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[The Antitype]

Argh. I cannot pick-up waitresses or bartenders. It's a conspiracy between my genetic makeup and fate.

Any time I meet one I like, I build rapport, but I never manage to find the right time to grab their number. It always seems like they're bouncing around too much. Obviously it's just perception on my part, since I've managed to keep them engaged in a convo for that long... it just feels so much more artificial and invasive asking somebody in the middle of their job.

Of course, there have been times when I've managed, and wouldn't you know it, they have boyfriends.... and no, they're not just saying that to kill the convo, cause I usually get'em added on Facebook anyway, and yeah, they're in a relationship.

Argh.

 

[ecurbj]

Argh. I cannot pick-up waitresses or bartenders. It's a conspiracy between my genetic makeup and fate.

Any time I meet one I like, I build rapport, but I never manage to find the right time to grab their number. It always seems like they're bouncing around too much. Obviously it's just perception on my part, since I've managed to keep them engaged in a convo for that long... it just feels so much more artificial and invasive asking somebody in the middle of their job.

Of course, there have been times when I've managed, and wouldn't you know it, they have boyfriends.... and no, they're not just saying that to kill the convo, cause I usually get'em added on Facebook anyway, and yeah, they're in a relationship.

Argh.

Maybe this article can give you some insight: http://matingmarket.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/dont-hit-on-women-who-are-paid-to-be-nice-to-you/

I never would try to hit on chicks that are bartenders or waitresses. It's just a waste of time really.

 

[Minamu]

You're good looking enough to be able to give them your number. Why do all that extra work trying to get them to give their number to you? If you've been in this thread for a while, you know that some of us will always respond with that

 

[The Antitype]

Maybe this article can give you some insight: http://matingmarket.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/dont-hit-on-women-who-are-paid-to-be-nice-to-you/

I never would try to hit on chicks that are bartenders or waitresses. It's just a waste of time really.

Yeah, I see their point.

But I like the challenge.

The way I see it, I'm already in the restaurant. I'm there to eat, but the food isn't always there. So I may as well kill time having a fun conversation and possibly turning it into something else.

And quite frankly, I'd love the trick to get into the friendzone with just one of these chicks, and get her number that way, cause then I could just infiltrate the group through her and meet the rest at a bar or club or whatever casually.

You're good looking enough to be able to give them your number. Why do all that extra work trying to get them to give their number to you? If you've been in this thread for a while, you know that some of us will always respond with that

I don't like putting the ball in somebody else's court that early. I'd rather be the one in charge of making the move and making contact, not waiting and hoping somebody else (let alone somebody that probably gets hit on 100 times an hour) makes contact.

 

[Tess3ract]

I just realized something....she's acting like a child. Like, if she was a child that knew a bunch of things and was in an adult's body, that would be her. She just wants my attention sometimes. she wants to tell me because she feels guilty for what she did, even though she likes having done all those things.

And it makes sense she'd flirt with all these guys and be such a whore, because she wants attention. She wants to feel like she's loved because she doesn't believe she's worth it. So if anyone comes close, she gets scared and pushes them away. "Any attention is good attention"

and I'm playing into it because I'm lonely, and "any attention is good attention".

And this other girl I like, she said I could call her, and I called her once and we talked and it was going great, but she's busy often so the few times I've tried to call her since then she never answers or texts later going "sorry, hanging out with a friend" or she's at work (store manager). I don't want to call her too often because I don't want her thinking I'm needy or something, I don't want to scare her off.

 

[ecurbj]

Yeah, I see their point.

But I like the challenge.

The way I see it, I'm already in the restaurant. I'm there to eat, but the food isn't always there. So I may as well kill time having a fun conversation and possibly turning it into something else.

And quite frankly, I'd love the trick to get into the friendzone with just one of these chicks, and get her number that way, cause then I could just infiltrate the group through her and meet the rest at a bar or club or whatever casually.

...

Ah. I never looked at it in that way. Thanks for sharing that. It's more of a challenge but if she throws the boyfriend card you can always revert to getting her number to see her other friends or social network.

Hmmm. Brilliant!

 

[Vermillion]

Maybe this article can give you some insight: http://matingmarket.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/dont-hit-on-women-who-are-paid-to-be-nice-to-you/

I never would try to hit on chicks that are bartenders or waitresses. It's just a waste of time really.

