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[v1perz53]

You know, I've never really minded palette swap/reused boss models as long as they have a unique moveset and are in a different arena. To me, the arena and moveset are what makes up a boss, not what his model happens to look like. I would prefer fresh models but not that big a deal. Especially if there are lore reasons why I am fighting a variation of a boss that already exists, I usually like that a lot because it ties the story together.

On the other hand, same model in the same arena with the same moves, I wouldn't be able to handle that. (not sure where

Spoiler

blue smelter

falls in the spectrum, just voicing my own general opinions)

 

[Hugstable]

Fume Knight is some bullshit.
Stop fucking healing you cunt!

Let's Positive Thinking!

 

[Rizzi]

You know, I've never really minded palette swap/reused boss models as long as they have a unique moveset and are in a different arena. To me, the arena and moveset are what makes up a boss, not what his model happens to look like. I would prefer fresh models but not that big a deal. Especially if there are lore reasons why I am fighting a variation of a boss that already exists, I usually like that a lot because it ties the story together.

On the other hand, same model in the same arena with the same moves, I wouldn't be able to handle that. (not sure where

Spoiler

blue smelter

falls in the spectrum, just voicing my own general opinions)

It's the exact same boss in a larger round room that has nothing in it.

Let's Positive Thinking!

I am positive that Fume Knight is a cunt.

 

[v1perz53]

It's the exact same boss in a larger round room that has nothing in it.

Yuck, this I disapprove of. Oh well, another good place to farm Sunlight Medals I guess.

 

[Rizzi]

Yuck, this I disapprove of. Oh well, another good place to farm Sunlight Medals I guess.

It's blue though. *cough*

 

[Orochinagis]

guess you guys make huge progress while I was sleeping.

 

[Foggy]

So we're not hiding boss spoilers? Good to know

 

[Orochinagis]

So we're not hiding boss spoilers? Good to know

Actually, no.

Please put in spoilers any info about the DLC,bosses and enemies too please, not everyone is playing the DLC right now. So please use the spoilers tag in the future.

 

[Foggy]

Actually, no.

Please put in spoilers any info about the DLC,bosses and enemies too please, not everyone is playing the DLC right now. So please use the spoilers tag in the future.

I was mostly being sarcastic. Luckily I'm not too bothered by spoilers, but it's still pretty lame to just throw it out there palette-swap or not. The last DLC's boss spoilers were hidden well, but maybe I just stumbled in here at the right time or something.

 

[Levyne]

You guys are making this sound pretty tough and challenging, can't wait to get home.

 

[DarkHeartedKill]

I know everyone is talking about the DLC, but man, pretty happy right now. First time making it to the Gargoyles and beating them while online, I tried a bit before but could never deal with the 2 invaders at the same time because they were often way higher level than me, so I always did gargoyles offline. I did cheese one of them by smashing him down the ladder, but hey all's fair in a 2v1.

That said, did they nerf the Gargoyles? I vividly remember frantically running around the room with 4 of them out chasing me around, but this time I never got more than 2 at a time until the end, when I had 3 for a few seconds. I've only ever fought them on NG so I am definitely not confusing it with NG+. And I didn't use strategy or anything, I had the first two at like 40% each at first and a third still didn't spawn till one was dead.

That's weird, from what I remember it depends on how much damage you do to their total health pool, if you do enough damage for a gargoyle to die, another spawns. So if you were to do 25% of ones health and 75% of the other, a third would spawn even though two are alive. I guess they found that, that was a stupid idea and made it so when a gargoyle dies another spawns, if that's the case OMGYES gargoyles will be much easier now.

 

[Hugstable]

That's weird, from what I remember it depends on how much damage you do to their total health pool, if you do enough damage for a gargoyle to die, another spawns. So if you were to do 25% of ones health and 75% of the other, a third would spawn even though two are alive. I guess they found that, that was a stupid idea and made it so when a gargoyle dies another spawns, if that's the case OMGYES gargoyles will be much easier now.

How do I get to the Gargs offline? Or how do I make the game offline, just disconnect my internet or something? I can't last more than 2 minutes everytime I enter the Belfry area and I know that's where the Gargoyles are. Are they even a needed boss or is it an optional area?

 

[v1perz53]

How do I get to the Gargs offline? Or how do I make the game offline, just disconnect my internet or something? I can't last more than 2 minutes everytime I enter the Belfry area and I know that's where the Gargoyles are. Are they even a needed boss or is it an optional area?

