Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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Jason: knee-jerk, gut reaction to reading your profile? You seem like a nerdy loner.

Whether or not that's true, it's the image you're projecting. Ditch the nerd humor, the intellectual undertone, and the self-deprecation and your profile will look much more appealing.

But I am nerdy loner, haha. I was trying to be honest but I suppose not many would find it attractive.

Also, wow at the amount of pretty girls (with the best profiles) being bi. I am so conflicted.
 
I need help GAF. Theres a girl who I really like. Super cute, great conversations and we get on really well, but things are really complicated.

I met her about 8 months ago when we started working at the same place, we work nights at a hardware store so theres few customers and plenty of time for chat. In this time she has dated 3 other guys from work, screwed me over at least twice one of which basically turned everyone else at work against her. Despite all the shit I still kind of want to go out with her despite everything telling me other wise.

I genuinely just want some outside opinions on whether I should ask her out or not even bother and do the smart thing and not ask. Also I will be leaving in 3 months so the complication of working together will only be gone soon.
 
I need help GAF. Theres a girl who I really like. Super cute, great conversations and we get on really well, but things are really complicated.

Met her about 8 months ago when we started working at the same place,work night at a hardware store so theres few customers and plenty of time for chat. In this time she has dated 3 other guys from work, screwed me over at least twice one of which basically turned everyone else at work against her. Despite all the shit I still kind of want to go out with her despite everything telling me other wise.

I genuinely just want some outside opinions on whether I should ask her out or not even bother and do the smart thing and not ask. Also I will be leaving in 3 months so the complication of working together will only be gone soon.

I say go for it. I would regret ignoring opportunities, especially when my emotions were telling me otherwise. Just try until you've exhausted all interest then you can move on comfortably and fully
 
Whelp. Started the date with dinner. Some wasabi dares were made, all good fun.

Couldn't figure out where to go next so we went to her car. Cuddled, hand holding / stroking. Ended up in the back of my car making out & a certain level of 'groping'. Smooth conversations. It's all good. (no sex (but it felt naturally so), I drove an hour to this place and her place had family)

Kissing started with her talking about how she was worried she talks too much and I went right into it and we went from there. Pretty much text book / Hollywood style procedure.

For the record, this time around I followed all the primary advice given throughout this thread with regards to communication.

Case closed.
 
Whelp. Started the date with dinner. Some wasabi dares were made, all good fun.

Couldn't figure out where to go next so we went to her car. Cuddled, hand holding / stroking. Ended up in the back of my car making out & a certain level of 'groping'. Smooth conversations. It's all good. (no sex (but it felt naturally so), I drove an hour to this place and her place had family)

Kissing started with her talking about how she was worried she talks too much and I went right into it and we went from there. Pretty much text book / Hollywood style procedure.

For the record, this time around I followed all the primary advice given throughout this thread with regards to communication.

Case closed.

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I don't know what I'm doing

Jason, I am not a violent man, but this makes me want to punch you. It's not bad, but it's really self-indulgent. This is the stuff you say like, on the third date, when you're more comfortable around each other. Just being honest. I can appreciate how this sounds, because I have occasionally felt similar and written similar things, but I think you'd be better off doing something... more minimalist.

It made me realise how shallow I am :(

Pft, you're not shallow. Have Jason write something for you. You'll come off as super-deep.
 
The thing about minimalistic profiles is that...everyone has them. I admit that I immediately ignore the wall of text that begins with "I like long walks etc". A few have made me laugh out loud though, one in particular saying she isn't interested in guys with the Japan fetish, and the other complaining of Internet memes being used to impress her.
 
Wat.

You must keep going.

Maybe it was an accident? They don't let you change your answer to a question until 24 hours until I answer it. There was one one time that was something like "Do you believe evolution and creationism should be taught in schools?" I misread it and accidentally chose "No, evolution has no place in schools." I meant "No, creationism has no place in schools."
 
Well I'm supposed to have a date tomorrow with this girl who messaged me on HowAboutWe, but I'm probably going to cancel. She looked cute in her pictures on the website, but she must have been using some angles or something because when she added me on Facebook it was like she was a completely different looking girl.....and not for the better. Plus, she seems to be really religious, and I respect her beliefs but I'm not like that at all. She also wanted to bring a friend with her on our date which would have just complicated things more. I'd have more fun doing something else.

