Okay, so it's not just me then?
I wasn't sure because this is my first souls game. I played bloodborne, but I used a skill build there. I assumed that this was just the price for using something as stupidly powerful as the Greatsword.
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Okay, so it's not just me then?
I wasn't sure because this is my first souls game. I played bloodborne, but I used a skill build there. I assumed that this was just the price for using something as stupidly powerful as the Greatsword.
SoraanTribal
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I like seeing and reading the messages left by players even if they are trolling.
I also like staying in embered form so I can get npc invasions (they can actually give you items and such).With the bigger regular enemies the cooldown from ANY attack with my greatsword meant that I'd just get hit. It was an exercise of either running past them or hit-get hit-repeat.
I think that From made the enemies a bit too "Bloodborne" which kind of made anyone not playing a Bloodborne-esque DEX build have a much more difficult time.
Yeah this is me. I want to look cool, and straight swords look puny. I love the look of the Wolf Greatsword but its god damn useless late game PvE.
Hmmm... so I should be getting invasions even at lvl100? I've been waiting for very long periods with nothing happening. Red orbs work fine though.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I think I found the biggest problem I have with the game.
It punishes you for using the bigger weapons. Like, it's seriously impossible to even use these bigger weapons on some enemies. When I play these games I want to be able to stick with ONE weapon, and upgrade that one weapon. I had no clue which weapon I wanted to run with at all. So I saved up for the
but it's way to slow and I can't hit. So I had to go with the
which is pretty damn great.
I feel as if some of the enemies should be a bit slower with the amount of weapons that are at our disposal. There are SOOOOOO many but I feel the game ditracts from that positive.
The biggest thing that I feel they took from Bloodborne that simply doesn't work with this game.
It punishes you for using the bigger weapons. Like, it's seriously impossible to even use these bigger weapons on some enemies. When I play these games I want to be able to stick with ONE weapon, and upgrade that one weapon. I had no clue which weapon I wanted to run with at all. So I saved up for the
Wolf Knight Greatsword
Dark Sword
I feel as if some of the enemies should be a bit slower with the amount of weapons that are at our disposal. There are SOOOOOO many but I feel the game ditracts from that positive.
The biggest thing that I feel they took from Bloodborne that simply doesn't work with this game.
Worldshaker
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You can start off at the beginning of the game with the Astora Straight Sword. It requires a few points into Faith but it has a great move set and hits like a truck with a Raw gem thrown onto it. That's currently what speed runners use and just melt bosses while pumping all their levels into Health and Stamina. Just make sure to apply some resin which is part of the reason fast weapons excel. I'm sure you could look up which element is best for each boss if you wanted to min/max (but it shouldn't be necessary. Fire does the trick on most of them). Also it looks like you can stagger bosses much more often/easier/faster than Heavy weapons.
Mid/late game for normal players; Just use anything with a move set you find enjoyable. A lot of DEX weapons are fantastic! I've been testing a bunch but I lack the upgrade materials (like most people). I've even had more success with some Spears than I have Great Swords/STR heavy weapons in general.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Considering doing a faith build on my NG+. I'm Soul Level 127 currently as a Knight and I'm a heavy-armor wearing DPS monster
. Any tips for which spells I should focus on, and also any stat advice? Or should I just forget it and crush NG+ with my rediculous character?
Using Havel's Greatshield +5 and Lorians Greatsword +5
RaySpencer
Member
So I killed Yoel the Londer on the bridge where you find him, because he was asking for death.
Am I fucked for sorcery spells forever?
Am I fucked for sorcery spells forever?
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Of all my builds, the STR is a cakewalk.
DEX is med difficulty (probably cause I decided on no shield, mostly naked, with daggers and whips for whatever reason lol)
Caster is hard mode.
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
Fucking A. It's just not worth committing to a slow lumbering zweihander swing of 350dmg when I can just swing two times with my straight sword for a combined damage of 420, all the while being faster and having enough time to roll away so damn far that I could send the boss a postcard that says "wish you were here". Can't believe their testing missed this. Well this is my first souls launch since I was late to the party with the first one so hopefully it'll get better. Zweihander was really good in DS1 with my ninja flipping glass cannon.
That was a different guy.
Fancy Clown
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A
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was a dope fight. I love the concept and music. Pretty easy tho
byss
atchers
Considering how quickly some bosses (
, etc) can turn and hit you even though they've just done a combo, I wonder how people with heavier weapons are getting them done.
Plus those
that will strafe you to death, by the time you're done swinging they'll be behind you already.
AW, Pontiff, NK, SoC
Plus those
ninja enemies at catacombs
tamaster92
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Killed Aldrich on my second playthrough and did not receive his soul or ashes.