Unless, of course, you're Harvey Spector.

 

[Gruco]

So, I broke up w my ex about a month and a half ago. Started seeing a new girl, and while she's cute, fun, etc., I've reached the conclusion that I just don't want to pursue anything right now and just want to spend some more time being single again. Which I probably should have been smart enough to realize before this started, but regardless, now I need to tell her.

Anyway, I suppose what I'm getting at is this: What are the rules of thumb for when you need to call it off in person?

 

[low-G]

Girl I dated and really liked (and is a 10) is now dating an official sugar daddy (as in she receives large sums of money) because she needs the money. Yeah. How should I feel?

Got two dates lined up now for the coming week, so I guess things could be much worse.

 

[Ghost_Protocol]

Anyone have serious trouble finding attractive single girls in their area? It feels like every girl I talk to is either married or has a boyfriend.......It's reached the point where it seems like I'm just going to have to steal someone away from their partner to get anywhere.....

 

[Vermillion]

Unless, of course, you're Harvey Spector.

Shit, or T Pain

 

[Attackthebase]

Anyone have serious trouble finding attractive single girls in their area? It feels like every girl I talk to is either married or has a boyfriend.......It's reached the point where it seems like I'm just going to have to steal someone away from their partner to get anywhere.....

My town has that problem. The girl I have found attracted and not detach to either had boyfriends or were gay.

 

[Ghost_Protocol]

The girl I have found attracted and not detach to either had boyfriends or were gay.

????

 

[Log4Girlz]

Girl I dated and really liked (and is a 10) is now dating an official sugar daddy (as in she receives large sums of money) because she needs the money. Yeah. How should I feel?

Got two dates lined up now for the coming week, so I guess things could be much worse.

You should feel poor

Anyone have serious trouble finding attractive single girls in their area? It feels like every girl I talk to is either married or has a boyfriend.......It's reached the point where it seems like I'm just going to have to steal someone away from their partner to get anywhere.....

Good looking girls are almost always with partners. You have to charm them enough where they choose you over someone else.

 

[-ImaginaryInsider]

Do you really think this?

What is a person to do if he/she is trying to improve herself? At a certain point, it has dwelve into social ties. At a certain point, a person has to be brave and try to do it. I don't think people should be discouraged from trying.

I think if you are wigging out within 25 minutes of being asked out, and your nearly 30, and have a decade of relationship experience, you probably should know to step back from the dating scene and work on yourself.

It's only a pattern I've experienced with older girls, and its almost always trust issues, usually conveyed on tumblr, twitter, or fb. It's way more baggage than I ever expected to find.

 

[Ashhong]

Sigh...so my girlfriend who I had been dating for about a year now called it quits today. She basically just doesn't feel the same as she used to and can't see a future together. It hurts, but I can understand. She was my best friend too though, and I couldn't stand to lose her, so we are going to continue talking, and just be friendly and see where it goes.

This sucks.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Sigh...so my girlfriend who I had been dating for about a year now called it quits today. She basically just doesn't feel the same as she used to and can't see a future together. It hurts, but I can understand. She was my best friend too though, and I couldn't stand to lose her, so we are going to continue talking, and just be friendly and see where it goes.

This sucks.

Be sure to expect the worst, be careful. When she starts dating someone else, its going to sting.

 

[zethren]

Sigh...so my girlfriend who I had been dating for about a year now called it quits today. She basically just doesn't feel the same as she used to and can't see a future together. It hurts, but I can understand. She was my best friend too though, and I couldn't stand to lose her, so we are going to continue talking, and just be friendly and see where it goes.

This sucks.

I know exactly how you feel, TRUST me. Yeah, it does suck. But given some time and space, she might just come around (if that's what you want). Especially if it was ended on friendly terms. Don't let her use you, though.

And yeah, what log said. If you are still in love with her/very attached to her, then being there for her while she dates other people isn't worth it I think. It will hurt big time, and isn't worth the emotional pain. If that happens, it's time to walk away.

 

[Pollux]

Sigh...so my girlfriend who I had been dating for about a year now called it quits today. She basically just doesn't feel the same as she used to and can't see a future together. It hurts, but I can understand. She was my best friend too though, and I couldn't stand to lose her, so we are going to continue talking, and just be friendly and see where it goes.

