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Dark Souls II |OT++| Bearer of...Seek...Seek...Lest

Quick question: To buff other players with the Channeler Trident's two hand R2 attack, you need to meet its stat requirements, right? My character has under 15 DEX and can do the R2 dance, but it does nothing (except look awesome). I mainly use it as a gesture when I am summoned.
 

impact

Banned
You might be right. They probably improved the net code, but since we have issues with hit boxes it doesn't feel as it actually improved.

But I've been lagstabbed a few times already. Though not as much as in the original Dark Souls. Today playing on the Blue Sentinels arena I was exactly behind a guy and instead of back stabbing him the game just made his character appear in front of me facing me and take a normal hit. I still won the match, but the lag was kind of annoying.

Odd. Do you have the option checked to play with people from all regions?

No matter how good a netcode is, there's gonna be lag with people from all around the world playing in your room.
 
Spend this evening bellbroing for hidden weapon, I feel dirty

Why?

I actually think the area (at least Luna, which is the one I have the most experience with) is very well designed so it's pretty fair both for invader and invaded. Sure, sometimes you can team up on the invaded, but this is balanced by only the host having access to healing items. And with the various holes in the grounds there are a lot of opportunities for the host to run away and heal. Since the invader can't heal, one strategy for a patient host is to repeatedly drop down into the area you can only reach by falling to force the invaders to follow and take fall damage that they can't get rid of. One guy/girl I was playing against had this strategy.

And if someone really is having problems with the invasions, there are lots of options. They can burn an effigy, they can summon a phantom or, since the area is so small, they can run to the fog wall before the invader has the time to spawn.
 

Finalow

Member
hosting a fight club at Iron Keep bridge was fun.

now taking a break from this game, I think 100+ hours are enough for now.
 

Soulhouf

Member
Darklurker
The fight was taking forever with my pure physical build and I ended up dying every time.
So I did respec to a pure faith build and the boss died in... 5 Great Lightning Spear.
Is this a joke?
For fuck's sake, Fromsoft, please re-balance this fucking game. Magic is so OP compared to physical builds. This is not funny :x
 

Arjen

Member
Why?

I actually think the area (at least Luna, which is the one I have the most experience with) is very well designed so it's pretty fair both for invader and invaded. Sure, sometimes you can team up on the invaded, but this is balanced by only the host having access to healing items. And with the various holes in the grounds there are a lot of opportunities for the host to run away and heal. Since the invader can't heal, one strategy for a patient host is to repeatedly drop down into the area you can only reach by falling to force the invaders to follow and take fall damage that they can't get rid of. One guy/girl I was playing against had this strategy.

And if someone really is having problems with the invasions, there are lots of options. They can burn an effigy, they can summon a phantom or, since the area is so small, they can run to the fog wall before the invader has the time to spawn.

I was in Sol, most of the times it was 2 v 1. Pretty unfair, but I needed my achievement.
 
Is there any good pre-NG+ checklists out there? I'm paranoid that I'm going to miss something before taking the plunge.

Also, am I better off just progressing through NG+/++ to get the platinum? I feel it will take me longer to rank 3 all the covenants than just running through the game to get all the sorceries/hexes/miracles/pyros...
 

Gigarator

Member
Darklurker
The fight was taking forever with my pure physical build and I ended up dying every time.
So I did respec to a pure faith build and the boss died in... 5 Great Lightning Spear.
Is this a joke?
For fuck's sake, Fromsoft, please re-balance this fucking game. Magic is so OP compared to physical builds. This is not funny :x

That fight does seem almost impossible to do as pure melee. It's no real issue until
they split but at that point trying to avoid the attacks while they're on two opposite sides of the arena becomes impossible.

In the end I used a gold pine on my mastodon halberd +10 and just went to town 2 handed. I ended up killing it before the split could happen, after all those defeats it was just a relief to have it out of the way. I don't think I'll ever bother trying to kill that boss again.
 
Darklurker
The fight was taking forever with my pure physical build and I ended up dying every time.
So I did respec to a pure faith build and the boss died in... 5 Great Lightning Spear.
Is this a joke?
For fuck's sake, Fromsoft, please re-balance this fucking game. Magic is so OP compared to physical builds. This is not funny :x

I used the same tactic, it was a very underwhelming fight.
 
Stone trader? She sell unlimited shards so does McDuff.

I think I haven't gotten far enough in the game yet. Stone trader only sells ordinary Shards (or rather sold, she is out of stock now) and McDuff doesn't sell me anything. Only rambles. Someone had left a "Weakness: Head" message nearby him and I found it very accurate.
 
