Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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gonna ask a girl to a concert. gonna be at least 8 other ppl goin with us. pregamin before hand, all that shit. anyways, how should i ask her? i want to just text her but that seems lame. do i call her? crown of sonnets? potted plant?
 
Anyone have a baby face? How do you deal with it. I have heard some girls find it cute or some shit, but in my experience girls want an older (looking) dude. I have had people even say that they thought I was 17! They don't realize it but it's pretty insulting. I like to think that it will benefit me when I am 35 to stay positive. But it doesn't help with the present.

I don't wear loose clothes, and I don't act like a punk ass kid. I am not a small guy. Average height (5' 11") with muscles, not fat. I have heard that short hair helps and my hair is getting a little scruffy. Getting a hair cut tomorrow. Oh and I act confident and maintain eye contact and all that shit.

I look 16.

Then again, I'm 18, so.
 
Anyone have a baby face? How do you deal with it. I have heard some girls find it cute or some shit, but in my experience girls want an older (looking) dude. I have had people even say that they thought I was 17! They don't realize it but it's pretty insulting. I like to think that it will benefit me when I am 35 to stay positive. But it doesn't help with the present.

I don't wear loose clothes, and I don't act like a punk ass kid. I am not a small guy. Average height (5' 11") with muscles, not fat. I have heard that short hair helps and my hair is getting a little scruffy. Getting a hair cut tomorrow. Oh and I act confident and maintain eye contact and all that shit.

also i would like to say that it's worse if people actually know how old you are, no matter how you act. i struggle with respect from older people, and it's fucking annoying.

trivial example: playing pickup, im youngest guy there by probably 15 years (20, 21 in 1 month 15 days). i am ready to play, so i say "hey lets shoot'em up" and i know everyone can hear me and they just ignore me. my dad will say it, not 10 seconds later, and everyone is on the line so fast. its annoying but i just deal with it and kick their ass all over the court.

and yeah cut your fucking hair ,hippie
 
question for this thread because my IRC bros are shittin their pants

gonna ask a girl to a concert. gonna be at least 8 other ppl goin with us. pregamin before hand, all that shit. anyways, how should i ask her? i want to just text her but that seems lame. do i call her? crown of sonnets?

"Me and some friends are going to a concert. Wanted to know if you want to come along"

All you have to say.

She says yes, cool, great, you go and have a good time. She says no, cool, great, you go and have a good time.
 
People complaining about looking young. Now I've seen it all. What's next? "My abs are too chiseled GAF and I got a 10 pack which is more than I wanted...help me!"
 
Hair shorter, definitely. Can't grow competent facial hair though. My eyes are my best feature I feel, but if it helps I'll try that.

Well if you're eyes are your best feature then don't cover them up with sunglasses more than you need to. If you do happen to be wearing them and you do happen to approach someone, make sure to take them off so that they can see your eyes (plus people tend to think it rude if you are wearing sunglasses while in conversation, particularly if you don't really know them).

Well I used to not be able to grow much either, but I just kept letting it grow and shaving, letting it grow and shaving, letting it grow and shaving. I don't know how much water the "shaving makes your hair grow back thicker/better/etc" idea is, I don't really know the science behind it, but that's pretty much what I did. Now I still let it grow, but I trim it and sculpt it to how I want.

I definitely look a lot younger whenever I shave it completely, so I tend not to very often.
 
I just mean with girls my age (22).

Even at my current age it's an advantage? Or do you mean later on in life.

(Long ass post written, hit the wrong button, and I'm not typing that shit out again. Here's what's important anyway.)

I'm younger than you, so I can't judge for later in life. Having a baby face is never a disadvantage. If you aren't getting respect or you are getting "awww you're too young for me". All that is remedied with body language, confidence, and tonality.
 
Is it wrong when I usually meet a girl my first thought isn't to try to rope her off. I honest to god find that the best way to get a woman's interest is to be your spontaneous self and just act like they're one of your friends. I'm happily taken right now, but it honest to god isn't hard.

Yes that is me in my profile picture. I keep that smile on and it does wonders. Girls/guys want to get noticed by each other. The key is to not make it so awkward.
 
Is it wrong when I usually meet a girl my first thought isn't to try to rope her off. I honest to god find that the best way to get a woman's interest is to be your spontaneous self and just act like they're one of your friends. I'm happily taken right now, but it honest to god isn't hard.

Yes that is me in my profile picture. I keep that smile on and it does wonders. Girls/guys want to get noticed by each other. The key is to not make it so awkward.

Sounds like a good way to get friendzoned.
 
Is it wrong when I usually meet a girl my first thought isn't to try to rope her off. I honest to god find that the best way to get a woman's interest is to be your spontaneous self and just act like they're one of your friends. I'm happily taken right now, but it honest to god isn't hard.

