Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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I like this girl, it's just that maybe I come across as bad because I talk about them here, but I'm just looking for advice when describing the situations. But maybe I really do need time for myself, too much has happened recently.

Dude, it really sounds like this bothers you a lot. And like you already have to put in a lot of work. That really isn't the proper way to go after two weeks of 'dating'. It shouldn't be this headache inducing and well, poisonous for your normal life.


On top of that, the way you described it you're making an awful lot of concessions and being attentive, while she's completely not. It's great that you trust 'eachother' enough for her to dance with other guys, let them sleep together in the same bed and let her get some guys phone number. But does the trust go either way? Or does it simply means she pretty much gets to do what she wants, and you're supposed to be ok with it?

And the dirty talk one moment, and not being allowed to have sex/hug her/touch her butt is a really awful game of pushing you away and reeling you back in. I hate that sort of game-playing. And intimacy is a great part of a starting relationship. You shouldn't have to go without it. And it definitely shouldn't get this negative a connotation for you. All because she uses it to control you. What it sounds like to me, of course.
 
Yeah I'm frustrated. She just left my place. It's annoying me that she talks nicely to this guy "hi sweet, maybe I will call u later and we can meet" in my fucking face. Besides, she wanted to talk with one of her guy friends about something but couldn't because I were in the same room. She left her stuff here. But I'm not going out with her anywhere this weekend. Thankfully I'm gonna have a good time with my nieces tomorrow and got stuff to do today.

She left her ex because he were jealous which I understand she would do. But I start to understand where her ex's jealousy might have come from or were it could have started. I'm not the jealous type but it is bothering that she call other guys 'sweet' when I thought I were the 'sweet' and the way she talks to people she have just met. She wants to be nice to all people but this is extreme. =/

I think I now understand when people in this thread says that we became bf/gf way too quick.

And this morning it was my fault that she lost her bag. But I never agreed to be the one to make sure we remembered her bag from the bar. She's the one who forgot it.
 
Yeah I'm frustrated. She just left my place. It's annoying me that she talks nicely to this guy "hi sweet, maybe I will call u later and we can meet" in my fucking face. Besides, she wanted to talk with one of her guy friends about something but couldn't because I were in the same room. She left her stuff here. But I'm not going out with her anywhere this weekend. Thankfully I'm gonna have a good time with my nieces tomorrow and got stuff to do today.

BAIL. OUT.

Like LuckyBoyCeo said, you will find someone you actually click with and not just settle for. I went through a similar process, although not quite to this degree. I stopped seeing that girl, and met someone MUCH better for me. Now she's my girlfriend.
 
Girl I'm friends with patted me on the shoulder after we finished talking. What does that even mean?

I'm not to interested in her, but have no idea how to read such a situation.
 
BAIL. OUT.

Like LuckyBoyCeo said, you will find someone you actually click with and not just settle for. I went through a similar process, although not quite to this degree. I stopped seeing that girl, and met someone MUCH better for me. Now she's my girlfriend.
I kind of am reminded by you, that I'm probably just settling instead of clicking with her.

Her stuff is here so she can just come pick it up later. But you guys know me from my other recent ex, what a hard time I have of getting out of "relationships".
 
Yeah I'm frustrated. She just left my place. It's annoying me that she talks nicely to this guy "hi sweet, maybe I will call u later and we can meet" in my fucking face. Besides, she wanted to talk with one of her guy friends about something but couldn't because I were in the same room. She left her stuff here. But I'm not going out with her anywhere this weekend. Thankfully I'm gonna have a good time with my nieces tomorrow and got stuff to do today.

She left her ex because he were jealous which I understand she would do. But I start to understand where her ex's jealousy might have come from or were it could have started. I'm not the jealous type but it is bothering that she call other guys 'sweet' when I thought I were the 'sweet' and the way she talks to people she have just met. She wants to be nice to all people but this is extreme. =/

I think I now understand when people in this thread says that we became bf/gf way too quick.

And this morning it was my fault that she lost her bag. But I never agreed to be the one to make sure we remembered her bag from the bar. She's the one who forgot it.