Also, what's your guys opinion on dating older girls? I'm only 21, and I'm at this stage where I'm still in college and not financially independent, but a few of the girls I want to pursue are out of college and have real jobs. There's this cute girl who works at the elementary school I volunteer at and she's older than me, but I still feel like a kid compared to her since I'm younger, haven't graduated, etc. Anyone ever feel like this before or am I the only one? :)
 
Alright, being single is interesting. I've been married for a long while. But now, I'm divorced and single. I'm dating around and I've got multiple females wanting my attention. I'm not good at this stuff anymore, how do people manage the dating scene? do you just date around until one really strikes you as interesting? or just kick it with em all and see whats up? or just have threesomes constantly? haha

...Dating is weird.


oh, /lj haha
 
I have a very low opinion of people who join dating sites looking for friendship. Oftentimes, these people are already in a romantic relationship with someone else.
 
Well I'm supposed to have a date tomorrow with this girl who messaged me on HowAboutWe, but I'm probably going to cancel. She looked cute in her pictures on the website, but she must have been using some angles or something because when she added me on Facebook it was like she was a completely different looking girl.....and not for the better. Plus, she seems to be really religious, and I respect her beliefs but I'm not like that at all. She also wanted to bring a friend with her on our date which would have just complicated things more. I'd have more fun doing something else.

Also, what's your guys opinion on dating older girls? I'm only 21, and I'm at this stage where I'm still in college and not financially independent, but a few of the girls I want to pursue are out of college and have real jobs. There's this cute girl who works at the elementary school I volunteer at and she's older than me, but I still feel like a kid compared to her since I'm younger, haven't graduated, etc. Anyone ever feel like this before or am I the only one? :)

1. I wouldn't bail, just go on it and see how it goes. Remember, if it turns out shittily, you never have to see that girl again.

2. I'm 22, and I generally have my age range set from 20-26 on dating sites. Somewhere within that age range is usually where the women I run into in real life are too. Anything beyond that, it just depends really. I don't have some hard rule against it necessarily.
 
I don't blame him. If I found out that a girl was using clever angles to mask how she really looks then that would completely turn me off to the point of not even bothering to take her out. It screams low esteem.
 
How is howaboutwe? Is it mostly for serious dating/relationships? I'm looking for more casual dating

I'm going to assume it's more for casual dating. Basically you make a profile and you can see other users date ideas. It seemed cool at first since it was different than OKC and POF, but there's way less people on it.
 
How is howaboutwe? Is it mostly for serious dating/relationships? I'm looking for more casual dating

It seems like a good idea, although it really sucks for me because there are a grand total of 5 people on it in my town.

I'm going to assume it's more for casual dating. Basically you make a profile and you can see other users date ideas. It seemed cool at first since it was different than OKC and POF, but there's way less people on it.

If I'm not mistaken, don't you have to pay to actually be able to send messages on there?

On a different note: PoF SERIOUSLY needs a revamp in website design. They need to stop stretching and squishing pictures and instead let the user center around their face (like Facebook or OKC does). Viewing some pages is a clusterfuck. When I looked at the "Viewed Me" page, I was confused which row of users viewed me, then I realized it was the bottom where there were very few. EXTREMELY confusing!
 
It seems like a good idea, although it really sucks for me because there are a grand total of 5 people on it in my town.



If I'm not mistaken, don't you have to pay to actually be able to send messages on there?

On a different note: PoF SERIOUSLY needs a revamp in website design. They need to stop stretching and squishing pictures and instead let the user center around their face (like Facebook or OKC does). Viewing some pages is a clusterfuck. When I looked at the "Viewed Me" page, I was confused which row of users viewed me, then I realized it was the bottom where there were very few. EXTREMELY confusing!

Yeah, forgot about that. I worked my way around that by sending messages through asking them out on dates option.
 
You know, even if you get banned, that's no guarantee you're not going to just spend all your time just reading even if you cannot post :P
 
I can never think of what to say in a message when they have such a minimal profile on OKC. Like some of them have nothing that I can pick out and use as a starter and I don't want to just do a boring "Hi, I'm blah blah" because they never get a reply. What do you do in that situation?
 
You know, even if you get banned, that's no guarantee you're not going to just spend all your time just reading even if you cannot post :P
Agreed.