Could've sworn there was an NPC that sells an item which lets you upgrade your Intelligence for 20,000 souls, can't remember who though :(



Doubt I'll have the patience to beat the
Ancient Dragon
with the massive gap between him and the nearest bonfire. Could do with that
Soul of a Giant
though :(
 

Mistel

Banned
I think I haven't gotten far enough in the game yet. Stone trader only sells ordinary Shards (or rather sold, she is out of stock now) and McDuff doesn't sell me anything. Only rambles. Someone had left a "Weakness: Head" message nearby him and I found it very accurate.
Ahh the early game resource plight it's going to be the death of me on my co-op character. Kill old ironclads for large titanite shards they drop lots of them, strike damage is their weakness.
 

Jaeger

Member
PVP

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2AdEPT

Member
Taken from the stream of my first Dark Souls 2 playthrough. Here is Episode 1 of a video series that will showcase all of my deaths.

Dark Souls 2 - So, This Is How We Died. Episode 1

Sit back, relax, and please excuse the cursing.

Hahaha...yeah the ballista kill is classic....good stuff and fellow Canadian?

I think I haven't gotten far enough in the game yet. Stone trader only sells ordinary Shards (or rather sold, she is out of stock now) and McDuff doesn't sell me anything. Only rambles. Someone had left a "Weakness: Head" message nearby him and I found it very accurate.

make sure to plow ahead and find what mcduff is mumbling about....his weakness is his head for sure but there is a cure and he spells it out for you. I didn't rest until I found that friggin thing and then eventually went back to all the optional bosses I left behind with proper weaponry. You are on the right track if you found Chloanne. Only
1 level two bosses
between her and the prize!!!!
 

Wolff

Member
Trying to git gud on PVP today i ended up receiving my first hate message ever. lol That was fun, specially because he was that type of guy that played dirty. The dude's pretty fast too, cause he sent me a "fuck you" like 2 seconds after i killed him.

BTW, is dual katanas bad for PVP or something? i never seen anyone using, and that's what i'm using now.
 
make sure to plow ahead and find what mcduff is mumbling about....his weakness is his head for sure but there is a cure and he spells it out for you. I didn't rest until I found that friggin thing and then eventually went back to all the optional bosses I left behind with proper weaponry. You are on the right track if you found Chloanne. Only
1 level two bosses
between her and the prize!!!!

I think I have
beaten the two bosses you are talking about
but I didn't feel like going through the area after that. Guess I should make that a priority then. Thanks!

I've just made innuendos all over the place.

As for PvP:
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I'm not clever enough to come up with good innuendo messages that haven't already been done to death :(

I had a legit draw in PvP today. I grey spirit invaded a guy in really heavy armor in the Luna Belltower. He was an asshole that tried to hide behind my spawn point to get a backstab off immediately and he was lag hitting me all over the place. The fight ended with us trading blows that killed each other. While I wasn't credited with a win, I feel I somehow got the moral victory.
 

2AdEPT

Member
Trying to git gud on PVP today i ended up receiving my first hate message ever. lol That was fun, specially because he was that type of guy that played dirty. The dude's pretty fast too, cause he sent me a "fuck you" like 2 seconds after i killed him.

BTW, is dual katanas bad for PVP or something? i never seen anyone using, and that's what i'm using now.

Well I pretty much suck at PVP but dual katanas are viable...I use a rapier for my left hand instead of a second katana, its also a lot lighter....even more viable if you buff, which I did not...got a couple wins, but yeah the tough ones to beat are the longer reach weapons, i.e. washing pole, chaos blade, santier's spear, defenders sword...all buffed, and I think Dark is thebest buff isnt it??.....may want to join their club if you want to do a bit better at PVP....still its a little more rewarding to get a Darkdrift kill than those mentioned no? I dint mind dying a lot and fighting people with better skill, higher levels and better gear....more satisfaction if I actually pull off a victory.

I think I have
beaten the two bosses you are talking about
but I didn't feel like going through the area after that. Guess I should make that a priority then. Thanks!



I'm not clever enough to come up with good innuendo messages that haven't already been done to death :(

I had a legit draw in PvP today. I grey spirit invaded a guy in really heavy armor in the Luna Belltower. He was an asshole that tried to hide behind my spawn point to get a backstab off immediately and he was lag hitting me all over the place. The fight ended with us trading blows that killed each other. While I wasn't credited with a win, I feel I somehow got the moral victory.
Yep figuring out which items are worth the struggle in that area is still hard ...but you are close!!! Hahahaha on the messages......no one get's/(or perhaps they think its TOO dirty) my extremely dirty message:
try chest and then be wary of projectile.....guess I need to lay off the porn in between boss runs.
 
Could've sworn there was an NPC that sells an item which lets you upgrade your Intelligence for 20,000 souls, can't remember who though :(



Doubt I'll have the patience to beat the
Ancient Dragon
with the massive gap between him and the nearest bonfire. Could do with that
Soul of a Giant
though :(

Just bonfire acetic the Black Gulch and farm a second from the set of two giants in that level. The only remaining enemies on that level are the dark pool worms (which you can kill easily with a fire arrow for a distance to each of their little pools) and the large worms that come out of those two holes. And, the boss. :)
 
I used the same tactic, it was a very underwhelming fight.

