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Yes, absolutely do that. You can then upgrade your weapons to +5 and armor to +3 with Titanite Shards.
It says no weapons are available for ascension. The Drake Sword isn't upgradable?
The Drake Sword needs Dragon Scales.
I have one...I think.
I also don't think Andrei can do it.
Deified Data
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I suggest saving your scales for later. You won't use the Drake Sword for long.
He can do it.
Don't upgrade the Drake Sword, it's a waste of souls and Dragon Scales. You can upgrade weapons to +5 with Titanite Shards with Andre, you only need embers to go past that, Normal and Divine/Occult ascension. Ditch that Drake Sword and start upgrading a normal weapon that has a moveset you like. Try a Longsword, Claymore, or whatever else suits you. Upgrade it to +5, then modify it to +6 with the Large Ember you get from the Depths. You either gave him the Large Ember or the Divine ember(from the Moonlight Butterfly boss).
Wolfe
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While I will disengage the lock on for certain reasons here and there overall I still use it each and every boss fight, for one it lets you sidestep and dodge left/right which for me is a very fun playstyle.
As you said though you can definitely play without using it during boss fights if you prefer.
ihearthawthats
Banned
ascension is not the same as upgrading.
weapons can be ascended as earliest as +5. only a few require +10, like lightning or boss souls. not all weapons can ascend past +5, which is usually the ones upgraded by twinkling, demon, or dragon scales.
for lock on, i think it depends on playstyle. shield users need to lock on so they face the right direction. rollers can have more flexibility where they roll to while unlocked.
I thought so too before I got the hang of it.
Sen's Fortress upgrade for DSII confirmed. Believe.
Deified Data
Banned
I feel like a dick for how angry I get when the host who summons me dies in a boss fight, even if its for a good reason, even if its my fault for not better engaging the enemy. It's especially annoying when you have bad internet and only manage to get successfully summoned maybe once every hour, if that, and you're trying to save up enough Sunlight Medals to get Great Lightning Spear and leave. It's not always their fault.
Except when it is, in which case I feel no pity whatsoever.
Edit: 3 times in a row now, the Iron Golem is somehow kicking ass tonight. Guys...guys...come on...
Except when it is, in which case I feel no pity whatsoever.
Edit: 3 times in a row now, the Iron Golem is somehow kicking ass tonight. Guys...guys...come on...
Just typed this up about an hour ago because I was bored and I'm extremely eager for any info on Dark Souls 2. I think I have an ok grasp of Dark Souls story, but I'm not sure so this might not make sense. Anyways, no harm in posting my hype I guess. What do you think?
My main idea came from this picture:
My main idea came from this picture:
ihearthawthats
Banned
got summoned to someone's dark anor londo for pvp, by accident? just laid my usual summon at the bonfire for ornstein co-op. that's the 1st time that's happened over at least 100+ summons. is that normal? it was pretty fun actually. any way to get it happen more often?
A Jolly Co-operation™ guide:
Step 1)
Iron Tarkus
There is no fucking Step 2.
All the way to the beginning of the game? There's Dark Souls, and then there's Ghosts and Ghouls man :<
But I like the idea, being able to place your own bonfires wherever you want. But I can see it being abused such as near a boss location which kind of takes the challenge of re-traveling to the boss null.
It's a bug that sometimes happens due to the p2p nature of the servers. It doesn't happen often, a bit rare.
Deified Data
Banned
Not even Tarkus could help someone who starts charging a spell right in front of the Golem's axe swing, or forgets to kill the bomb-throwing giant before stepping through the boss fog.
ihearthawthats
Banned
iron golem is pretty slow for me too. i get summoned much more often at either quelaag or ornstein. you can also farm shards at either place which makes the time go by quick.
Yea a bit silly as I rethink it. There are quite a few people who are already turned off by a rumored "easy mode" so I tried to think of something that would add an extra layer of difficulty, but still completely optional so an easier mode could co-exist.
I love FROM Sofware's design decisions behind bonfires but I think it should be tweaked slightly so that, while it remains familiar, it also remains fresh. There would have to be some sort of limitation to keep that challenge.
Biff
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Alright, so after 60 hours, I beat NG. Thoughts are spoilered below:
So while I definitely feel like I "accomplished" something, and had way more ups than downs in Dark Souls (biggest up being one of the best mind.blown. moments I've had in gaming when I realized earlier on that the entire world is one entity linked together through shortcuts-----biggest down(s) being one of the many combat/camera glitches that double-death'd me)... I'm overall left disappointed with the Link the Fire ending.
I know there is a lot of plot sprinkled throughout the game in weapon info and character conversations, but that ending was so fucking ambiguous. Did I sacrifice myself for any purpose? Is humanity restored to the world? I was crossing my fingers that an "actual" cutscene was coming after the credits. Sigh.