Yes that is me in my profile picture. I keep that smile on and it does wonders. Girls/guys want to get noticed by each other. The key is to not make it so awkward.

Sure if you want to BE their friend.

Edit: Beaten
 
The way I look at it is girls are used to guys approaching them in shitty ways. If you can carry on a good conversation with a girl you just met, you likely have some chemistry. Unless GAFers in this thread are just looking for one night stands, that's important less you want a 1-3 month relationship.

If you get friendzoned imho you never had that chemistry in the first place. Move on. There are plenty of beautiful women out there in the world to focus on a failed bridge.
 
You care to elaborate on this?

Sure. I had one of my female friends post on facebook the following today:

Why must people hit on me when i'm just trying to buy covered parking?
*waiting to talk to leasing people*
HIM:"Paying rent?"
ME: "No I'm buying covered parking"
HIM: "Oh how many cars do you have?"
ME: "Two"
HIM: "So does your boyfriend drive your other car?"
ME: "no, its mine"
HIM: "oh, well i just thought a beautiful girl like yourself would live with her boyfriend"
ME: -______________- ...NO!

Terrible, terrible move.
 
That doesn't exactly sound that awful to me.

There is a time and place to pick up a chick. Picking up at a leasing office is kind of creepy as fuck in that context. You can't just fire off. You have to pick up on subtle expressions in the girl. Like the way she holds herself when she is engaged with you. I'm not saying I am an expert, but understanding how she "holds herself" is almost as important as the conversation. Basically, they guy did 0 to make any connection with her.

lol ok fair enough. I just met a lot of people who think going up to a random girl and flirting with them is some horrible thing you should never do.

I guess if you shoot a target 100 times, you will eventually strike home. Seems like a terrible way to do it though.
 
I'm just saying, I wouldn't go on facebook and go "woe is me" because somebody hit on me. Is it corny and a bit inappropriate? Yeah, but it's not really that awful.
 
I'm just saying, I wouldn't go on facebook and go "woe is me" because somebody hit on me. Is it corny and a bit inappropriate? Yeah, but it's not really that awful.

It's posted as a "compliment" to the girl sort of. But in not a good way for the guy who gave it to her. Does that make sense?

aka "Hey this guy totally gushed over me. Isn't that gross, right?!"
 
I think it's a bit mean-spirited. If a girl made a pass at me, even if it was a bit odd or inappropriate, I wouldn't go running to facebook to brag about it whilst mocking them in the process, even if it was some random chick that none of my friends knew.
 
There is a time and place to pick up a chick. Picking up at a leasing office is kind of creepy as fuck in that context. You can't just fire off. You have to pick up on subtle expressions in the girl. Like the way she holds herself when she is engaged with you. I'm not saying I am an expert, but understanding how she "holds herself" is almost as important as the conversation. Basically, they guy did 0 to make any connection with her.

Agree and disagree. So say a girl you think is pretty walks past you. She's your perfect 10 and all that stuff. She's looking down at her cellphone not paying attention to her surroundings so she doesn't notice you. Would you approach her? I mean y'all aren't engaged in a conversation, there aren't any subtle expressions. There is literally no way she can "hold herself". It's simply a cold approach. Would you do it?
 
Agree and disagree. So say a girl you think is pretty walks past you. She's your perfect 10 and all that stuff. She's looking down at her cellphone not paying attention to her surroundings so she doesn't notice you. Would you approach her? I mean y'all aren't engaged in a conversation, there aren't any subtle expressions. There is literally no way she can "hold herself". It's simply a cold approach. Would you do it?

That's a tough one. See the issue is that this shit doesn't happen like it does in the movies. I need more "context" in this theoretical situation. Are we at a bus stop? Are we stuck at the DMV?

Personally I wait to see if I can get her to glance over at me. If she's too absorbed by her phone, fuck it. I am not going to compete with a cell phone lol.

Anyways, once I "catch" her glancing I would smile at her but not really say something. To me the "obvious" thing would then be to say something. Knowing myself

1) I would bumble like an idiot because I haven't made that "connection" yet
2) She is expecting that. (important)

Now I wait for a little time to pass. Perhaps see if she gets bored with her phone. Now I say something innocuous like, "Man it's a hot one outside"

This is where I know whether I have her attention or not. There are again two possibilities here:

1) She perks up and responds with something and maintains a level of eye contact with me. If she does, I am already halfway there.
2) She mumbles something and goes back to her phone. If that's the case, never had the spark in the first place so fuck it.

Assuming 1 happens, I then reference something about our current situation (ie how much is sucks waiting at the DMV). Again, something incredibly innocent. With the ice broken, I then talk to her about why she decided lunch was a great time to get her liscense renewed, maybe find out what she does for a living, ect.

If this goes well, and I notice in her body language that she is clearly attentive to me, I mention we should go out to coffee sometime when her or my number gets called. If I don't get that connection with her, why bother? Why chase someone who won't give you her full attention?