On PS3 you can just log off PSN and you will start in offline mode. On steam you can open steam in offline mode for a similar result. Not sure for Xbox 360. Disconnecting your internet will also work in all cases. Totally optional boss, but with some very nice loot and a key that makes the Sinner a bit easier.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Ok so I have 3 bosses left:

Spoiler

Royal Rat Authority, Vendrick, and Ancient Dragon.

Then I can enter NG+ finally!

Anyone have optimal strategies for a Greatsword/Sorcery/Bow build?

 

[Ruuppa]

Fume Knight is some bullshit.
Stop fucking healing you cunt!

Spoiler

Use Smelter Wedges on the 4 Ashen Idols outside of the boss arena. That'll stop the heals.

On PS3 you can just log off PSN and you will start in offline mode. On steam you can open steam in offline mode for a similar result. Not sure for Xbox 360. Disconnecting your internet will also work in all cases. Totally optional boss, but with some very nice loot and a key that makes the Sinner a bit easier.

Yup. Disconnect internet cable, reconnect it when you get the message about going into offline mode. Easy as pie.

 

[Orthogonal]

Is the DLC2 still closed for folks on the West Coast? Says I can't get in.

EDIT: Was I supposed to get an auto drop item like the first DLC? Didn't get anything when logging in.

 

[Zocano]

Fun being a PS3 user here.

Still no DLC |:

Also thanks for all the boss spoilers already.

 

[Rizzi]

Spoiler

Use Smelter Wedges on the 4 Ashen Idols outside of the boss arena. That'll stop the heals.

Yup. Disconnect internet cable, reconnect it when you get the message about going into offline mode. Easy as pie.

Spoiler

I already used all of them on the other idols in the dlc..

 

[Coriolanus]

Ok so I have 3 bosses left:

Anyone have optimal strategies for a Greatsword/Sorcery/Bow build?

For standard game? If you're going GS, ditch sorcery and get the Dragonrider bow if str focused, or hunter's blackbow / sea bow if dex. You'll do pretty much same damage as great heavy soul arrow spam without having to dump all the stats into int/attun, or having to bother with sorcerer gear, plus elemental arrows are far more versatile.

Hrm, that late game, though... if you have a lotta soul spears/ crystal soul spears, sorc might be worthwhile.

 

[Xeroblade]

Is the DLC2 still closed for folks on the West Coast? Says I can't get in.

EDIT: Was I supposed to get an auto drop item like the first DLC? Didn't get anything when logging in.

Are you on PC?

 

[ilium]

How Bad is the latest sorcery nerf, especially regarding spell speed? I only recently respecced to a sorcery build because i was tired of my faith paladin that i played to NG+++ and seeing those nerfs truly hurts my soul because i grew really fond of my katana wielding, witch hat + llewelyn set wearing sorcerer. Dat fashion souls...so good.
Also regarding a certain ring

Spoiler

is the magic clutch ring in the 2nd dlc?

 

[Xeroblade]

How Bad is the latest sorcery nerf, especially regarding spell speed? I only recently respecced to a sorcery build because i was tired of my faith paladin that i played to NG+++ and seeing those nerfs truly hurts my soul because i grew really fond of my katana wielding, witch hat + llewelyn set wearing sorcerer. Dat fashion souls...so good.
Also regarding a certain ring

Spoiler

is the magic clutch ring in the 2nd dlc?

I have 30 ATT, 37INT, and 37FTH. No rings and my cast speed is set a 100. fucking slow as hell to cast GRS and Sacred Oath and Greath Heal. but thats fine for me, spells should be used as a secondary like bows.

 

[Screaming Meat]

Is it me or has bow poise damage been nerfed?

 

[DarkHeartedKill]

Ok so I have 3 bosses left:

Spoiler

Royal Rat Authority, Vendrick, and Ancient Dragon.

Then I can enter NG+ finally!

Anyone have optimal strategies for a Greatsword/Sorcery/Bow build?

Read at your own discretion.

Spoiler

Well, for Vendrick all you gotta do is get the 5 Giant souls, which if you don't know where they are, I can help you with that. Each Giant Souls reduces his physical defense, without them he has like 32x physical defense. Anyways, if you stay at his left leg and a little to hit butt all his attacks will miss you, and you can hit him once or twice after he swings. Makes him super easy. Ancient, on the other hand is an annoying boss, he has never been consistent with me, he constantly does a different moves each time I meet him, even though the way I fight him doesn't change :/.