Wow....soooooo many bad memory's about my ex. Question, how old is she? How spoiled is she? Why does she think it's your responsibility that HER bag doesn't get lost?

Please don't stay in the 'relationship' and put up with a lot of shit like this, and her wanting to call some other dude. Just because you're afraid you'll never find a girlfriend again. It's really really really not worth it. That shit will kill you in the end. Trust me. Bail out.
 
Girl I'm friends with patted me on the shoulder after we finished talking. What does that even mean?

I'm not to interested in her, but have no idea how to read such a situation.
What was the context?

I kind of am reminded by you, that I'm probably just settling instead of clicking with her.

Her stuff is here so she can just come pick it up later. But you guys know me from my other recent ex, what a hard time I have of getting out of "relationships".
If you've already determined you're "settling," then why are you still in the relationship? Settling just means you can do better. Why settle when you know there's better out there for you?

I mean, shit dude, think about that for a second.
 
She is not spoiled. She is 23 and I don't know why it's my responsibility, I guess because I'm her boyfriend. But it really do bother me she call other guys 'sweet' and all that but I think she also just want to be nice and make friends. Actually it's not so much what she calls others, it's more that she talk the same way to them as she do to me. It kind of feels like those Facebook people who want to add to their friendlists but just in real life lol.

And come to think of it, her leaving her shoes, book and clothes at my place could be another way of her controlling me? Making sure she got me? I don't know, conspiracies hehe.

But I'm totally paranoid right now, as I have been stressed and down with headache the last two days and has had no sleep last night.


What was the context?


If you've already determined you're "settling," then why are you still in the relationship? Settling just means you can do better. Why settle when you know there's better out there for you?

I mean, shit dude, think about that for a second.
It's not that I have decided I'm already settling. It's just something I'm chewing on now that you mentioned it. I gotta think, but I'm tired now.
 
She is not spoiled. She is 23 and I don't know why it's my responsibility, I guess because I'm her boyfriend. But it really do bother me she call other guys 'sweet' and all that but I think she also just want to be nice and make friends. Actually it's not so much what she calls others, it's more that she talk the same way to them as she do to me. It kind of feels like those Facebook people who want to add to their friendlists but just in real life lol.

And come to think of it, her leaving her shoes, book and clothes at my place could be another way of her controlling me? Making sure she got me? I don't know, conspiracies hehe.

But I'm totally paranoid right now, as I have been stressed and down with headache the last two days and has had no sleep last night.



It's not that I have decided I'm already settling. It's just something I'm chewing on now that you mentioned it. I gotta think, but I'm tired now.
I think you should sleep on it. Give yourself a break from her, a break from GAF, and just think about your situation. No outside influences.

Your emotions are trying to talk yourself out of splitting with her. It's natural. You like her, but deep down you know that this relationship is not healthy for you. I understand it's difficult splitting with someone, nobody is going to argue that here. In this case however, I think it's for the best. From what I know about your situation, she seems extremely controlling and that's not something you need right now or in any relationship for that matter.

Regardless, I think you should give this some unbiased thought. Only then do I think you'll realize what everyone has been trying to tell you thus far.
 
What was the context?



We had been studying in a room at uni together and I had just come back from the bathroom when she was leaving. After a brief chat she left and patted me on the shoulder. I'm a little confused as she is not really a touchy feely girl. Don't want to lead her on, but I enjoy her company so don't want to have to drop her.
 
So there's this asian chick. I'm not as crazy about asian girls as most Seattle dudes, but I do love a nice ass, and she's got a hell of an ass for an asian girl. We're friends via facebook and twitter (she added me on both accounts, despite zero mutual friends), so I'm thinking I may try and schedule a meet up (not a date), and see where it goes. At this point, I'm just looking for a rebound, and I'm pretty sure I could get it from her.

DISCLAIMER: I'm drunk, and it's my birthday. Also looking forward to seeing how I feel in the morning when I'm sober.