Sigh. There's goes 50 hours wasted
Sigh. There's goes 50 hours wasted
Will i Rage Quit in Dark Souls 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFujebyzuJ0
Let me know what you think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFujebyzuJ0
Let me know what you think
RaySpencer
Member
Hmm, really? No other person around here to recruit.
Edit: http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Yoel+of+Londor
Seems like it was him, can I get his spells anywhere else?
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Fuck no man. FUCK. NO.
I died so many damn times to this guy. Too fucking many. It was super cool to see
the NPCs fight one another
I got thrown off a bridge.
I mean it's sort of funny, but am I allowed to laugh at that?
I mean it's sort of funny, but am I allowed to laugh at that?
Try to avoid reading too much, but that's disconcerting. This is going to be my first Soulsborne using a big STR sword.
Now that you guys mention it, big weapons do seem really unviable in the game, especially late game. Some bosses will just absolutely smash you if you're too slow. Which kinda reinforces my point that they maybe took too much of bloodborne to put it into souls. Maybe big hammers sometimes since they do extra damage versus armored but still. I also use a dark sword now and it's astounding how ridiculously easy the game is now due to it's speed and scaling.
I'm really bummed since after BB i wanted to go for something slower, just for a change of pace, but it doesn't seem the game rewards that playstyle too much. I wonder if I should just forego dodging altogether in pve and just wear the heaviest armor, shield with high stability and weapon and see if I can be a good turtle. I was so disappointed once i started investing in my farron greatsword. It looks cool and that L1 is ridiculously awesome but it's basicaly useless in most scenarios, even with that good dex scaling. It's too slow to damage and will leave you open to about 80% of enemies
I'm really bummed since after BB i wanted to go for something slower, just for a change of pace, but it doesn't seem the game rewards that playstyle too much. I wonder if I should just forego dodging altogether in pve and just wear the heaviest armor, shield with high stability and weapon and see if I can be a good turtle. I was so disappointed once i started investing in my farron greatsword. It looks cool and that L1 is ridiculously awesome but it's basicaly useless in most scenarios, even with that good dex scaling. It's too slow to damage and will leave you open to about 80% of enemies
RiccochetJ
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I've been rocking a greataxe since DS1 and the only thing that I've noticed is that you have to be absolutely on point with your dodge and when you throw out your swings. I think the wind up and recovery are fine (at least with the greataxe) because I can literally take off a massive chunk of life with a single swing. I never ran into things that were "impossible."
I've summoned for pretty much all bosses. It's just not fun at all going up against some with a slow-hitting weapon that does crap DPS compared to a faster one. I'm looking forward to starting my DEX playthrough and going up against them all solo as I originally intended when starting my first one.
UnObtainium17
Member
The recent posts about using big ass swrods are bumming me out because that was my plan with my current first character. Im still level 20 i guess im gonna try your route and fred flintstone the hell out of my 1st blind run. I thoroughly Enjoyed clubbing in DS 1 and 2.
Lots and lots of rolling and perfectly timing attacks. I use a glaive and all the Knights of whatever kind give me huge problems. Can you imagine my suprise when I changed to the Broadsword and SMOKED them because where I had to dodge after each of my hits before I now could just keep them in permanent stunlock until they died? At ~70% DMG/hit on a less upgraded weapon. At least the Glaive is good for CC, but if I weren't REALLY in love with the weapon from DS1 I would no longer use it. Not much of a point in using heavy weapons in this game. They lack the oomph
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Don't. Seriously. It's not fun. I was absolutely loving the
Irithyll Sword
Dark Sword
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
It's completely bonkers how the broadsword R1 can stagger so many times, yet an R2 from my Zwei does nothing.Lots and lots of rolling and perfectly timing attacks. I use a glaive and all the Knights of whatever kind give me huge problems. Can you imagine my suprise when I changed to the Broadsword and SMOKED them because where I had to dodge after each of my hits before I now could just keep them in permanent stunlock until they died? At ~70% DMG/hit on a less upgraded weapon. At least the Glaive is good for CC, but if I weren't REALLY in love with the weapon from DS1 I would no longer use it. Not much of a point in using heavy weapons in this game. They lack the oomph
Fancy Clown
Member
First phase:
be agressive when it's just one Walker since they stunlock easily. When a second one comes out I would just run away until a third one came out and then when they started fighting eachother you could kill one easily. And then repeat]
Second phase: Just dodge the combos before you attack and it's just a slightly harder version of
the first part of phase one.
