Samuel is 1cm bigger actually, my bad
Daredevil's Charlie Cox announces filming date for The Defenders
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Samuel is 1cm bigger actually, my bad
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In the very same post I said I'm going to watch Cage. I agree that its unfair to judge him as a minor character. His first impression was bland but I'm more than willing to give Sweet Christmas! a chance.
Byakuya769
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I liked the show, but can anyone really disagree with this? JJ's action was AWFUL.
WickedLaharl
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Yup. It was shit. I would say pure shit if it wasn't for David Tennant.
call_kotaku
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I don't see how she was written badly, she just didn't act like a traditional superhero does, even dysfunctional ones. Like I said, people usually come to these types of shows for action pieces and have powers be either tools to resolve the plot or puzzles for the heroes to solve. The only relevant power is Kilgrave's, and even that is iffy at best.
Besides, it's sort of hypocritical to say you support tackling these issues and then say that Jessica Jones needs to go away. Lots of media does it really badly for sure, but I think the critical consensus for the show demonstrates that they're doing it well.
The amount of praise the show gets from people who don't care at all about Marvel's other offerings demonstrates that it appeals outside the usual demographic, though personally I don't enjoy the show as much as I did the 2 seasons of Daredevil even though JJ is better-made. The fact that it exists and Marvel is willing to broaden itself both in terms of tone and audience is a good thing, and there isn't any reason to be upset about it.
Remember when this super secret giant criminal empire that caused a guy that talked to impale himself to avoid scrutiny fell apart within like five minutes after a single confession? Great writing there.
Both shows do very different things and have pretty big problems. They're still enjoyable for the most part.
Both shows do very different things and have pretty big problems. They're still enjoyable for the most part.
Yea. The action was nothing to write home about and was the worst part of the show. Best parts were Killgrave, Her relationship with him and overcoming the abuse she endured because of him. I also think the show was about 3-4 episodes too long.
peanutbutterlatte
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I really don't think they're as disparate as you claim... they're both darker takes on the MCU for sure, it's not like they're having Killgrave show up on Agents of Shield to mentally torture one of the charisma devoid action figure characters.
Why does every Jessica Jones/Daredevil thread always deteriorate into which show is better haha.
Can't wait to see this though but the question remains who's going to be the big bad that requires them all to team up? The shows are also pretty different in tone so I'm not sure how well they are going to mash up but Marvel proved me wrong before.
Can't wait to see this though but the question remains who's going to be the big bad that requires them all to team up? The shows are also pretty different in tone so I'm not sure how well they are going to mash up but Marvel proved me wrong before.
I like Daredevil season 1 more then Jessica Jones, but that finale was worse then anything in JJ.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
That's how I felt watching Jessica Jones.
But the show had so much more going on than the action scenes that it really didn't matter much.
Yes, the action was poor but there wasn't much of it and it had interesting stuff going on instead.
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peanutbutterlatte
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I feel like after DD S2 it's pretty obvious who.
The Hand w/ Zombie Elektra leading the charge. Possibly to do with whatever's down that big ol' hole
That's true. It's just that I was thinking about what a conversation between Matt, Foggy and Jessica Jones would sound like and I couldn't picture it because DD's dialogue is written so differently. It's got a comic book corniness too it, JJ's is way more straightforward except for the slight noir vibes.
The Artisan
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i'm about sick of always having to buy new clothes...
...the king of the town, yeah I've been that.
WrenchNinja
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But maguires facial expressionsYou mean
DryEyeRelief
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like what?
these are the guys I think of when I hear Defenders, was a bit confused for a second there.
peanutbutterlatte
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They can always change the tone between series anyway. I mean hell, in the comics Jess shows up in plenty of trades that aren't "Alias" levels of dark. It's like in the movie division how in Avengers Cap is in a saturated red and blue outfit and in Winter Soldier he's in a stealh suit murking mercs over the side of a boat.
Hey maybe in this one we can get an Avenger referred to by name
'Maybe if he had an iron suit'
'The green guy'
THEY HAVE NAMES THEY ARE EVERYWHERE
WickedLaharl
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Definitely. Its what they'll have to do. I'm just curious what direction they are going to take to do this, and what they'll have to change to get it there
The characters and the character drama.
The relationship between her and Purple Man. The messed up stuff he did to her and how she was dealing with that and also how he was trying to "get her back" and was totally delusional about the entire situation.
Luke Cage and him dealing with the loss of his wife and then meeting Jessica Jones and how that unfolded.
The situations resolved around more than "beating up duded". It was more about character drama and dealing with Purple Man's powers.
Also, the whole exploration of Purple Man as a character was super interesting too.
Alll of this got me way more engaged than anything Daredevil did.