I know there is a lot of plot sprinkled throughout the game in weapon info and character conversations, but that ending was so fucking ambiguous. Did I sacrifice myself for any purpose? Is humanity restored to the world? I was crossing my fingers that an "actual" cutscene was coming after the credits. Sigh.
Deified Data
Banned
Yeah, but the ambiguity is the best part IMO.
No, you probably didn't restore humanity to the world. Or did you? What does it mean to "link the fire"? Will it turn me into the mindless husk that Gwyn was when you kill him? Obviously I'm being manipulated by both Frampt and Gwyndolin, but have they underestimated the strength of my soul? I like to think my chosen undead has surpassed the gods at this point.
Perhaps you become another piece of useless kindling, another cog in an endless cycle. Maybe the next chosen undead will have to get their asses handed to them by you over and over to link the fire again. Or perhaps you gain control of the Lord Soul within the fire and gain deific status?
Personally I don't believe either ending leads to a happy ending for humanity - either way you're just a pawn for one of the two dueling serpents Frampt or Kaathe in their endless struggle between light and dark. The only question to be determined by the player is if your character falls into their trap or not. You can place the Lordvessel for yourself and bypass them both and acheive your own ends. That's what I like to think, anyway.
Perhaps you become another piece of useless kindling, another cog in an endless cycle. Maybe the next chosen undead will have to get their asses handed to them by you over and over to link the fire again. Or perhaps you gain control of the Lord Soul within the fire and gain deific status?
Personally I don't believe either ending leads to a happy ending for humanity - either way you're just a pawn for one of the two dueling serpents Frampt or Kaathe in their endless struggle between light and dark. The only question to be determined by the player is if your character falls into their trap or not. You can place the Lordvessel for yourself and bypass them both and acheive your own ends. That's what I like to think, anyway.
I've invaded a lot more people using it lately, that ENB bandwagon lol. It's a fun weapon, but you can punish it pretty well with parries and unlocked running attacks into combos. I have people spamming the running attack or strong attacks and I just combo them with Claymore for 1300+ damage.
If someone has the dead angles down though it can be really hard to deal with, getting hit behind your shield for 550 damage is the worst. I usually don't even block and just flip roll spam to avoid that shit.
Arjen
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Haha, i'm pretty sure, people last night thought the same, me hopping on the ENB bandwagon. I never tried the weapon before last night honestly, so this was a good change to try it out.
Don't know if i'll keep using it, maybe i'll go back to my Uchi, but that's a pretty wide used weapon as well, i would love to bring something new to the table, that makes people think, wtf is he using? But i'm guessing a weapon like that doesn't exist in Dark Souls anymore.
InfiniDragon
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I always pick the "large head" body type for that reason.
Deified Data
Banned
My dex/int build uses a painting guardian sword for PVP. I like to think it's thrown off a few people.
Arjen
Member
I tried that weapon as well, but i couldn't deal with the lack of range.
Naw they still do, if you just make a Quality build you can +15 anything and it will do good damage, then you just have to learn the moveset and get good with it. People using goofy stuff like the Warpick with Leo ring, Battle Axe, and a lot of interesting dual wielding combos. One guy I fought had Zweihander offhand and Gargoyle tail axe, he used that combo for vicious stunlock.
There is another guy who is famous for using the Pickaxe, he uses Leo ring with it and goes for crazy counters, he would also use Karmic Justice and throw Black firebombs. Improvisation and originality is available, just tough because it's hard to figure out less used weapons and get comfortable with them. One of my favorites is just the Longsword, it is extremely versatile and catches a lot of people off guard.
One of my favorite weapons is Dark Sword.
That weapon has an insane speed and stunlock when 2H and the R2 attack is very effective against lag stab since it often catches people off guard.
I'm really surprised very few people are using it.
Red Liquorice
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Very much agree, and that's kind of what I meant, disengage the lock on like it's a tool to be used not just a targeting system. /nods
They might've summoned you on purpose for pvp or just as a desperate measure against an invader, or a trick. I'll summon sometimes just to let an invader know where I am.... or where I was.
I've definitely noticed a lot of people using it lately as well. I guess I won't play my great scythe character for a while
You can tell when people are new with it as they empty their entire stamina bar at once. Its main PVP usefulness is from dead angles. I think the people spamming the running attack are trying to dead angle, but I'm better when I play unlocked with the regular R2 attacks, cautiously since the swing is pretty easy to parry. It's funny because ENB doesn't really ever focus on PVP, I don't think he was necessarily recommending it as a PVP weapon. It's definitely viable as one but it would be strange to call it the best dex pvp weapon when it has nearly useless R1s and has such slow swing speed.I did some cospvp as a darkwraith the other day and it worked out really well. I like it too. Perhaps one reason a lot of people don't use it is because on the wiki page it says this:
Just an example of how the wikis are often unreliable or include unnecessary non-factual information. Not the best sword in the game, NOT RECOMMENDED. Of course you need to rank up in the covenant to get it and regular straight swords are not popular at all in PVP except for the balder side sword.
