lynched, it can stay for now.
Sorry, I was asking Zipped if he was going to unvote TB since he can't be Redacted. I don't care about Redacted, either. But I can't let blatant inconsistencies like that slide. If Zipped still wants to lynch Redacted, he needs to:
Switch his vote to another candidate
OR
Unvote and convince us Redacted is Despair.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Nope, I'll leave my vote on terrabyte for now. I want redacted, fight club doesn't want to confirm it, so even with my guessing it's not going to sway anyone in the elite club. I'm confident it's not kalor or you, I'm also positive that it's not anyone from the upper aisle. That doesn't leave many people left over that hasn't already role claimed. I based my vote for the two based on activity, day 1 and 2 votes, the fact that I don't like his reads, and then tried to justify it to redacted. I obviously can't BUT it doesn't change the other portions of my vote.
With this much time before the deadline I will leave my vote.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Based on what we know of despair (no hidden killer), and what we know of movements of despair is moving, and targeting anyone then it has to be someone on the right side of the house that is being targeted. So we look at people moving right, and who can control their movement. If we take people at their word, then the only person consistently moving right is redacted.
There are possible exceptions to this (has despair been able to completely not target anyone the last few nights? Can despair target without being seen? Does despair get the same reads as the rest of fight club) but that's the general gist of why redacted is scummy. If I knew who he was, then I would vote for him. Might not convince everyone to vote for him, but it would get pressure on him. The remaining players redacted could be have been up and down with their votes, and most of them haven't been consistent posters through each day. Some of that is us not really putting pressure on people, some of it is being misguided by czartim for day 3.
Okay, Zipped. I want you to read your own post.
I hope you can see the problem. Why the heck havent you switched your vote to Rest or Gosh? Keeping your vote on TB is bizarre if you truly are determined to lynch Redacted. If you want to vote for TB, you need to make a real case against him. I highlighted your reason for choosing TB and its really not good enough given the premise of your vote. So whats it gong to be? You can vote for another of your Redacted candidates or you can give us the real case against TB. No need to keep us waiting until tomorrow.
I hope you can see the problem. Why the heck havent you switched your vote to Rest or Gosh? Keeping your vote on TB is bizarre if you truly are determined to lynch Redacted. If you want to vote for TB, you need to make a real case against him. I highlighted your reason for choosing TB and its really not good enough given the premise of your vote. So whats it gong to be? You can vote for another of your Redacted candidates or you can give us the real case against TB. No need to keep us waiting until tomorrow.
Zippedpinhead
Member
You seem awfully determined for me not to vote for terrabyte... I won't read anything into it today.
vote:rest
I will not tolerate internal inconsistency. People need to get their stories straight or I am pushing for their lynch. Same thing happened to TB when he pretended to be invisible cop.
Moving on,
I kinda think we should out Redacted. Hasn't Despair bumped into him by now? If so, there's no reason to withold his identity from the rest of Hope. I think CornBurrito pointed this out.
They have if Sawneeks or AbsolutBro are Despair. I'm pretty sure CzarTim never saw them.
AbsolutBro might have seen another rulebreaker that hasn't been outed.
But like I said, if an overwhelming number of Hope wants their name, I'll give it.
I really don't understand the hallway discussions, so I'll just defer to you. If you think there's a reasonable chance that they're still unknown to Despair, keep quiet.
Was AbsolutBro cleared somehow? He outed you and both he and CzarTim had those weird secret messages.
Why are we excluding rule-breakers?
The case against TLX makes sense. I need to read his predecessor's posts. CornBurrito and Terrabyte are still on my radar.
No AbsolutBro has not been cleared. Technically neither have I nor Ty4on.
We aren't as a general rule;I just want to hear people talk about about other players. I feel like we've spent enough time talking about night time activity and it leads to people just asking more and more information from us.
Any particular reasons?
Sorry if I'm hounding you. You seem to be the only person on and I don't want to go to sleep yet.
It's easier to trust you since you have someone to vouch for you. If one of you flips scum, we know what to do to the other.
I explained it all yesterday when I interrogated TB. I forgive him for misleading me about his role since he straightened out his claims. But I can't square why he doubled down on his omission of the facility explanation for Night 3's peace. My gut says he is scum. CornBurrito is implicated if I indeed detected a genuine scumtell.Any particular reasons?
Sorry if I'm hounding you. You seem to be the only person on and I don't want to go to sleep yet.
