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Dark Souls III |OT+2| Why Can't We Poise the Game?
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Buying this was a bad idea. All I've been playing since I got it. Finally made it to Lothric Castle where I've been stuck the past few days. These knights are tough fuckers.
This also made me revisit DS2 to see if I could make any headway in actually enjoying it and it's actually making all of the issues I had with DS2 resonate even further. DS3 feels like a successor to Dark Souls. DS2 feels like a weird imitation that's kinda got it but not quite. Everything feels just... off. Especially character movement.
This also made me revisit DS2 to see if I could make any headway in actually enjoying it and it's actually making all of the issues I had with DS2 resonate even further. DS3 feels like a successor to Dark Souls. DS2 feels like a weird imitation that's kinda got it but not quite. Everything feels just... off. Especially character movement.
maybe i just need to git gud
Red Liquorice
Member
The ones she doesn't take you know are safe to give to miracle lady, that's how I always remember any way heehee!
This kind of stuff illustrates how little I've played DS3 compared to the other Soulsborne games, I can't remember all this where as every NPC event in the other games is burned into my memory.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
Is there a NIOH thread yet?
It's not too hard a build actually its pretty decent to go with the fist weapons but unless you've got practice you might struggle in PvP. I feel they're a bit of a downgrade from DS2 though.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
If you mean an OT, the game isn't out til February, so no. But there have been threads discussing the beta and such before.
Well, glad I haven't played the game in a week then.
Where's a good early farming spot for souls to level up at?
I just lost 14000 souls I could've used to level up from 28 Depraved (need to get my STR/DEX and Int and the other one--faith stat--to at least 20-30 for weapons and stuff to be equipped). So I think the area I'm in (if I can pull summons) should work.
I'm honestly shocked I've gotten to the Lost Cathedral (or whatever that has the blood loss worms) with just the Uchikatana and like the chain-mail armor and the East-West Shield. D: Granted, with some co-op help, but still...
Nice. And Uchigatana is great. Most weapons in the game are viable to play the whole game with.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Invading on bosses, is some of the most fun I had on a DS game. Period.
And is not one-sided as it might look, bosses still can hurt invaders and more than often they focus on the invader, also invaders do hurt bosses so is kind of balanced in a chaotic awesome way.
Is awesome for both the invader and the one getting the invasion...IMO lol
And is not one-sided as it might look, bosses still can hurt invaders and more than often they focus on the invader, also invaders do hurt bosses so is kind of balanced in a chaotic awesome way.
Is awesome for both the invader and the one getting the invasion...IMO lol
Just for fun: How could it be officially sanctioned? Boss invasions, I mean.
I agree since the boss can hit the invaders as well it can create for some really amazing encounters -- But in a Souls game, unless the boss is specifically designed around this idea (which is very rare), people have the expectation of being able to PVE them.
What could be done to incorporate boss invasions but have it be fair, voluntary, and incentivized so that hosts will want to do it?
I agree since the boss can hit the invaders as well it can create for some really amazing encounters -- But in a Souls game, unless the boss is specifically designed around this idea (which is very rare), people have the expectation of being able to PVE them.
What could be done to incorporate boss invasions but have it be fair, voluntary, and incentivized so that hosts will want to do it?
Without watching a boss invasion I assume the boss isn't tracking the reds, if it was I am certain they would be sending "you and that boss ganked me, pos!" messages.
Keeping it fair? Host has two phantoms and invader can draw aggro works for me but it is a cheat that the game isn't aware of, so no thanks. I never had it happen in dk2 but if you were online the 3-3? boss was going to be human. That was often amazing.
How do you use them? Mine did nothing when I used it with a lot of enemies and an invader.
You just use them that's it as they gain a status effect from it, although I don't why it would not work.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
They track the reds, because it seems you work like a white phantom who can damage players. Normal enemies do track you and attacks you (without seed of the giant), and bosses too.
Players can even send you home with the black crystal, which is the most common counter people uses.
So I tried to use the rapier with my mage and damn is this weapon a pain in PvE. No range, a terrible hitbox and nothing to counter multiple enemies.
Tried to kill the big tree with it but lol. This does not work.
I'll have to get something different. Maybe the broadsword again.
Tried to kill the big tree with it but lol. This does not work.
I'll have to get something different. Maybe the broadsword again.
You might want to try the estoc instead of a rapier it has a much better moveset.
Red Liquorice
Member
Horses for courses, I've been a fan of rapiers since Demon's Souls
I will say there's a way of playing with rapiers that might be different to other weapons, I tend to do a fair bit of camera tilting when not locked on to take advantage of the verticality of Souls sword combat (like tilting down to hit crystal lizards or hitting the target points on the tree boss, with a more vertical weapon you can just press attack, but with a purely forward poke of a rapier, the camera tilt gives you more options for targeting). Like Stormtrooper says try the Estoc the horizontal swipes on the R2 give it a more versatile moveset and opportunity for crowd control.
I will say there's a way of playing with rapiers that might be different to other weapons, I tend to do a fair bit of camera tilting when not locked on to take advantage of the verticality of Souls sword combat (like tilting down to hit crystal lizards or hitting the target points on the tree boss, with a more vertical weapon you can just press attack, but with a purely forward poke of a rapier, the camera tilt gives you more options for targeting). Like Stormtrooper says try the Estoc the horizontal swipes on the R2 give it a more versatile moveset and opportunity for crowd control.
I'm a Sunbro. I HATE invasions.
In any case: Leveled up from like 24 to 31 or so today. Though leveling up the required stats for Bursting Flame was SO NOT WORTH IT. OMG.