Longsword is great, I see so many people using BSS but very rarely the longsword. I've been messing around with Demon Great Machete + Butcher Knife in offhand with like 78 poise. It's pretty awesome. The DGM does most of the work, but most people don't expect me to actually attack with the butcher knife or alternate swings. Its quicker swings are great to confuse people and trick them into a 2H DGM stunlock. I love when people try to circle around me when I'm using DGM. Having 40STR/40DEX is the best, so many possibilities. By default I use claymore/composite bow (can't believe it took me this long to use that). Nothing more satisfying than beating a sunlight blade claymore with a regular one.
Deified Data
Banned
Yeah, I've noticed this about the wikis, too. You can tell when an entry is written by someone who thinks he knows the game so well that no one needs to play using any method other than his. I've noticed this sort of weapon elitism with a few other pages, too - namely whips. "Not recommended" my ass, if you can win with a whip and have fun doing it you're a boss.
Great Scythe being one of the best overall weapons in the game is old news. He should do a series for best weapons, spells and strats for challenge runs. But the Great Scythe knowledge has been known forever. A +15 or +5 Lightning Great Scythe makes the Four Kings a total joke, you can easily close the distance when one fires a homing missile with a R2. Power Within Combined will equal the "Three Kings".
The same thing happened to me a while ago.
I kept hearing footstep noises too. It was spooky. Would a combination of Hidden Body and Hidden Weapon make the host completely invisible? Maybe they were just fucking with us.
Yea, thats why you want to use it on-and-off.
Alternatively, use a weapon that has a wide slash motion so that your attacks dont just whiff right in the middle of his legs.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Yeah's he's extremely annoying on my sl1 run without tarkus the most annoying thing isn't getting hit by him, he's actually fairly easily to avoid but being able to dodge his attacks while rolling straight of the platform, combined with camera issues was just why.
ihearthawthats
Banned
don't be in such a hurry. positioning is key so you can bait out specific attacks. based on where you are, you should generally be able to predict which attack he'll do even before he does it. similar to the centepede, the best attack to bait out is his long range slow swing when you are facing his front. its extremely slow that you can just run between his legs without even needing to roll.
many people like to circle strafe behind bosses and monsters in general, but imo the attacks he uses at that spot are the harder ones to dodge given the tight space.
Agreed. I never use lock on fighting Iron Golem and just weave between his legs. He's only dangerous if you mess up and get caught by his grab attack which will send you off the ledge if you're unlucky.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I've defeated him multiple times solo, the boss itself is pretty easy the but is still fairly bullshit despite knowing precisely how to do it. Sure I can do it now first or second try but typically what I learned after multiple tries is there's several points on that platform where you think you won't fall off to your doom, but either due to pogramming or it's intentional you do end up falling off to your doom and that's why I dislike. It's not about learning boss patterns or avoiding the obvious platform areas but more it'll screw you over in a way you'll typically won't figure out you've after died from it. It's like blighttown where every single pathway down outside of the wheel is instant, death regardless of height drop, which you only figure out from dying from them.
Here's my SL1 Iron Golem run (did it with the giant alive too). I consider him one of the easiest in the game.
Just wail away on one foot, after you dodge a slow swing attack, let him grab you which will activate Red Tearstone. At that point you'll easily stagger him and the fight will be over.
They are probably hearing you from miles away. Try lighter armor or wear the slumbering dragoncrest ring to mask the sound you make. Wear the fog ring, and slumbering ring for true ninja mode.
Casanova
Member
Me and my friend are starting to get into PvP a little bit more and I needed some advice from you seasoned Dark Souls and Demon Souls players.
I have a level 115 and here are the stats:
Vitality 35
Attunement 23
Endurance 45
Strength 17
Dexterity 35
Resistance 12
Intelligence 23
Faith 8
Basically, my question is:
What PvP weapons would be most suitable for my end/Vit/Dex build?
I am currently using Quallag's Fury Sword, for the most part. But, it doesn't seem to have enough reach to make up for the dubious amounts of lag found in multi-player on this game..
Any recommendations DarkSoulsGAF?
Is my first "PvP' build looking pretty good so far?
FYI, I sport Knight Laurec's armor, the dark woodgrain ring, Havel's ring, Mask of the Father, and the Grass Crest Shield...
I have a level 115 and here are the stats:
Vitality 35
Attunement 23
Endurance 45
Strength 17
Dexterity 35
Resistance 12
Intelligence 23
Faith 8
Basically, my question is:
What PvP weapons would be most suitable for my end/Vit/Dex build?
I am currently using Quallag's Fury Sword, for the most part. But, it doesn't seem to have enough reach to make up for the dubious amounts of lag found in multi-player on this game..
Any recommendations DarkSoulsGAF?
Is my first "PvP' build looking pretty good so far?
FYI, I sport Knight Laurec's armor, the dark woodgrain ring, Havel's ring, Mask of the Father, and the Grass Crest Shield...
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