The Artisan
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I fucking hated that mothafucker.Well obviously characters like will simpson!
Hellcat should be disturbed to death that she boned him (over and over again).
I wonder then, if that's the case, are we going to see them pop up in Jessica Jones season 2.
Not sure if they can combine the different tones plus the
supernatural elements
EDIT: And damn, I just realised
Frank is aware of the Hand's existence now, surely he'd want to take them out too.
Saucycarpdog
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And the bad subplots that went nowhere.
The Artisan
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na...I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't see jessica jones season 2 until AFTER defenders part 1.
they need to get that shit going yo.
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Deleted member 10571
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Is this random Jessica Jones hate a new internet anti-feminism thing? Why would anyone hate on that show, it's been great.
I know what shows are coming but I still don't know when they're coming so I just assume we were getting Jessica Jones season 2 later this year until I checked heh.
Either way it's exciting time, personally looking forward to the supposed Punisher series coming along.
The Artisan
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i'm all for a season 2 of that show but i don't want it till after defenders season 1. we got a second season of daredevil, which we deserved, but now we need to get all these mothafuckers together. it's like matt said in court, we need heroes (plural)
the punisher should be in the defenders too.
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So that's a "no", then? I'm honestly confused, I didn't expect JJ hate and sadly I wouldn't be surprised if some hate the show only on account of having a female lead. Wouldn't be the first time.
Mix Master
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you like daredevil except for the guy playing daredevil? the fuck?
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If you had read Zeit, you would know that the show is actually a superhero telenovela, mediocre and only got good reviews because it has a female lead. I wish I was making this up.
MHWilliams
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People wanted more Daredevil style fighting, they didn't get it. JJ had a different focus. Expect Luke Cage to be more like JJ. Expect Iron Fist to be more like DD.
Yeah. Season 2 actually made me hate Matt Murdock. Great show, but I dislike Murdock. The Punisher was more sympathetic and relatable.
The Artisan
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I didn't hate him but he did start doing some stupid fucking shit, and he was being mean to his friends.
DryEyeRelief
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or Robyn!
You let me be inside you.
busted out laughing at what was supposed to be a serious scene
If you're going to applaud a subplot taken out of Arrow, then you can at least admit that Daredevil is more than just punching bad guys.
QuantumZebra
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that's what it smells like, but who knows, this is GAF
we hate/like random movies and shows and that is subject to change within the span of a page
like I said some guy was on the TFA thread talking about how Divergent was better than Blade Runner
then somebody else showed up and said The Phantom Menace was better than The Force Awakens and the thread went:
That's really not that surprising, tbh I feel the same way. I thought DD could've been a lot better with some better dialogue (and possibly a different actor for Matt). JJ was far superior on the character / writing side (though D'Onofrio was good).
sure seems like it
Marvel makes their best TV show to date dealing with post rape PTSD and people's opinions are to kill off the main character
smh
MHWilliams
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This was pretty much the reason. "DD, that's dumb. Why are you doing that? Wait, your friends are right! What, are you serious?"
j0hnnix
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Yes.. Yes.. Yes.... I hope they improve on the show or fix all the shortcomings..
Cabbagehead
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Daredevil has always been a stubborn fool and is off and on with his friends because of easy to solve issue most of the time. Frankly Matt is a dick and at times a bad lawyer.
I love how some people's solution here for JJ is to just kill her off. Glad you guys have zero control.
Honestly I'd love that, though not as an active member since Frank is quite clearly a psychopath who gives no reprieve.
Plenty of people have said why they dislike Jessica Jones in this thread and it's not got to do with her being a woman.
EDIT: Personally speaking, I found it to be a great show that got worse as it went to the finish line but had a nice finale, whilst I felt Daredevil was great consistently then had an awful finale. I'd still recommend both shows though.
Cabbagehead
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Yeah and they can complain all they want but it isn't going to change the fact that JJ wasn't a failure for a majority of people. An that she's going to be in defenders regardless, despite certain people bringing up how much they dislike the show in every semi or related thread. We get it already... but it ain't going to change anything and you either hope they improve on its faults next time or some people have to let it go.
DD wasn't the golden child season 1 in my eyes and it had its missteps but i loved it and so did season 2 more so. An I'm hoping that JJ is better represented in the fuuture, since were out of her origin stage.
Read the fucking thread. People already expressed why they hate JJ, her being a woman is not the reason.
IMO I found JJ a boring show that everyone is an idiot and they simply expect things will fix themselves for no absolutely no reason.
The Artisan
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i would continue discussing this further, if you wanna get into spoilers and i'll tell you exactly why this bothers me so much.
is he a part of any superhero teams in the comics? if he is he should help out with the defenders.
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