I didn't think it was inconsistant or very tough due to some pretty exploitable weaknesses. But like I said, really cool fight even if I did find it easy.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
I'm a twohander for the entirety of the game, but I found certain bosses were borderline unbeatable with a UGS. They're just too fast and mobile -- by the time you dodge and go to attack, after that lengthy wind-up, they're already out of range. So I had a one-handed weapon and shield on backup that I'd switch to to try out different strategies, and there's a few bosses I don't know if they'd be manageable without mobility and speed.
For me, the idea of a two-handed weapon is to get in the pocket (striking range of the enemy) and do serious damage, which usually means taking a few hits in the process (so high vigor and nice armor help). But certain bosses are just too deadly for that approach.
The thing is that they ARE viable, but you really do need to "git gud" if you want to have the same level of challenge that any old DEX user would have. It's basically putting the game into a secret hard mode, the same way magic was always the secret easy mode.
Speaking for myself and some others it seems, we're not. We live and learn the hard way to love the quick straightswords. Switched to almost exclusively using the Ilithyr one that you get very early on. It scaled pretty well with upgrading and it's my main weapon now, which absolutely guts me because I made my whole character into a quality build to use
farron's greatsword/Zweihander.
Nope different guy. Yoel asks if you want his help. Check every single one of those things.
Barakov
Member
Well, aren't you fancy.
It's definitely one of the tougher fights in the game.
The range and moveset he has with his second form is absolutely brutal
I feel like the problem is with the ultra-greatsword weapons. The more big smashy smashy weapons seem more viable since they seem to stagger and go through defenses more.
Cheers guys!
Targeted MP question. Buddy and me used the same password and same settings but we just couldn't invade/summon each other.
Wiki says the level restrictions are lifted by using a password (he's 40ish, I'm 90ish) and I could get summoned by another buddy using the password (who was 50ish).
So I'm not exactly sure what's up; my invasions ended up being at a random host :/
Anything specific needed to trigger the password as "active" or sth?
On a semi-related note, I killed two phantoms there without knowing wth was going on lol. Guardbreak + belly stab = <3
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Certain Greatswords
Fume Ultra Greatsword for example
Yeah, I'm also on Team Greatsword = pretty useless, but awesome looking. It's not viable in PvP either. Did some fights today and players with faster weapons have a much easier time. With the Butchers Knife I was just melting people, but with a GS/UGS? lol nope. By the time your swing comes out, they already rolled away and hit you 2-3 times. The R1 of the GS also takes up so much stamina, you cant really finish people off because they'll just roll away and heal up. It's frustrating, because if you hit them they also don't really get staggered
Fancy Clown
Member
Well, aren't you fancy.
I think Maria from Bloodborne gave me an advanced lesson for fire sword dodging
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
I'm pretty sure whenever a bonfire is lit for the first time by another player in the area you get one. They did a similar thing in DS1.
Worldshaker
Member
I used a Zwei for a lot of the game since it's always my go to for a first Souls playthrough. From my experience it's not very good, and if you do go the STR route look into some of the Hammers and a certain boss weapon. Those are much much better. In fact most Great Swords and UGS' are just mediocre. You can get through the game with any weapon obviously, but those are just a lot harder/more unforgiving.
Fast hitting 1 handers stagger more often/faster, straight up do more damage, and you also have much larger windows of opportunity. Add in Resins which you can proc insanely fast. This also allows you to throw more of your levels into survival stats and not to meet those huge STR requirements making bosses even easier.
Fast hitting 1 handers stagger more often/faster, straight up do more damage, and you also have much larger windows of opportunity. Add in Resins which you can proc insanely fast. This also allows you to throw more of your levels into survival stats and not to meet those huge STR requirements making bosses even easier.
Barakov
Member
You do it by killing enemies. It's explained here:
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Estus+Flask
Yeah. Heavy armor got hit hard. It's a bit sad because on one hand their physical defense isn't that better compared to medium or some light armor. On the other they still weigh a fuckton, making it so that they're unviable if you even want to dodge properly without putting a shitton in vigor and equipping one if not two rings of equip load and still have enough for a weapon and shield.
I appreciate that we can fashion souls a bit more since stats mean a bit less for armor but goddamn if you're gonna make the heavy armor protect less, make them weigh a bit less too
Yeah, a pretty big balance oversight for sure. Big enough for the devs to be oblivious to it by now. Unless they know and it's intentional because "they're not good because that's the tradeoff for being cool looking.
Speaking of cool looking,
Speaking of cool looking,
Dancers enchanted swords. So fucking cool of a moveset. Seems pretty garbage in practice though. I think the patch notes for the upcoming 1.04 patch mentioned this weapon. Hopefully they buff it because that's what I would wanna use for a totally different run.
diff regions perhaps? enable cross region MP
shit I keep checking this OT and not studying whats wrong with me
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