Btw the reason I didn't vote TI21 is because of the way Kalor (who I am suspicious of) jumped on that vote. However I see Rest jumped on my vote with the weakest reasoning ever, so I dunno. Could be that they aren't expecting Zipped to lose anyway, but Zipped himself certainly seemed to be panicking
Still, TI's flip wouldn't tell me much
Still, TI's flip wouldn't tell me much
sandalphon
Member
TL21xxs response, whilst understandable and for all intents and purposes may be legitimate, does not lend him a strong position as a contributing member of Hope. I am genuinely regretful to have to say that TL21xx may be a dead weight to Hope in the long run if he does not pick up his level of participation. Naturally, this is just a game and real life concerns should always come first for everyone so I do hope that this comment is not taken to heart.
Game-wise, his reply gives me nothing in terms of player reads so I am obliged to relinquish the vote on him for the time being.
Unvote: TL21xx
However, I do notice one thing: which is that TL21xx has picked Terrabyte20xx as Hope in Post no. 3121, whilst picking on kingkitty and Rest as his suspicious players. On the other hand, Terrabyte20xx has consistently spoken for TL21xx. I recalled that Terrabyte20xx was the person that reminded us that TL21xx was driving through Texas on the time where CzarTims vote was on the line. And recently, Terrabyte20xx has been consistently favourable on the issues of TL21xx.
Additionally, Terrabyte20xx has also picked on Rest as his Punishment candidate, quite aligned with TL21xxs stance.
This hand-in-hand approach may be of circumstantial happenings but it was something that I noticed and I thought it has enough interesting factor in it for me to mention it, for Hopes consideration.
I will now present my daily reads.
I believe the following players are Hope-aligned:
Players that I find harder to read:
Suspicious list (remains the same as per my previous post):
I am left with little options for a strong lynch candidate for Day 5. I will return later with a new vote, but I do believe that we are in a considerably favourable position with regards to risking chances of mislynches.
Game-wise, his reply gives me nothing in terms of player reads so I am obliged to relinquish the vote on him for the time being.
Unvote: TL21xx
However, I do notice one thing: which is that TL21xx has picked Terrabyte20xx as Hope in Post no. 3121, whilst picking on kingkitty and Rest as his suspicious players. On the other hand, Terrabyte20xx has consistently spoken for TL21xx. I recalled that Terrabyte20xx was the person that reminded us that TL21xx was driving through Texas on the time where CzarTims vote was on the line. And recently, Terrabyte20xx has been consistently favourable on the issues of TL21xx.
Additionally, Terrabyte20xx has also picked on Rest as his Punishment candidate, quite aligned with TL21xxs stance.
This hand-in-hand approach may be of circumstantial happenings but it was something that I noticed and I thought it has enough interesting factor in it for me to mention it, for Hopes consideration.
I will now present my daily reads.
I believe the following players are Hope-aligned:
- Ty4on Posts insightful reads and theories. Asks questions where they need to be asked.
- Pau protective but pragmatic.
- Swamped Active and participates well.
- Sawneeks Resolute. Has been on the receiving end on some suspicion. Able to defend herself well without losing patience or reason.
- CornBurrito Passionate. He has now eclipsed CzarTim as top poster. Has slight tendencies to shoot from the hips but his intentions come across Hope-aligned.
- Makai Somewhat aggressive but contributes steadily throughout.
- Christina Mackenzie inherited Barrylockes role. I found Barrylocke to have been a Hope-aligned poster when he did post. His reads are spot on and his analysis was meaningful. He was also targeted as an easy mark by some players.
- Royal_Flush great new voice. Energetic and thoughtful.
Players that I find harder to read:
- Rest He remains watchful of the game but he no longer possess the kind of fire that he displayed in Day 1. His intentions seems to be Hope-aligned, but I may be distracted by the fact that two of my suspects have the habit to pick on Rest, creating an effect of the enemy of my enemy must be my friend.
- *Splinter I am ambivalent on Splinter. He makes interesting posts and I like the sound of his positions but theres still doubts on this player in my mind.
- Zippedpinhead He has become much more pronounced in Day 5 and not as middle of the road as he had been in the earlier days. I am starting to lean Hope on Zippedpinhead but I would welcome more contributions from him.
- AbsolutBro I had pegged him as Hope earlier on since it would take considerable risk and courage to out CzarTim in his encoded message without anyones prompting him to do so. CzarTim was in no manners held suspicious by anyone at that stage of the game. It was AbsolutBros tips that alerted me and sent me upon the path of suspicion of CzarTim. However, I am not as sure as I was. There is a slight chance that he may be playing the long game according to my Hope fellow players and I am unable to dismiss it any longer.