 

[Conezays]

Is the DLC2 still closed for folks on the West Coast? Says I can't get in.

EDIT: Was I supposed to get an auto drop item like the first DLC? Didn't get anything when logging in.

Read my post above

 

[Orochinagis]

Ok so I have 3 bosses left:

Spoiler

Royal Rat Authority, Vendrick, and Ancient Dragon.

Then I can enter NG+ finally!

Anyone have optimal strategies for a Greatsword/Sorcery/Bow build?

For spells go for the soul greatsword,heavy soul arrow, soul spear, homing soulmass and great magic weapon. Of course I want to think you already have the wisdom staff infused with magic.


For weapons you can use the moonlight greatsword (ng+ only) which scales with Int and for bows the great bow dropped by the alonnes capitans

 

[Orthogonal]

Are you on PC?

Yes

Read my post above

Ah, didn't see that, good find. I had opened the DLC menu and it said Old Iron King was not installed. I just restarted Steam and it changed to Installed. Thanks

 

[Xeroblade]

Yes



Ah, didn't see that, good find. I had opened the DLC menu and it said Old Iron King was not installed. I just restarted Steam and it changed to Installed. Thanks

Ah good you figured it out! I had to do the same thing.

 

[Conezays]

Yes



Ah, didn't see that, good find. I had opened the DLC menu and it said Old Iron King was not installed. I just restarted Steam and it changed to Installed. Thanks

No problem. Definitely a bit convoluted/irritating. I assume Steam will fix it later today for those who've yet to play.

 

[Ruuppa]

For those wondering where to get the DLC armorsets:

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Magerold sells Sir Alonne's and Raime's set after you've beaten them.

 

[Cloudius12]

is it me or is the Moonlight Great Sword bugged?

One Handed or 2 Handed, the weapon does the same damage?

 

[SoldnerKei]

For those wondering where to get the DLC armorsets:

Spoiler

Magerold sells Sir Alonne's and Raime's set after you've beaten them.

is

Spoiler

Sir Alonne

alike to his knights' armor?? cause that thing is hella ugly IMO lol

still 5 hrs till I can play ; -;

 

[Xeroblade]

is it me or is the Moonlight Great Sword bugged?

One Handed or 2 Handed, the weapon does the same damage?

lol really!? this i have to see.

 

[v1perz53]

For all the people posting about spell nerfs, my Lightning Spear and Greater Lightning Spear seem actually better overall. I only have a lightning Priest's Chime +3 and 42 faith and I am doing similar damage to what I remember doing on my 50 faith character with a lightning Dragon Chime +5 right after the last number of casts nerf. Maybe they finally added in the damage boost there was supposed to be last nerf?

Cast time doesn't seem very different to me, but I only have 19 atn and no ring, so I'm sure it's mostly people using the +2 ring that will notice it bad. I should go on my Sor/Hex build and see if I notice it there.

And I agree with above that I prefer magic to be supplemental to melee combat as opposed to instead of it, since magic has so many advantages to melee that if you could fight solely with it, it is a bit too powerful. Used to be limited casts balanced it, but with herbs you can get around that as quickly as if you were using an estus mid boss.

 

[Ruuppa]

is

Spoiler

Sir Alonne

alike to his knights' armor?? cause that thing is hella ugly IMO lol

still 5 hrs till I can play ; -;

Spoiler

His armor looks more like the Eastern Set that Shiva wears, from DkS1.

lol really!? this i have to see.

IIRC two-handing a weapon only increases the physical damage. And Moonlight has 0 of that, unless it's Enchanted. Could be wrong though.

 

[DarkHeartedKill]

For all the people posting about spell nerfs, my Lightning Spear and Greater Lightning Spear seem actually better overall. I only have a lightning Priest's Chime +3 and 42 faith and I am doing similar damage to what I remember doing on my 50 faith character with a lightning Dragon Chime +5 right after the last number of casts nerf. Maybe they finally added in the damage boost there was supposed to be last nerf?

Cast time doesn't seem very different to me, but I only have 19 atn and no ring, so I'm sure it's mostly people using the +2 ring that will notice it bad. I should go on my Sor/Hex build and see if I notice it there.

And I agree with above that I prefer magic to be supplemental to melee combat as opposed to instead of it, since magic has so many advantages to melee that if you could fight solely with it, it is a bit too powerful. Used to be limited casts balanced it, but with herbs you can get around that as quickly as if you were using an estus mid boss.

