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Now you can go on a Kindling Pilgrimage.
arglebargle
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it feels so good to beat bosses on your first try. i havent fought pinwheel yet, but i got quelaag and centipede on first try.
for me there have been three classes of bosses. easy-ish (those i beat on the first or second try); manageable (took me a few tries but i knew i could do it - for me this was firesage, iron golem, most of them, frankly); and rage inducing (some people say sif is the easiest boss in teh game, but i really struggled with him).
Only boss I've beaten on my first try (Well, aside from the asylum demon) was the Bell Gargoyles. I was mentally prepared for a tough fight, but with Solaire in tow I just wrecked their shit like nothing else. I was actually taken aback at how easy it was. Not even sure I could repeat it since I didn't have the opportunity to internalize the fight and figure it out. Heh.
arglebargle
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i initially fought the gargoyles with the hand axe the pyromancer starts with. i think it took off like 11 hp per hit. i promptly died, leveled once or twice until i could use the halberd and then destroyed them easily.
Mognet
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Looking at my trophy list, it took me 6 hours to ring the first bell and that's all thanks to the Gargoyles.
ASHAMED.
I wish Pinwheel had like a 4x increase in health. I don't even really know what its attacks look like. And I only get to hear about 4 bars of the badass song that plays before I DEFEATED. For a boss that lets you kindle your bonfires further, he sure doesn't put up much of a fight. Also his boss room looks like Ripper Roo's from Crash Bandicoot (this is not a complaint.)
I also wouldn't mind if this boss was the only way in a playthrough to get one of the pinwheel masks.
I also wouldn't mind if this boss was the only way in a playthrough to get one of the pinwheel masks.
What's exactly that "kindling" stuff I got for defeating him?
You can now kindle bonfires to 20 Estus flask each. You can kindle to 15, then 20.
Allows you to kindle bonfires further, increasing the Estus Flask limit from 10 to 20
beatennnnnnnnnnn
It's fun to poison someone right at the start of a fight so you get to see a running tally of the damage you have to do to them. I was fighting an Estus Chugger, so I ended up having to do 7000+ damage until I finally killed him. I've been messing around with a backstab to Fire Tempest wakeup attack that works pretty well, right after I backstab them I walk toward them and cast it as they are getting up, catch them most of the time.
TyrantGuardian
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Someone remind me what my options are once I've been cursed. I went in completely unprepared against Seath.
Go kill some clams (before Seath) with the Gold serpent ring and they will likely drop a purging stone which cures curse.
TyrantGuardian
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The ones in Ash Lake also work, right?
arglebargle
Member
another option: beat seath while cursed because he is easy. worry about getting rid of curse later.
you can also buy purging stones at a couple of merchants (in the parish, in new londo) but if you are in the dukes archives fighting seath why would you leave to go to ash lake?
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
What does he say?
TyrantGuardian
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It's easy to get back there since I've unlocked all the Duke's shortcuts. But yeah, you do have a point.
Technically you could warp to the Stone Dragon bonfire, farm the three clams, then homeward bone back to the Duke's Archives bonfire, rinse and repeat. It would be pretty silly, but there would be less resistance doing it that way.
MutantCyborg
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Were the Four Kings of New Londo supposed to be hard? I just blew through them on my second try. I was able to get 4 hits off before I had to block or roll some damage away, and it only took 4-5 hits to kill each King. Did I just get lucky? My First try the Kings would try and hug me every chance they got, on my second they didn't even try.
Anyway, Now I'm going towards Seath and am making considerable progress. Did the patch do anything to the Duke's Archives? I also have heard that this is one of the hardest places in the game.
Quick edit: Where to next after I down Seath?
Anyway, Now I'm going towards Seath and am making considerable progress. Did the patch do anything to the Duke's Archives? I also have heard that this is one of the hardest places in the game.
Quick edit: Where to next after I down Seath?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
FINALLY completed it. Been playing since Day 1....
Took 85 hours.
Had a horrendeous start, pre-patch accidentally hitting Andre the blacksmith and wasting hours upon hours to purchase the souls required for absolution. And then 2 days later, a patch comes out that cuts souls by 1/5th. Oh well.