Suspicious list (remains the same as per my previous post):
- Kalor Slippery as an eel. I still await for Kalor to make a bolder stance on some issues in order to be able to determine his alignment, if at all.
- Terrabyte20xx Odd voting pattern and behaviours. I cant quite reconcile this players narrative.
- Kingkitty If I have to pick a potential third-party player in this game, it would be kingkitty. His Day 1 behaviours remain a mysterious enigma to me and he subsequently submerged himself in the middle of the herd only to surface to make the occasional posts. When he does make a post, however, they are of contents and thoughts.
- TL21xx Unfortunately, at the best case of scenarios, he seems not to have been afforded enough time and space to enjoy this game to the fullest potentials due to his real life constraints, which may render him a baggage to Hope to lug around in the long term. At the worst case of scenarios, he is a Despair coaster.
I am left with little options for a strong lynch candidate for Day 5. I will return later with a new vote, but I do believe that we are in a considerably favourable position with regards to risking chances of mislynches.
Christina Mackenzie
Member
So is this our strategy for today? Simply getting rid of dead weight?
I'm conflicted about voting for players simply because of their perceived lack of participation. Reading TL21xx's reaction, it does lead me to believe that he might be hope.
He hammered the vote against Czar but there was more than an hour difference between Czar's vote and his.
Czar's vote
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=176614760&postcount=3247
TL21xx's vote
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=176624068&postcount=3252
If he was Despair wouldn't he have done it sooner? Perhaps he genuinely didn't check the vote count for the day.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=177127043&postcount=3365
Maybe he's really been to busy to keep up with the thread but at the same time his limited contribution is hurting the group.
I really don't know how I should feel about this...
I'm conflicted about voting for players simply because of their perceived lack of participation. Reading TL21xx's reaction, it does lead me to believe that he might be hope.
He hammered the vote against Czar but there was more than an hour difference between Czar's vote and his.
Czar's vote
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=176614760&postcount=3247
TL21xx's vote
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=176624068&postcount=3252
If he was Despair wouldn't he have done it sooner? Perhaps he genuinely didn't check the vote count for the day.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=177127043&postcount=3365
Maybe he's really been to busy to keep up with the thread but at the same time his limited contribution is hurting the group.
I really don't know how I should feel about this...
As I said earlier, it would have made more sense for Tim to place the last vote, it's the only reason I was more suspicious of Kalor's post than TI21's.
On the other hand, he could also be a slightly inactive Despair. Explains Tim voting when he could have waited to be last and explains the 1 hour gap
Any reason you aren't answering my questions?
On the other hand, he could also be a slightly inactive Despair. Explains Tim voting when he could have waited to be last and explains the 1 hour gap
Any reason you aren't answering my questions?
Just catching up, seeing these votes on TL. I dunno, feels kind of like a cop-out choice. I think there's a murky difference between inexperienced Town players and inexperienced Mafia players, and TL just strikes me as the former. Do you honestly think he would have put that vote in to end the day early if he had a team giving him advice?
I personally would rather vote for someone else who has more substantial evidence against them. Still, should this be a mislynch it will be fine since we just got a Despair and we've had no kills.
(I'm actually in the vacation portion of my trip now, so i may be less responsive...sorry!)
I personally would rather vote for someone else who has more substantial evidence against them. Still, should this be a mislynch it will be fine since we just got a Despair and we've had no kills.
(I'm actually in the vacation portion of my trip now, so i may be less responsive...sorry!)
Hey guys, real talk, I am dropping out because I legitimately don't have the time to play at the moment. I've already PMed Launch about getting a replacement. I didn't realize how busy I would be IRL when I signed up, and for that I'm sorry. I tried to make an honest effort, but realized that I just don't have the time to keep up with the posts and formulate a decent read. Have fun guys, maybe next time.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Unfortunately, due to a lack of replacement players, I've had to make the tough call...
The platform underneath TL21xx opened up and he disappeared into a dark hole. A distant wailing of pain could be heard below, then after a few seconds, nothing.
The platform underneath TL21xx opened up and he disappeared into a dark hole. A distant wailing of pain could be heard below, then after a few seconds, nothing.