We had been studying in a room at uni together and I had just come back from the bathroom when she was leaving. After a brief chat she left and patted me on the shoulder. I'm a little confused as she is not really a touchy feely girl. Don't want to lead her on, but I enjoy her company so don't want to have to drop her.
I wouldn't stress it. As of right now, I think everything is strictly platonic. She was just feeling comfortable with you in the moment and I doubt it was a sign of anything romantic. If she continues to be physical/flirty with you then maybe there's something to it, but right now you're just fine.
 
I just wish to live my youth, since I haven't at all yet.

I don't even want a relationship, I just honestly want something a bit more casual.

It just feels to me I'm past that age now, and it just gets me down.

I'm panicking inside because I'm growing up faster than I want to, and it just seems like there's no fun for me to have.

I just feel like all my options are closing on me.

Anyway I know I've been drinking a bit tonight, but that's just how I feel.
Felt pretty bad last night, hence this mess of a post.

Not nice going up and down like a fucking roller coaster all the time.
 
Felt pretty bad last night, hence this mess of a post.

Not nice going up and down like a fucking roller coaster all the time.

Haven't really been following your posts too closely, but it seems you might have some depression or something that you need to talk with a professional about.
 
Yeah I'm frustrated. She just left my place. It's annoying me that she talks nicely to this guy "hi sweet, maybe I will call u later and we can meet" in my fucking face. Besides, she wanted to talk with one of her guy friends about something but couldn't because I were in the same room.

That's not your girlfriend bro. Bail out.
 
Yeah I'm frustrated. She just left my place. It's annoying me that she talks nicely to this guy "hi sweet, maybe I will call u later and we can meet" in my fucking face. Besides, she wanted to talk with one of her guy friends about something but couldn't because I were in the same room. She left her stuff here. But I'm not going out with her anywhere this weekend. Thankfully I'm gonna have a good time with my nieces tomorrow and got stuff to do today.

She left her ex because he were jealous which I understand she would do. But I start to understand where her ex's jealousy might have come from or were it could have started. I'm not the jealous type but it is bothering that she call other guys 'sweet' when I thought I were the 'sweet' and the way she talks to people she have just met. She wants to be nice to all people but this is extreme. =/

I think I now understand when people in this thread says that we became bf/gf way too quick.

And this morning it was my fault that she lost her bag. But I never agreed to be the one to make sure we remembered her bag from the bar. She's the one who forgot it.

Dude, wtf, you still with this girl?
 
Yeah I'm frustrated. She just left my place. It's annoying me that she talks nicely to this guy "hi sweet, maybe I will call u later and we can meet" in my fucking face..

Baaaaail!
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Was chatting to a cute girl, flirting, got her number, texted, flirted a bit more back and forth on that, she seemed into it(this is over like 3 days), I send a message and...then stops replying and haven't heard from her in 2 days.

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Was chatting to a cute girl, flirting, got her number, texted, flirted a bit more back and forth on that, she seemed into it(this is over like 3 days), I send a message and...then stops replying and haven't heard from her in 2 days.

Are you my clone? Or am I yours? Either way, good luck with it. I know how you feel :)

I'm probably going climbing with the girl I (haven't) been texting with. She asked me if I still was planning to go climbing, friday next week. That's my kickboxing night, but perhaps I might reschedule that. There is hope yet!
 
just thought of a new easy way to get rid of limiting beliefs


imagine a piece of paper in your head with a belief you have, but want to get rid of. write down the belief in your head, on the piece of paper, then rip it in half. Do it like 10 times and notice the shift in your brain.
 
We had been studying in a room at uni together and I had just come back from the bathroom when she was leaving. After a brief chat she left and patted me on the shoulder. I'm a little confused as she is not really a touchy feely girl. Don't want to lead her on, but I enjoy her company so don't want to have to drop her.

Uhm, maybe she just decided to touch your shoulder? Really don't read anything into anything so benign.

Regarding Anastacio's situation-

This girl isn't his new best friend, as he mentioned that they are sleeping together and she does refer to him as a 'boyfriend'. The problem is she wants to have a particular relationship with her male friends, and she seems to care very little for his own wishes when it comes to what they do in their time together.