This sucks.

Right there with ya pal. Except for me it was the GF of 4 years. It gets better.

 

[npfpof]

Anybody here pick up women while out doing errands and stuff?

 

[Log4Girlz]

Anybody here pick up women while out doing errands and stuff?

Yeah when I'm at the store I make sure to pick one up, two if they're on sale.

 

[Ashhong]

Be sure to expect the worst, be careful. When she starts dating someone else, its going to sting.

It's a complicated situation. I have actually kept in touch with all of my ex girlfriends, and am good friends with them. The difference here is that I usually leave some time between breaking up and being friends, which isn't the case here. I will be cautious, but I feel like its something I have to do.

It's really weird, I definitely feel in love with her, as in, I want to be with her. But I feel like if we can go back to being friends, that I'll be ok when she finds someone new. Only time will tell though.

 

[Pollux]

Yeah when I'm at the store I make sure to pick one up, two if they're on sale.

9/10

 

[NateDrake]

Getting a haircut tomorrow and have been thinking of getting my eyebrows waxed while there. Has any guy here had their eyebrows waxed before?

 

[Log4Girlz]

Getting a haircut tomorrow and have been thinking of getting my eyebrows waxed while there. Has any guy here had their eyebrows waxed before?

Just make sure you don't wax them all off, just some sculpting.

 

[NateDrake]

Just make sure you don't wax them all off, just some sculpting.

I assume the stylist will have the skill and general idea of that when asked. I don't want some horrid drawn on look like women go for these days....

 

[Log4Girlz]

I assume the stylist will have the skill and general idea of that when asked. I don't want some horrid drawn on look like women go for these days....

My ex bought me some little blades on a stick and showed me how to sculpt myself a bit. I keep the general natural outline but cut away any hairs in between the brows and stray hairs that fall outside the natural shape.

 

[NateDrake]

My ex bought me some little blades on a stick and showed me how to sculpt myself a bit. I keep the general natural outline but cut away any hairs in between the brows and stray hairs that fall outside the natural shape.

This is exactly what I want done, getting rid of the stray stuff outside the natural shape. So I guess a basic sculpt should do. How long does a waxing last before needed again? I know if you use a blade it takes about 3 days to grow back.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

This is exactly what I want done, getting rid of the stray stuff outside the natural shape. So I guess a basic sculpt should do. How long does a waxing last before needed again? I know if you use a blade it takes about 3 days to grow back.

3-6 weeks depending on the person.

 

[Log4Girlz]

This is exactly what I want done, getting rid of the stray stuff outside the natural shape. So I guess a basic sculpt should do. How long does a waxing last before needed again? I know if you use a blade it takes about 3 days to grow back.

I've read online up to 6 weeks.

 

[ZombieFred]

Sigh...so my girlfriend who I had been dating for about a year now called it quits today. She basically just doesn't feel the same as she used to and can't see a future together. It hurts, but I can understand. She was my best friend too though, and I couldn't stand to lose her, so we are going to continue talking, and just be friendly and see where it goes.

This sucks.

Since it was just a year and your friendship (I'd presume) was far longer than the time you was going out, I'd imagine you two can be fine still as good friends once those certain doors are closed after time. That's what I am hoping for anyhow because I can't be friends at all with my ex from a relationship after five years because of how it ended and the kind of character she has become today and it's something I don't wish for others to experience or learn the painful way. She still tries to communicate with me though but I am a lot indifferent about it now so it's all good.

 

[shinshoryuken]

Hi Dating-GAF,

I didn't read the whole tread but the first post, but I would like to give out advice to anyone who's wants to start dating asian girl.

I don't want to call myself an expert, but so far I've been lucky enough to only date hot asian girl and succeed. I had interviewed countless of girl and also read countless of dating book(which some are crap) so I got the experience. I was even going to make my own youtube channel, but I'm lazy. So if anyone wants some dating advice on asian girls, feel free to ask for advice....I'm just here to help, nothing else........because with great powers, comes great responsibility..any I'm willing to share.

 

[ZombieFred]

Hi Dating-GAF,

I didn't read the whole tread but the first post, but I would like to give out advice to anyone who's wants to start dating asian girl.