I've been doing a bit more work recently by just turning the net off when I want to knuckle down.
 
I can never think of what to say in a message when they have such a minimal profile on OKC. Like some of them have nothing that I can pick out and use as a starter and I don't want to just do a boring "Hi, I'm blah blah" because they never get a reply. What do you do in that situation?

What started my current dating: I asked what she was looking for on OKC. She had nothing in her profile at all.
 
I can never think of what to say in a message when they have such a minimal profile on OKC. Like some of them have nothing that I can pick out and use as a starter and I don't want to just do a boring "Hi, I'm blah blah" because they never get a reply. What do you do in that situation?

I posted some of what not to say in that OKC thread. I would make a witty or sarcastic remark about something you do pick up on, in their profile. Those have been the most successful messages that I'd actually reply to.
 
so im talking to this girl who is pissed at her new boyfriend (known for 1.5 months, dating for 1 month, hasnt seen him for 2 weeks) and while i would definitely be interested in a relationship, i'd settle for hooking up. i wouldnt want to hook up with her and then hope it turns into a relationship, because if she cheats on him with me, why wouldnt she cheat on me with someone else, right?

anyways any advice about how to approach this situation so that i succeed, in one direction or the other? it would be quite the shame for absolutely nothing to happen when she says she's open to it.

we've exchanged maybe a hundred texts, and had a 3.5 hour phone conversation yesterday (met her two days ago) that got semi-deep into relationship feelings and really deep into sex/intimacy feelings
 
I posted some of what not to say in that OKC thread. I would make a witty or sarcastic remark about something you do pick up on, in their profile. Those have been the most successful messages that I'd actually reply to.

Yeah, I normally make a comment of something I see on their profile though it's kind of hard when the information is pretty much: 5'5". Likes to hang out with friends. Enjoy partying. Picture of her kissing a cat. Not much to go with! Maybe I should go with the fact there isn't much to go on?

Those comments you got were hilarious, hahaha.
 
so im talking to this girl who is pissed at her new boyfriend (known for 1.5 months, dating for 1 month, hasnt seen him for 2 weeks) and while i would definitely be interested in a relationship, i'd settle for hooking up. i wouldnt want to hook up with her and then hope it turns into a relationship, because if she cheats on him with me, why wouldnt she cheat on me with someone else, right?

anyways any advice about how to approach this situation so that i succeed, in one direction or the other? it would be quite the shame for absolutely nothing to happen when she says she's open to it.

we've exchanged maybe a hundred texts, and had a 3.5 hour phone conversation yesterday (met her two days ago) that got semi-deep into relationship feelings and really deep into sex/intimacy feelings

It's not going to happen, you're not going to get laid, abandon all hope. There's going to be some words, and that's it.
 
Actually, I like the minimalistic profiles more. Everyone on OKC tries soooooooo hard to be witty or funny or unique that when I find one that doesn't it's actually refreshing. Too many people go way overboard, they just come off as lame/nerdy or self-indulgent imo. It makes them come off as insecure and putting on airs. Not everybody, but a lot.

Also, I find it a turnoff if the person is not smiling in any of their pictures. It makes them seem unhappy and standoffish.
 
The thing about minimalistic profiles is that...everyone has them. I admit that I immediately ignore the wall of text that begins with "I like long walks etc". A few have made me laugh out loud though, one in particular saying she isn't interested in guys with the Japan fetish, and the other complaining of Internet memes being used to impress her.
The problem with your profile isn't that it's too long. The problem is that it's far too stuck up, you're trying to paint your life with an intellectually rose tinted brush and it sticks out sore thumb.
 
Fourth night out in a row has now ended ^^ Good times were had and I'm already looking forward to next week. I think we need to ban ourselves from the dance floor next week though. I get the feeling we're using it as a crutch so we won't have to talk to people, even if we do see a lot of progress there as well.

Interestingly enough, the four of us have very distinct dancing styles and we've all noticed it, so we made a lot of fun about ourselves tonight :) Good or bad styles, we seem to lighten up the places no matter where we go.
 
The problem with your profile isn't that it's too long. The problem is that it's far too stuck up, you're trying to paint your life with an intellectually rose tinted brush and it sticks out sore thumb.

Yeah...

Though if it holds true there's someone for everyone out there, there is a girl out there that loves this schtick.
 
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