TL21xx said:
Sawneeks, this is an old post from Day 2 in which you soft claimed as an ordinary student. But at the end of D3 it became fairly obvious you are a PR. What was your thinking behind this? If you thought claiming ordinary would save you from a NK that means you believed that Desapir had not seen you N1. But then you would have never outed Crab (thinking he was Despair) on D3. Something here doesn't add up.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
All votes on TL21xx have been removed. Please refer to the spreadsheet for a current vote count.
I think the next season we will see some smaller games that should be easier to follow. I just hope they won't be like NX Mafia...
Royal_Flush
Member
Well then, hope to see you around for future games when you have more free time.
If I end up in a game with Sorian, Launchpad and one other insane frequency poster I might just not attend...
For the lazy people:
Sawneeks
Rest
kingkitty
Ty4on
AbsolutBro
Swamped
Zippedpinhead
*Splinter
Rest
Terrabyte20xx
Zippedpinhead
Royal_Flush
Vote: Terrabyte20xx
Not a final vote, just the next 80 on my list.
Royal_Flush
Member
Launchpad, Rest is twice in that table of yours (and now also in my list)
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Sorry, looks like I had missed a few votes since the last page.
Christina Mackenzie
Member
Take care, TL21xx.
Sorry, forgot about that. It would be really helpful if you quoted my post next time so GAF highlights it for me.
Not following you on Kalor, sounds like you're implying Despair can't count. Czar being the final majority vote to end the day early I get but his vote wasn't the majority.
Regarding AB, I'm working purely based on an assumption that among the PRs there is 1 Despair. It's just an assumption and not based on any evidence found in this thread. If anyone can help point out anything that would suggest any of them are confirmed Hope do let me know.
I'll have a look at Kingkitty's posts again since you say there's something interesting.
Sorry, forgot about that. It would be really helpful if you quoted my post next time so GAF highlights it for me.
Not following you on Kalor, sounds like you're implying Despair can't count. Czar being the final majority vote to end the day early I get but his vote wasn't the majority.
Regarding AB, I'm working purely based on an assumption that among the PRs there is 1 Despair. It's just an assumption and not based on any evidence found in this thread. If anyone can help point out anything that would suggest any of them are confirmed Hope do let me know.
I'll have a look at Kingkitty's posts again since you say there's something interesting.
I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Royal_Flush
Member
Okay, I just reread the day (mainly in order to write down my notes) and I honestly don't know who to vote for.
TL21xx is out (and turned out to be hope)
Kalor and Terrabyte both did better today
Rest still is Rest. Could be anything
Zippedpinhead, whom I had down as only slightly scummy keeps fishing for redacted and in general just digs himself deeper
So I'm torn between following my D4 reads or go after Zipped...
TL21xx is out (and turned out to be hope)
Kalor and Terrabyte both did better today
Rest still is Rest. Could be anything
Zippedpinhead, whom I had down as only slightly scummy keeps fishing for redacted and in general just digs himself deeper
So I'm torn between following my D4 reads or go after Zipped...
Regarding Rest he was one of the first to cast doubt upon CzarTim (didn't vote for him). I don't see why Despair would start bussing Czar that early and had that been the case I think Rest would have voted for Czar as well.
Take care TL21xx! Hopefully you will be able to join us in another game if you have time!
At that time during Day 2 I believed that both Crab and Kgtrep were Hope ( along with CzarTim and a bit with AB for that matter ) and since none of us had spoken about Fight Club I didn't want to sit and be like 'oh, I can't vote for who I want BUT I can do stuff at night lol'. So I soft-claimed the Ordinary Student so I could blend in and not stick out for Despair to go after, especially after what happened with Makai and his role claim I did not want the same to happen to me. I will admit, at that time, I did think one of the people I saw was the killer on Night 1 but I didn't really put two-and-two together that Fight Club would lead Despair to get a kill-list of PRs.
At that time during Day 2 I believed that both Crab and Kgtrep were Hope ( along with CzarTim and a bit with AB for that matter ) and since none of us had spoken about Fight Club I didn't want to sit and be like 'oh, I can't vote for who I want BUT I can do stuff at night lol'. So I soft-claimed the Ordinary Student so I could blend in and not stick out for Despair to go after, especially after what happened with Makai and his role claim I did not want the same to happen to me. I will admit, at that time, I did think one of the people I saw was the killer on Night 1 but I didn't really put two-and-two together that Fight Club would lead Despair to get a kill-list of PRs.
This flavor is legit depressing, god damn
How familiar with the source material are you?