I mean I am a very trusting forward thinking guy, but if my girlfriend told me "Hey, I'm going to crash in the same bed as my best bud (male) this weekend", I would be all "Uhhhhhhh". The way she acts around these friends and you Anastacio, she doesn't even give you the opportunity to learn how to trust her - she isn't easing you into anything, she is being sooooo inconsiderate about how she is behaving, and is expecting you to just cope or step away. The same with what you guys do - she decides where you go, who you guys hang out with, when you do whatever - and it sounds like you don't have a say whatsoever.

It's been 2 weeks, you should hopefully be over that initial mooning situation where you think you've fallen in love and be taking a serious level headed look at the relationship - you know better than anyone else if this girl's behaviour is something that you WANT to deal with (important distinction, not something you CAN deal with, but something you WANT to deal with). In my opinion? Step the fuck away, and go for something less crazy - there are plenty of girls out there who are much sweeter, considerate and maybe won't drag you out every other day to party.
 
Yeah dood, if it is like this so early in the relationship, it is only going to get worse. This isn't a bf/gf mechanic anymore. If anything, it sounds like she is controlling you and making you miserable. Either sit down, have a talk with her and explain how you feel, or get out and find someone more compatible. From what you are saying, it seems like the two of you have damn near nothing in common and disagree on the most simplest of things.

You shouldn't be putting yourself in this situation.
 
Yeah I guess I gotta talk with her. She asked if I were free tonight so I could come eat dinner at her friends place but I'm getting sick of being with all of her hundreds of friends everytime. I guess this'll end sooner rather than later.

But on another note, it would be interesting to see how she reacts if I make our relationship more on my terms. But I think she'll become uncomfortable lol. She just also have her sweet side were she want me to be okay, and this is where I should tell her that I can't go to parties almost every night. I should communicate more clearly to her. When she dragged me to the bar last time I should have continued to say no but it also feels like she's not listening. But it would be interesting to see how it'll go if I changed the dynamic so that I got more to say in the end.

I should take a talk and if she can't accept my view on all these things then I should bail out. Or just bail out right away.

Also she told me today I should have told her I had a deadline and some stuff to do today but I DID tell her yesterday, clearly. She's not listening. Bail out, fuck yeah.

I think I might have given her the wrong impression on me, as we went partying 3-4 times our first week. I wanted to try party but I were never that type. So she honestly might just think that I like going out all the time too. It might be that she think we both like it, so it's me who should be more clear. I can go out but not all the time.

Actually I don't need to write more about this. I'm kinda pretty sad right now, gonna sleep.

The post have been edited here and there so it might seem inconsistent.

Let's put this one to rest. I know what I got to think through.
 
Felt pretty bad last night, hence this mess of a post.

Not nice going up and down like a fucking roller coaster all the time.
Haven't really been following your posts too closely, but it seems you might have some depression or something that you need to talk with a professional about.
I sadly suffer with OCD.

I want to live and enjoy life a little bit, and I'm not at all ready to settle with anything right now.

I barely went out during college, despite wanting to (lack of events and other reasons) and I feel I'll never get the chance to simply go out and enjoy life with a full-time job (which I've yet to get).

My biggest regret was going to a college close to home, because it meant I could simply get the bus/train. Sure it was cheaper living at home, but it really would've benefited me a lot living away.

I feel better recently when it comes to my self-esteem/confidence, but I'm simply panicking because I've yet to live my youth at all.
 
I feel like shit right now. She's sleeping right beside me. It just annoys me when I told her already that I had no energy for party or bars that she then takes us to a bar anyway because her friend happens to be there. I guess I'll drive her home and then try make this relationship a little bit more on my terms. Like not going out to parties and instead taking it slow. Bailing out is also an option but still, I should give us a chance I guess. :/ I dunno why, my mind is just everywhere at this very moment.

Edit: she just told me to wake her up at 8, I asked her if she don't have an alarm. Then she told me to give her phone and I said nah lol. She's fine.

Just tell her you love her and want to make it work for the kids.
 