I don't want to call myself an expert, but so far I've been lucky enough to only date hot asian girl and succeed. I had interviewed countless of girl and also read countless of dating book(which some are crap) so I got the experience. I was even going to make my own youtube channel, but I'm lazy. So if anyone wants some dating advice on asian girls, feel free to ask for advice....I'm just here to help, nothing else........because with great powers, comes great responsibility..any I'm willing to share.

From your experience, do Asian women (oriental say from Korea/China/Japan) prefer people from the west than their own culture or is it a mix?

 

[shinshoryuken]

From your experience, do Asian women (oriental say from Korea/China/Japan) prefer people from the west than their own culture or is it a mix?

Some will only date Asian. BUT a few prefer will date interracial.

The reason is that, to them they believe that a mix baby will end up being beautiful. They want that hapa(mix asian) baby. Its their fertilization instinct.

Parents wise, majority of Chinese/Japanese/Korean parent would want to stick with there own race.

but the some asian(vietnamese/pinay) will be fine with interracial dating and with other asian race.

To be honest, Asian guys are like almost the bottom of the barrel interns of looks to women(all race), that's why you see very few asian guys with non asian girls.

 

[LordPhoque]

So I met a girl at a party almost 3 weeks ago. I've already met her at other events and we had some nice chats. This time she came to me and said "Hi [name] !" with a big smile, then we talked for an hour. It was flirty sometimes and she was showed many signs of interests.
I had to go very early because I was working on the next day, when I said so she said "we were probably going to see each other again" and seemed to want me to take her phone number, but I asked for her FB instead for some reason (I was in a hurry since I had my last train to take so I just asked how to find her on FB) I added her on the next day, then she immediately published on my wall "You found me ! Good luck at work and see you soon ! "
From here I thought it was better for us to talk by MP, I hate FB anyway, so my goal was to take her phone number quickly. We talked a little and she answered within the day each time. I said we should see each other after the exams (we're both students). I actually didn't ask directly but through a private joke concerning a bet and candies, but she was okay with it, saying "we'll probably settle this after the exams, yes". I was really dumb not to take her number at this point and I said myself and I'd wait for the end of the exams. So two days after they were over, I left a message on FB, giving her my number so she could text me. I sent this almost two days ago, I know she checked FB because I saw her liking stuff... so, did I fail somewhere ? Was interested in this girl fo a long time so it would suck if I did something wrong... for some reason it always happen to me : girl is interested, I'm not needy at all (actually maybe I'm too distant), her interest seem to disappear. Frustrating as hell. I'm not even flattered/motivated by girls showing interest anymore because I know that it may be different some days or weeks later for no reason at all.

 

[ZombieFred]

So I met a girl at a party almost 3 weeks ago. I've already met her at other events and we had some nice chats. This time she came to me and said "Hi [name] !" with a big smile, then we talked for an hour. It was flirty sometimes and she was showed many signs of interests.
I had to go very early because I was working on the next day, when I said so she said "we were probably going to see each other again" and seemed to want me to take her phone number, but I asked for her FB instead for some reason (I was in a hurry since I had my last train to take so I just asked how to find her on FB) I added her on the next day, then she immediately published on my wall "You found me ! Good luck at work and see you soon ! "
From here I thought it was better for us to talk by MP, I hate FB anyway, so my goal was to take her phone number quickly. We talked a little and she answered within the day each time. I said we should see each other after the exams (we're both students). I actually didn't ask directly but through a private joke concerning a bet and candies, but she was okay with it, saying "we'll probably settle this after the exams, yes". I was really dumb not to take her number at this point and I said myself and I'd wait for the end of the exams. So two days after they were over, I left a message on FB, giving her my number so she could text me. I sent this almost two days ago, I know she checked FB because I saw her liking stuff... so, did I fail somewhere ? Was interested in this girl fo a long time so it would suck if I did something wrong... for some reason it always happen to me : girl is interested, I'm not needy at all (actually maybe I'm too distant), her interest seem to disappear. Frustrating as hell.