Haha. Did the exact same thing.

My reliance on Great Lightning Spears this play-through has turned me into an absolute wuss of a player. I can't believe my first play-through was with nothing a but a slow, albeit very hard-hitting hammer. I was dodging everything and throwing caution to the wind. It was a lot more stressful, I can tell you that.

Now I just sit back and hurl Spears of Unbalance at my enemies like a big pansy.
 

Jaeger

Member
Just bonfire acetic the Black Gulch and farm a second from the set of two giants in that level. The only remaining enemies on that level are the dark pool worms (which you can kill easily with a fire arrow for a distance to each of their little pools) and the large worms that come out of those two holes. And, the boss. :)

Which Bonfire do I need to Ascetic?

Edit - Nevermind.
 

maomaoIYP

Member
Trying to git gud on PVP today i ended up receiving my first hate message ever. lol That was fun, specially because he was that type of guy that played dirty. The dude's pretty fast too, cause he sent me a "fuck you" like 2 seconds after i killed him.

BTW, is dual katanas bad for PVP or something? i never seen anyone using, and that's what i'm using now.

The only reason to dual anything in PvP is only if the power stancing moveset adds something substantial for usage. For example a 1H R1 that produces vertical moveset while the power stance L1 gives a horizontal. The strength of the katana lies in their long range from their running attack, so most people stay away from power stance.

fake edit: Just played a dude who parryed my homing soulmass, very impressed.
real edit:
I still beat him though.
 

Soulhouf

Member
I pumped my agility to 110 to see what happens. Holy crap, I am untouchable now.
Also that estus chugging speed. I wonder if I can go back to 85 agility now that I got used to this.

Other than that, I payed Vendrick a visit.
This fight is going to take a while.
I'm doing a crap amount of damage so the battle lasts forever.
I can dodge all his attacks but I always end up loosing my focus and get greedy.
 

Jaeger

Member
I pumped my agility to 110 to see what happens. Holy crap, I am untouchable now.
Also that estus chugging speed. I wonder if I can go back to 85 agility now that I got used to this.

Other than that, I payed Vendrick a visit.
This fight is going to take a while.
I'm doing a crap amount of damage so the battle lasts forever.
I can dodge all his attacks but I always end up loosing my focus and get greedy.

Soul of Giants makes his health/def nonexistent. Stay around his left leg, and he can't ever touch you with his sword.

Question, Ruler's Sword, or King's Ultra Greatsword?
 

Mistel

Banned
Hahahaha on the messages......no one get's/(or perhaps they think its TOO dirty) my extremely dirty message:
try chest and then be wary of projectile.....guess I need to lay off the porn in between boss runs.
You mean you don't multi task? I put that same message down myself I thought it was tame.
I'm not clever enough to come up with good innuendo messages that haven't already been done to death :(

I had a legit draw in PvP today. I grey spirit invaded a guy in really heavy armor in the Luna Belltower. He was an asshole that tried to hide behind my spawn point to get a backstab off immediately and he was lag hitting me all over the place. The fight ended with us trading blows that killed each other. While I wasn't credited with a win, I feel I somehow got the moral victory.
It is a shame but more worth it when you get a nice long one with the endurance to last?

I've just had Alonne Captains finish things off for me really. I've not traded kills at all.
 

Sande

Member
No deaths playthrough is surprisingly doable. On my first proper attempt I had 2 deaths (first against
Old iron king
, second in
Dragon Shrine
because I wasn't as careful anymore) and finished in just under 10 hours. Definitely going to have another go at it soon.

The only reason to dual anything in PvP is only if the power stancing moveset adds something substantial for usage.
Sigh, tell me about it. I tried dual-wielding two greatswords because of dat damage, but why bother when people can stunlock you with something faster and deal as much if not more damage before you manage to roll away.
 

Soulhouf

Member
Soul of Giants makes his health/def nonexistent. Stay around his left leg, and he can't ever touch you with his sword.

Question, Ruler's Sword, or King's Ultra Greatsword?

What? I already consumed 3 of souls of giants. Woes me, never occured to me that they could be useful.
 

maomaoIYP

Member
Sigh, tell me about it. I tried dual-wielding two greatswords because of dat damage, but why bother when people can stunlock you with something faster and deal as much if not more damage before you manage to roll away.

Yup. The ultra greatswords and great hammers are useless in PvP when power stanced. Their advantage lies with their ridiculous range and immense damage output. A proper greatsword class kills in 2 hits.
My build was this: Enough STR to two hand the sword. Enough FAI to cast sunlight blade.
+10 lightning infusion. Bait enemies to whiff their attacks, then smash with jumping R2. Mix with rolling and running attacks. Kills in 2 hits.
 
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