Yeah they finally fixed the error that reduced damage rather than boosting it. So now I'm less butthurt about the casting nerf, clerics seem to be viable again. However, it did take a hit in poise damage, which in PvE shouldn't matter too terribly, but if you PvP you'll notice it I guess.

 

[Mistel]

IIRC two-handing a weapon only increases the physical damage. And Moonlight has 0 of that, unless it's Enchanted. Could be wrong though.

No that's right because it doesn't do physical other than as an enchanted weapon it doesn't benefit from being two handed.

 

[Xeroblade]

IIRC two-handing a weapon only increases the physical damage. And Moonlight has 0 of that, unless it's Enchanted. Could be wrong though.

I guess i never really noticed that lol!

 

[CyberPunked]

Where do you get

Spoiler

Artorias'

sword?

 

[Jaeger]

Fume Knight is some bullshit.
Stop fucking healing you cunt!

You probably didn't notice the

Spoiler

fire things with Nadalia's Soul all round the room, huh?

That's what healing him.

And everyone please use spoilers, please.

 

[neoism]

Holy crap! Why am I at work?

Ifeelyourpain .jpg

 

[NaturalHigh]

Downloading now! Where do I go to delve into the new content?

 

[Ruuppa]

Where do you get

Spoiler

Artorias'

sword?

Spoiler

Bottom of the tower where Mal-something the Assassin invades you. It's the lone tower you see after your very first encounter with the Fume Sorcerers.

 

[Mistel]

Downloading now! Where do I go to delve into the new content?

Iron kings primal bonfire.

 

[Xeroblade]

I think its funny that as soon as a dlc comes out 10k players come out of nowhere and start playing. jerks.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Read at your own discretion.

Spoiler

Well, for Vendrick all you gotta do is get the 5 Giant souls, which if you don't know where they are, I can help you with that. Each Giant Souls reduces his physical defense, without them he has like 32x physical defense. Anyways, if you stay at his left leg and a little to hit butt all his attacks will miss you, and you can hit him once or twice after he swings. Makes him super easy. Ancient, on the other hand is an annoying boss, he has never been consistent with me, he constantly does a different moves each time I meet him, even though the way I fight him doesn't change :/.

Spoiler

I used two of the Great Souls to make weapons @_@. The Lost Sinner's Sword is my main greatsword, so I now need the Dragon soul to beat Vendrick.

For standard game? If you're going GS, ditch sorcery and get the Dragonrider bow if str focused, or hunter's blackbow / sea bow if dex. You'll do pretty much same damage as great heavy soul arrow spam without having to dump all the stats into int/attun, or having to bother with sorcerer gear, plus elemental arrows are far more versatile.

Hrm, that late game, though... if you have a lotta soul spears/ crystal soul spears, sorc might be worthwhile.

I have the bow but it kills my stamina after 2 shots. Spam with the staff and souls arrows, I can get 6-7 shots with great heavy soul arrows.
I'm willing to respec, but I dunno how advantageous less INT and more STR and DEX will be in Endgame. I want to finish the game with all bosses defeated and

Spoiler

Rat Authority

is a bastard.

 

[v1perz53]

I think its funny that as soon as a dlc comes out 10k players come out of nowhere and start playing. jerks.

Hey, works for me, made getting my last 10 sunlight medals and a bunch of Titanite Chunks from Bell Keeping that much easier!

Spoiler

I used two of the Great Souls to make weapons @_@. The Lost Sinner's Sword is my main greatsword, so I now need the Dragon soul to beat Vendrick.

No, the

Spoiler

giant souls

he is talking about are different. You

Spoiler

can't make weapons from them

. You get the ones you need for

Spoiler

Vendrick

from

Spoiler

Giant's memories areas, and the giants under Black Gulch

.

 

[Mistel]

Spoiler

I used two of the Great Souls to make weapons @_@. The Lost Sinner's Sword is my main greatsword, so I now need the Dragon soul to beat Vendrick.

Great souls aren't giant souls they're different.

 

[Cloudius12]

IIRC two-handing a weapon only increases the physical damage. And Moonlight has 0 of that, unless it's Enchanted. Could be wrong though.

No that's right because it doesn't do physical other than as an enchanted weapon it doesn't benefit from being two handed.

wat...

Wasn't like this before the patch.

 

[CyberPunked]

Spoiler

Bottom of the tower where Mal-something the Assassin invades you. It's the lone tower you see after your very first encounter with the Fume Sorcerers.

The tower where you get the

Spoiler

Scorching Iron Scepter

?