Give it a few more days man and just take it easy. Relax and be yourself and don't try to over think on this. You've acted ok so there shouldn't be no problems so all that is left is from her to respond and if no luck then there's plenty of other encounters for you

 

[LordPhoque]

Give it a few more days man and just take it easy. Relax and be yourself and don't try to over think on this. You've acted ok so there shouldn't be no problems so all that is left is from her to respond and if no luck then there's plenty of other encounters for you

I edited my post about why I find it frustrating. I usually force myself not to text/send messages to girl so I don't seem needy, but usually the effect is pretty much the contrary as girls tend to... forget about me. Maybe I'm overthinking this in this case (it doesn't always happen) but it's still a legit question.

 

[shinshoryuken]

So I met a girl at a party almost 3 weeks ago. I've already met her at other events and we had some nice chats. This time she came to me and said "Hi [name] !" with a big smile, then we talked for an hour. It was flirty sometimes and she was showed many signs of interests.
I had to go very early because I was working on the next day, when I said so she said "we were probably going to see each other again" and seemed to want me to take her phone number, but I asked for her FB instead for some reason (I was in a hurry since I had my last train to take so I just asked how to find her on FB) I added her on the next day, then she immediately published on my wall "You found me ! Good luck at work and see you soon ! "
From here I thought it was better for us to talk by MP, I hate FB anyway, so my goal was to take her phone number quickly. We talked a little and she answered within the day each time. I said we should see each other after the exams (we're both students). I actually didn't ask directly but through a private joke concerning a bet and candies, but she was okay with it, saying "we'll probably settle this after the exams, yes". I was really dumb not to take her number at this point and I said myself and I'd wait for the end of the exams. So two days after they were over, I left a message on FB, giving her my number so she could text me. I sent this almost two days ago, I know she checked FB because I saw her liking stuff... so, did I fail somewhere ? Was interested in this girl fo a long time so it would suck if I did something wrong... for some reason it always happen to me : girl is interested, I'm not needy at all (actually maybe I'm too distant), her interest seem to disappear. Frustrating as hell. I'm not even flattered/motivated by girls showing interest anymore because I know that it may be different some days or weeks later for no reason at all.

You need to play it cool. Her interest level is more than 50%(which is good) . Now you need to make that interest level go up!. DO NOT EVER show desperation, you need to show her that you had a life before you met her. Meeting her was ain't no thang... you're life was good even before you met her.

and c'mon...facebook??? if you are talking to her on facebook, make it brief and to the point!! NEVER have a conversation with her on facebook or chat or even on the phone. Use facebook/chat/ on the phone to set up a date, thats it! Save the conversation when you are face to face!! if you waste your time chatting up with her on facebook, what will you talk about when you actually go on a date??? the goal is to have that magic moment again, face to face.

 

[LordPhoque]

We only exchanged 2 messages each. Then I sent the one with my phone number two weeks later. I totally agree with you about using phone/FB to set up dates only, all of our messages were about that, except I put the exams barrier from the beginning (which is true for both of us) Basically, we exchanged two messages two days after I added her (one message/answer per day), then nothing during two weeks. She was always liking my status and all though, even though she's not active at all on FB (never seen her commenting/liking other people stuff)

 

[SpectreFire]

Hi Dating-GAF,

I didn't read the whole tread but the first post, but I would like to give out advice to anyone who's wants to start dating asian girl.

I don't want to call myself an expert, but so far I've been lucky enough to only date hot asian girl and succeed. I had interviewed countless of girl and also read countless of dating book(which some are crap) so I got the experience. I was even going to make my own youtube channel, but I'm lazy. So if anyone wants some dating advice on asian girls, feel free to ask for advice....I'm just here to help, nothing else........because with great powers, comes great responsibility..any I'm willing to share.

Some will only date Asian. BUT a few prefer will date interracial.

The reason is that, to them they believe that a mix baby will end up being beautiful. They want that hapa(mix asian) baby. Its their fertilization instinct.

Parents wise, majority of Chinese/Japanese/Korean parent would want to stick with there own race.

but the 2nd tier asian(vietnamese/pinay) will be fine with interracial dating and with higher tier asian.

To be honest, Asian guys are like almost the bottom of the barrel interns of looks to women(all race), that's why you see very few asian guys with non asian girls.

My bullshit, yellow fever and racism alarm are all flipping the fuck out.

Let's not degrade this thread to this sort of crap.

 

[Kipe]

.

 

[shinshoryuken]

My bullshit and yellow fever alarm are both flipping the fuck out.