I feel like shit right now. She's sleeping right beside me. It just annoys me when I told her already that I had no energy for party or bars that she then takes us to a bar anyway because her friend happens to be there. I guess I'll drive her home and then try make this relationship a little bit more on my terms. Like not going out to parties and instead taking it slow. Bailing out is also an option but still, I should give us a chance I guess. :/ I dunno why, my mind is just everywhere at this very moment.

Edit: she just told me to wake her up at 8, I asked her if she don't have an alarm. Then she told me to give her phone and I said nah lol. She's fine.

Time to stop sleeping next to her underwear.
 
There are plenty of actual nice guys (read: "considerate person") who still have enormous trouble finding a girl, though. Boring, being labeled not sexual, or lack of chemistry are plenty of things most girls nowadays throw onto genuinely nice guys.

When women say they want a "nice guy" it is implied they also want an interesting man who they are attracted to because they're human beings.
 
I sadly suffer with OCD.

I want to live and enjoy life a little bit, and I'm not at all ready to settle with anything right now.

I barely went out during college, despite wanting to (lack of events and other reasons) and I feel I'll never get the chance to simply go out and enjoy life with a full-time job (which I've yet to get).

My biggest regret was going to a college close to home, because it meant I could simply get the bus/train. Sure it was cheaper living at home, but it really would've benefited me a lot.

I feel better recently when it comes to my self-esteem/confidence, but I'm simply panicking because I've yet to live my youth at all.

"Youth" is relative. For men it's a little easier due to the whole biological clock women have, but you can be 30 and still "young".

Living your life is also relative. What do you want to do before you get "tied down" into a job? Travel? Extreme sports? Live abroad? What's preventing you from doing that right now? Is it money? If so, get a job, work for a year, then quit and go do things. Is it time? You've got lots of time, make a plan (e.g. "by the end of 2013 I will have travelled to Europe").

Don't grow despondent at how you "wasted" the last few years. You can't change that. Move on. Look at what you're doing today and tomorrow, not what you did yesterday. Life's too short to wonder "what if". Spend time wondering about "what's next".

EDIT: back to the job thing, a full-time job is not the end of the world socially speaking, nor is it the Best Job Ever(TM). People don't work at the same job forever. You may find a great job tomorrow, but next year you may find a better one. Or you may even decide to switch industries 5 years down the line. So many people switch careers you rarely find someone doing the same thing for 20 years.
 
Woah.. My gf is out partying and want me to join. I tell her I don't feel like it and she says it's strange. I reply I don't think so. Then I get this message:

"Hmm ok let me be alone tonight. Don't disturb. Night"

I'm like, woah really!?

I'm leaving her, period. She can't even respect that I don't feel like going out.

I have offered to pick her up later, but only so she can come get her stuff so I can kick her out of my life.
 
Woah.. My gf is out partying and want me to join. I tell her I don't feel like it and she says it's strange. I reply I don't think so. Then I get this message:

"Hmm ok let me be alone tonight. Don't disturb. Night"

I'm like, woah really!?

I'm leaving her, period. She can't even respect that I don't feel like going out.

Yeah my first inclination would be to say something shitty like "Sorry, I didn't realize I was a disturbance." But I wouldn't recommend that. The right thing to do is to do something genuinely fun and ignore her weak attempt at throwing shade.
 
Now I can't sleep again.

Should I go to the city, and then dump her? Should I wait until tomorrow? Should i call? How should I respond?

No wait, got an idea. I could go to the bar and flirt with the other girls. =p nah it would become messy probably.

Besides, she have been at her friends (Alex) place earlier today singing and he happens to think she's cute. I'm probably totally over-thinking right now but I'm in a state were I feel like I'm being stamped on and disrespected.

I'm 100%, she's out.

I'll probably meet her tomorrow and then tell her to leave with her stuff here. I don't even wanna be her friend.
 
Now I can't sleep again.

Should I go to the city, and then dump her? Should I wait until tomorrow? Should i call? How should I respond?

No wait, got an idea. I could go to the bar and flirt with the other girls. =p nah it would become messy probably.

Besides, she have been at her friends (Alex) place earlier today singing and he happens to think she's cute. I'm probably totally over-thinking right now but I'm in a state were I feel like I'm being stamped on and disrespected.