Amazing game. A few too-frustrating elements, but GOTY, and still no other experience out there like it (fun factor I'd give to Demon's, but still brilliant).
I walked right out the door for the "good" (Dark) ending with soul in hand.
Took 85 hours.
Had a horrendeous start, pre-patch accidentally hitting Andre the blacksmith and wasting hours upon hours to purchase the souls required for absolution. And then 2 days later, a patch comes out that cuts souls by 1/5th. Oh well.
Amazing game. A few too-frustrating elements, but GOTY, and still no other experience out there like it (fun factor I'd give to Demon's, but still brilliant).
I walked right out the door for the "good" (Dark) ending with soul in hand.
Continuity
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Yeah the first time I tried fighting 4K by wearing light armor and rolling around to avoid their attacks, that didn't go well at all. The second time I just walked up in full havel armor, 2-handed a Claymore and wailed on them till they died.
Duke's Archives have deceivingly strong enemies. While the crystal soldiers don't have any fancy attacks, they have really good defense and do a scary amount of damage when buffed by Channellers, so don't get swarmed. The Channellers have really powerful projectile attacks that WILL hit you and take huge chunks of your health if you don't watch out for them. Duke's Archives actually feels like a wake-up call stage for the player, the enemies and stage setup is similar to Undead Burg, as if the developers are saying "back to basics".
MutantCyborg
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Yea, The Channellers were they only thing to give me any trouble in that part, their projectile was easy to avoid but when it did hit I felt the need to flask. But the only thing annoying me now is the Crystal Cave. >.> I don't like the developers choice in this area..
Hey, I remember you posting way back when the inadvertent Andre assault occurred. I'm glad to hear you managed to make it through that kerfuffle alright.
I'm totally in the camp that says the Dark Lord ending is the bad one.
It's just like, he can't give you any more answers until you grab the lordvessel, etc. IIRC.
arglebargle
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the channelers buff the crystal soldiers? also, dukes archives is one of my favorite areas in the game. cant put my finger on why, but i really like it.
have you done demons ruins and lost izalith yet?
i think four kings are one of the easiest bosses. i had the same experience as some others here. died my first time (almost immediately, i dont think i even got a hit in) second time i geared up, brought iron flesh, and destroyed them. even the hugging attack wasnt that bad.
what does everyone hate about the crystal cave? i thought it was a fine area. the clams are a little tough, but you can run past them easily enough if you just want to get to the boss.
Mr_Appleby
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when they do their funny dance the crystal dreglings will get a haze around them to show they're buffed. the one in the depths does it to the rats. if you get a channeler's trident you can do the same to your co-op partners with the 2hand heavy attack - works even if you don't have the stats to wield it as a weapon.
arglebargle
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i had no idea. those crystal guys can hit like trucks though. fortunately their attacks are easy to avoid.
you're most of the way through if you only have 2 Lord Souls left.
Go absolve sins from the guy in the belltower, you should be fine after that.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
The whole Darkmoon thing just makes be believe it's all a lie. A cycle perpetuated to keep these
god-like beings in power. To continue the old way. Kill the remaining dietys, break the cycle, and usher in the age of man and all that. "Dark" just meaning 'unknown,' really, since the light of the gods is out. But that doesn't mean it's bad. Killing Nito and not linking the flame so they get to come back may actually break the Darksign curse anyway
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Plus he tells you to go get the lordvessel and stuff.
The first area where you get killed by him is in a lower part of the crystal cave. When you get near his immortality crystal he flies up to protect it.
Just achieved a total "OMFG, that worked?" victory over the Stray Demon. The first attempt, he immediately whacked me with his club as soon as I landed from the fall for instadeath.
So for my second attempt, I tried rolling across the floor in the hopes of reducing fall damage and landing closer to the pillars where I might have enough refuge time to chug an Estus flask. And hey, waddya know, it worked.
Worked so well, he apparently didn't notice me since he was just pacing back and forth. So I unloaded some dung pies on him, which didn't provoke him, but did poison him. Not wanting to jeopardize my risk-free damage infliction I was achieving, I waited out the poison. And waited. And waited.