Let's not degrade this thread to this sort of crap.

if its crap to you its fine, like I said, I'm just here to help. If someone wants some insights, I'm here to give advice, but its their choice, if they want to implement it. Not trying to harm the thread at all...I had ALOT of luck with women, I just want to share..

 

[SpectreFire]

if its crap to you its fine, like I said, I'm just here to help. If someone wants some insights, I'm here to give advice, but its their choice, if they want to implement it. Not trying to harm the thread at all...I had ALOT of luck with women, I just want to share..

 

[shinshoryuken]

That's not nice, man. Edit please, and I will as well.

edit: lol. Well I tried to be helpful.

I'm just being as honest as possible, I do consider my self 2nd tier Asian...but I will edit it.

 

[LordPhoque]

Ok, she texted me, inviting to the museum. Feels good man. But I'm still maintaning my comments about being forgotten by girls.

 

[shinshoryuken]

We only exchanged 2 messages each. Then I sent the one with my phone number two weeks later. I totally agree with you about using phone/FB to set up dates only, all of our messages were about that, except I put the exams barrier from the beginning (which is true for both of us) Basically, we exchanged two messages two days after I added her (one message/answer per day), then nothing during two weeks. She was always liking my status and all though, even though she's not active at all on FB (never seen her commenting/liking other people stuff)

Well then...just focus on A'cing that exam, thats more things for her to like. Show her that you are focused and motivated, she knows already that you need to prepare for the exam. Not talking will just make you more intriguing. Her interest level is more than 50%, you cannot make it lower if you don't talk to her and be mysterious. But you can actually make it lower with you chatting it up with her.

Ok, she texted me, inviting to the museum. Feels good man. But I'm still maintaning my comments about being forgotten by girls.

awesome, and when you're with her face to face show her the 3 C's...confidence, control(self control), and being the challenge.......

 

[TheVampire]

Has anyone got any helpfull tips about asking out people at work?

My kinda I.T job has me going out to about 5 different offices in the city. A differernt one each day of the week so its not like it would be terrible and awkward if I was rejected.

There are lots of hot girls but my relationship with everybody is pretty much: 'oh hey its that I.T guy who comes around here every so often'

 

[ZombieFred]

Has anyone got any helpfull tips about asking out people at work?

My kinda I.T job has me going out to about 5 different offices in the city. A differernt one each day of the week so its not like it would be terrible and awkward if I was rejected.

There are lots of hot girls but my relationship with everybody is pretty much: 'oh hey its that I.T guy who comes around here every so often'

Just make friendly covnersation and find more about them to see if they are single or interested if they seem fond of you. Doesn't hurt to ask and most times they'll be flatterd that you asked. (I work in IT at a school so you can take my word from this field)

Ok, she texted me, inviting to the museum. Feels good man. But I'm still maintaning my comments about being forgotten by girls.

Be relaxed around her and act confident (but not cocky) and try to crack a few good jokes to make her laugh. You'll do good my son.

 

[shinshoryuken]

Has anyone got any helpfull tips about asking out people at work?

My kinda I.T job has me going out to about 5 different offices in the city. A differernt one each day of the week so its not like it would be terrible and awkward if I was rejected.

There are lots of hot girls but my relationship with everybody is pretty much: 'oh hey its that I.T guy who comes around here every so often'

Be charismatic, when you greet people try to remember their names and greet them like you know them.

that way, when you interact with a Hot girl, it would be easy to be friendly with her...because you're cool with everyone else.

Then start gauging her interest level...

My favorite is the name introduction...


NEVER ask for her name..always introduce yourself.
"hi, my name is ____" thats it, don't ask for her name.
If she's even slightly interested...she will tell you her name.
If she doesn't tell you her name, that's a bad sign.......move on....

 

[Minamu]

I don't like putting the ball in somebody else's court that early. I'd rather be the one in charge of making the move and making contact, not waiting and hoping somebody else (let alone somebody that probably gets hit on 100 times an hour) makes contact.

Seems to me like you're too attached to the outcome of the conversations then. And why wait and hope for them to call you? You've got a life to live, right? It's not like having x women in your life will make it any better. You could still "make the move" and approach them, but still have them chase you. The only reason this wouldn't work is because you think it won't, because it's too much of a risk But there is no risk, only a chance at a more relaxed and carefree life, which is a win/win situation for everyone.