I'm 100%, she's out.

I'll probably meet her tomorrow and then tell her to leave with her stuff here. I don't even wanna be her friend.

Just txt her "Pick up your stuff tomorrow" and move on
 
A note for everyone here;
NEVER TAKE A NIGHT SHIFT THAT'S 5 DAYS A WEEK

I've been on the night shift for years but it's only been the past year or so that I've been single again. Holy mother of god does it kill your love life. Ok maybe not kill, but massively hinders.

Not having the ability to go on dates because I'm at fucking work has been pretty frustrating over the past month or two. Probably not helping that I've been busy on weekends. Going away for Mother's Day this weekend as well. Oh well, I'll survive. At least the job pays well.
 
Now she texted me that she's just teasing me and that she didn't hear the phone calling. I don't think this is fun at all, I am an emotional wreck right now. I have been so good at not overthinking stuff and letting her live her own life and I'm not jealous at all, but all these rules, things, picking up numbers, ignoring me etc. isn't that much fun to me.
 
Now she texted me that she's just teasing me and that she didn't hear the phone calling. I don't think this is fun at all, I am an emotional wreck right now. I have been so good at not overthinking stuff and letting her live her own life and I'm not jealous at all, but all these rules, things, picking up numbers, ignoring me etc. isn't that much fun to me.

So are you just compiling a list of why it's a shitty relationship, or?
 
You seem to be real indecisive about this and are starting to act a bit immature. First things first, find out what you want.

If you want to try to work things out, talk to her and let it out on the table. Tell her how you feel and what you want things to go from there.

If you don't want to be with her, end it civilly and move on.
 
We had been studying in a room at uni together and I had just come back from the bathroom when she was leaving. After a brief chat she left and patted me on the shoulder. I'm a little confused as she is not really a touchy feely girl. Don't want to lead her on, but I enjoy her company so don't want to have to drop her.
This means nothing

Well, except maybe that she's getting more comfortable with you as a person in general, you know... less shy. There's absolutely no romantic subtext to be gleamed from that interaction. Hell, she could practically give you a hug in that situation and it wouldn't mean anything romantic.
 
Now she texted me that she's just teasing me and that she didn't hear the phone calling. I don't think this is fun at all, I am an emotional wreck right now. I have been so good at not overthinking stuff and letting her live her own life and I'm not jealous at all, but all these rules, things, picking up numbers, ignoring me etc. isn't that much fun to me.


just absolve her of your life. Any relationship you have with her going forward will just be constant power struggles between you two.
 
Now she texted me that she's just teasing me and that she didn't hear the phone calling. I don't think this is fun at all, I am an emotional wreck right now. I have been so good at not overthinking stuff and letting her live her own life and I'm not jealous at all, but all these rules, things, picking up numbers, ignoring me etc. isn't that much fun to me.

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bruh she lying like shit.

ditch her.
 
Was chatting to a cute girl, flirting, got her number, texted, flirted a bit more back and forth on that, she seemed into it(this is over like 3 days), I send a message and...then stops replying and haven't heard from her in 2 days.

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you pursued her and over-texted her


it doesn't work.
 
Well, my girlfriend and I just broke up today. Distance issues, we barely got to see each other.

I'll probably join you guys much later on when I'm ready. I have no experience in dating outside of college.
 
Great line I heard today:

"A woman who has “grown out of” dating jerks is a woman who is too old, too crazy or grown too fat to appeal to the unruly jerks who truly excite her."


Was chatting to a cute girl, flirting, got her number, texted, flirted a bit more back and forth on that, she seemed into it(this is over like 3 days), I send a message and...then stops replying and haven't heard from her in 2 days.

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Rule of 3: After initial contact is made, never send more than one text for every 3 you receive from her.

Rule of 3, addendum A: Any idea you can get across in 3 words or less, use 3 words or less.
 
just absolve her of your life. Any relationship you have with her going forward will just be constant power struggles between you two.

I think so too. The great thing is, that I have many projects going on and that I'm starting at the gym for strength training next week!
 
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