Took like 10 minutes, but lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 80% of his health without ever noticing me. Wish I had more dung pies : ( Instead, I ran up to him, used Iron Flesh and fire orbed him to death with my +15 pyromancer's flame, which worked but I probably got extremely lucky.
I found the entire return to the asylum to be incredibly depressing, especially watching the knight who helped you earlier get up and come try and kill you : (. This game's lore confuses the hell out of me, when people die, they come back as hostile hollows... Except you. Probably because you're some chosen one or something, I suppose...
So for my second attempt, I tried rolling across the floor in the hopes of reducing fall damage and landing closer to the pillars where I might have enough refuge time to chug an Estus flask. And hey, waddya know, it worked.
Worked so well, he apparently didn't notice me since he was just pacing back and forth. So I unloaded some dung pies on him, which didn't provoke him, but did poison him. Not wanting to jeopardize my risk-free damage infliction I was achieving, I waited out the poison. And waited. And waited.
Took like 10 minutes, but lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 80% of his health without ever noticing me. Wish I had more dung pies : ( Instead, I ran up to him, used Iron Flesh and fire orbed him to death with my +15 pyromancer's flame, which worked but I probably got extremely lucky.
I found the entire return to the asylum to be incredibly depressing, especially watching the knight who helped you earlier get up and come try and kill you : (. This game's lore confuses the hell out of me, when people die, they come back as hostile hollows... Except you. Probably because you're some chosen one or something, I suppose...
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
So has the rumor of DLC been confirmed or squashed?
Cloudius12
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I hope.I feel like Pinwheel is a boss you are supposed to fight so much earlier despite his location. It's like From intended for players to just randomly wander into the Catacombs before or slightly after ringing the second bell, and just turn back when they get barred from going into the Tomb of Giants. The biggest problem is that people are most likely going to only go to the Catacombs after getting the lordvessel and at that point, Pinwheel (and the entirety of the Catacombs for that matter) is pretty trivial.
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
I like to know how the hell he able to even enter the library archives.
The text states he "researched" in there.
See You Next Wednesday
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Grinchy
Banned
Four Kings owned the shit out of me until I decided to just level myself up to 85 and solo them. I was trying to kill them too early for my build, I suspect. Capra has never really been an issue for me.
Saw this great piano cover of Gwyn's theme on r/darksouls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJQUEtSRLEE
Sounds very much like the one on the OST since it's all piano anyway, but still very cool nonetheless. Probably my favorite song on the soundtrack. Cool that there's so much fan content for this game. I fully expect to see some Dark Souls cosplay at PAX.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJQUEtSRLEE
Sounds very much like the one on the OST since it's all piano anyway, but still very cool nonetheless. Probably my favorite song on the soundtrack. Cool that there's so much fan content for this game. I fully expect to see some Dark Souls cosplay at PAX.
I think I'm pretty far from ringing the second bell, just finished the depths, and I went in the catacombs. I killed the boss very fuckin fast anyways. And I dont have a good weapon / good gear, it's my first playthorugh and Im mostly improvising.
After killing him, I proceeded to fall down to my death in the very dark area over the boss room. Which is a tombstone.
Ghost_Protocol
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Anybody figure out who's in the paintings in the Anor Londo castle? They look like Gwyn's children
Is anyone interested in trying to figure out if the Pendant can do anything?
I'm thinking that we could create a sort of checklist of things we think may trigger it. Then as we attempt them we check it off the list.
So if there is interest share things you've tried and I can manage the full list of things we want to try and have already completed.
I'm thinking that we could create a sort of checklist of things we think may trigger it. Then as we attempt them we check it off the list.
So if there is interest share things you've tried and I can manage the full list of things we want to try and have already completed.
Yeah, I got that much, but it seems weird that when anyone ELSE goes hollow, they go evil right away, but I spend most of my time running around hollowed with no ill effect.
This game's lore is simultaneously unique and maddeningly opaque.
arglebargle
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i had trouble getting into other games after i finished demons souls. vanquish is eventually what eased me back in. i wonder if i will suffer similar withdrawal after dark.
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