So now I'm probably going to get the next 14,000 souls required to get Faron's Magic Sword usable and then raise faith with STR/DEX to the maximum required for weapon equips before boosting HP and Stamina.
Horses for courses, I've been a fan of rapiers since Demon's Souls
I will say there's a way of playing with rapiers that might be different to other weapons, I tend to do a fair bit of camera tilting when not locked on to take advantage of the verticality of Souls sword combat (like tilting down to hit crystal lizards or hitting the target points on the tree boss, with a more vertical weapon you can just press attack, but with a purely forward poke of a rapier, the camera tilt gives you more options for targeting). Like Stormtrooper says try the Estoc the horizontal swipes on the R2 give it a more versatile moveset and opportunity for crowd control.
Thank you two, I think I'll try the Estoc then.
I think Greirat should sell it now, as I killed the tree (after multiple tries with that damn rapier)
Seriously, standing in front of enemies not hitting them is frustrating af. No thanks, thats not my weapon.
Red Liquorice
Member
As a faster weapon it is good for building bleed and using with the ring that increases damage with successive hits. Each weapon/moveset has it's positives and negatives.
finalflame
Banned
So, when is the next DLC supposed to be out? We still have one more to go, right?
StoppedInTracks
Member
I really miss this game. It was perfect
If you want the most out of it you need to level both... But definitely dex first if you're using it as you level up.
I found this doc that shows the scaling of every weapon with every infusion. Some of you might find it useful.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Yes, it's a quality weapon. You should go for 40/40.
I think it has B DEX scaling at +5, so if you want to go pure DEX is still good. Unless you want to max it's damage.
Will do, then. Thanks.
I'm not interested in PvP at all, but I'm looking to up its damage as I go through the game, plus it's nice to not be as helpless as I usually am if someone happens to invade me.
I actually take down some of the people who invade me in this game, which usually never happens for me in Souls games.
I'm not interested in PvP at all, but I'm looking to up its damage as I go through the game, plus it's nice to not be as helpless as I usually am if someone happens to invade me.
I actually take down some of the people who invade me in this game, which usually never happens for me in Souls games.
It's not a quality weapon at all it is a DEX oriented great sword with D/C scaling
Ideally if you do go 40/40 you might benefit from a weapon with quality scaling or uses the refined upgrade path to maximise your stats.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Well, if you need to go 40/40 to get max damage, that's effectively a quality weapon. (you can't refine it, is a boss weapon).
That's a bit of a stretch you might as well say every weapon is a quality weapon at that point scaling just doesn't work that way. Sure putting points into STR will help with even suboptimal scaling its better than nothing but that doesn't make it quality at all.
A 40/40 in STR/DEX is quality.
Now a weapon that scales to both is typically used in a quality build. As the weapon has scaling in both STR and DEX.
If the weapon doesn't, no need to create a quality build.
As scaling and stat into STR/DEX don't really do much. Not to mention scaling isn't the same on all weapons, like a scaling of C in STR isn't the same as C in STR on another.
Pretty simple.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
I really miss this game. It was perfect
This game and Xenoblade Chronicles are in that weird position where I still get the urge to play them, but when I actually do I realize I've completely memorized them so the magic is gone. Thankfully in the case of DS3, I haven't played the DLC yet, so there's still some magic to be had. I think I'm gonna wait until AoA goes on sale, or wait even longer and buy it together with the second DLC.
Trying to play DS2 again. Getting further but by far the combat mechanic sucks, and its magnified by PVP.
Especially being invaded as a hollow at a bonfire. Half the time its a dude that you can't even hit either.
I may just stop. I would probably have liked this if it was my first dark souls game as I wouldn't know any better.
Especially being invaded as a hollow at a bonfire. Half the time its a dude that you can't even hit either.
I may just stop. I would probably have liked this if it was my first dark souls game as I wouldn't know any better.
Quality here is based on Demon Souls as in the upgrade path with equal stat scaling so C/C for weapons etc. A quality build uses 40/40 stats but it doesn't make a DEX weapon a quality one at the end of the day it still scales higher with DEX rather than STR.
DS2 in some aspects is two steps forward one step back you can't really approach it the same way as you would with 3 combat wise it really doesn't work. It does have some refinements that DS3 lacks however combat wise.
Fuck
I keep getting him down to like 15 or 20% health and he gets me.
Here goes try 15 or 20 or however many this is.
Champion Gundyr phase 2. I can barely find an opening to attack or heal and half the time that I do it's actually just a lead in to that shoulder bash attack. Ughhhhh.
Here goes try 15 or 20 or however many this is.
Which one? Tutorial boss or?
No,
the one in the Untended Graves.
There's two attacks that I can't dodge no matter what I do,
the running spear and the upward swipe followed by the elbow smash. He hits me every time, even if I dodge.
No worries, I'm out of embers and just hopped off for a break anyway. Hopefully when I've calmed down and come back I'll get it.
I've been dodging to my right, his left (away from his lance).
So, is level 45 too high for Faron's Keep's bossfight? Put a sign down and nothing.
Speaking of which, you can apparently get 3 gestures from that fight. Is it possible to
?
Speaking of which, you can apparently get 3 gestures from that fight. Is it possible to
summon each one and send them home. I know one of them counts against Sirris' quest, so if I can summon, learn the gesture and have them sent home to avoid breaking that quest...
Abyss watchers? Crap I forgot to do that, only missed gestures right?
3. One of which blocks an NPC quest. The other 2 are conflicting summons. You can apparently get them both later, but I'm not sure about that and if I can send one of the AI home for the other, that'd solve my worry. As for the other stuff, not sure. I don't have the rewards for the Watchers in front of me.