Of course, this isn't perfect by any means. How I would approach a situation like that anyways.
 
That's a tough one. See the issue is that this shit doesn't happen like it does in the movies. I need more "context" in this theoretical situation. Are we at a bus stop? Are we stuck at the DMV?

Personally I wait to see if I can get her to glance over at me. If she's too absorbed by her phone, fuck it. I am not going to compete with a cell phone lol.

Anyways, once I "catch" her glancing I would smile at her but not really say something. To me the "obvious" thing would then be to say something. Knowing myself

1) I would bumble like an idiot because I haven't made that "connection" yet
2) She is expecting that. (important)

Now I wait for a little time to pass. Perhaps see if she gets bored with her phone. Now I say something innocuous like, "Man it's a hot one outside"

This is where I know whether I have her attention or not. There are again two possibilities here:

1) She perks up and responds with something and maintains a level of eye contact with me. If she does, I am already halfway there.
2) She mumbles something and goes back to her phone. If that's the case, never had the spark in the first place so fuck it.

Assuming 1 happens, I then reference something about our current situation (ie how much is sucks waiting at the DMV). Again, something incredibly innocent. With the ice broken, I then talk to her about why she decided lunch was a great time to get her liscense renewed, maybe find out what she does for a living, ect.

If this goes well, and I notice in her body language that she is clearly attentive to me, I mention we should go out to coffee sometime when her or my number gets called. If I don't get that connection with her, why bother? Why chase someone who won't give you her full attention?

Of course, this isn't perfect by any means. How I would approach a situation like that anyways.

Literally everything you said isn't even necessary. But if that's your approach then that's your approach. Also for the hell of it, you aren't stuck at the DMV you're on a College campus.
 
Yes, it is.

You said you were ugly. You look like some kind of fucking male model! You have a real hard jaw-line and awesome eyes. You gotta be kidding me. From what you said...is there something I'm missing or something, because I don't see it at all. The only thing I don't like is maybe your hairstyle, but that is just taste I guess.
 
You said you were ugly. You look like some kind of fucking male model! You have a real hard jaw-line and awesome eyes. You gotta be kidding me. From what you said...is there something I'm missing or something, because I don't see it at all. The only thing I don't like is maybe your hairstyle, but that is just taste I guess.

Well for one thing I'm not taking a picture in a dark room so I'm bound to look alright. I've dealt with rejection and people calling me ugly before so take from it what you will. If you got better ideas for my hair I'm always willing to take suggestions.
 
Literally everything you said isn't even necessary. But if that's your approach then that's your approach. Also for the hell of it, you aren't stuck at the DMV you're on a College campus.

I pull off my shirt, and invite her to my gun show.





On a more serious note, I still don't have context on this situation. Is it just a normal day on the quad with people sitting on blankets or playing Frisbee? Am I in the library minding my own business studying when she walks in. If it's -40 outside I don't even fucking bother. There's very little to no chance I pick up a girl walking texting on her phone. To me the "timing of the environment" is also just as important.

For the library example, if it's a Friday at 6pm and it's just me and her I study for a while and wait for that inevitable glance. I basically follow the same approach. I would call out something along the lines of,

"I thought I was the only one insane enough to study on a Friday evening". Then I wait for her physical and verbal response. If she laughs and agrees, great I am halfway there. If she gives a menacing look and snaps back to her book, fuck it it's not worth it. I would then ask her what she could possibly be studying, find out about her major, what year she is, what she was planning on doing once she was out of here ect.
 
This is bullshit man, I thought I at least had someone else here that was ugly, but nope, I am alone now...fuck.
Hey I'm ugly too man
Also no one likes a self pity-er. Buck up young blood


And midnights, I'm browsing wiu avatars turned off so I thought you still had your last one when you said that haha
 
Well for one thing I'm not taking a picture in a dark room so I'm bound to loo kalright. I've dealt with rejection and people calling me ugly before so take from it what you will. If you got better ideas for my hair I'm always willing to take suggestions.
Are we allowed to take potshots at others? cause lol

but I digress you're not ugly, whatever women you're trying to swoon have bad taste.
 
Well for one thing I'm not taking a picture in a dark room so I'm bound to loo kalright. I've dealt with rejection and people calling me ugly before so take from it what you will. If you got better ideas for my hair I'm always willing to take suggestions.

You aren't ugly at all, in fact your good looking. I'm guessing whoever has said this to you has done it out of jealousy, because I don't see it at all.

As for the hair, I say buzz the whole thing then let it grow and style it. I'm not a fan of the poof in your current hair.

....well, I suppose I must represent the uggos alone. V_V
 
Well for one thing I'm not taking a picture in a dark room so I'm bound to look alright. I've dealt with rejection and people calling me ugly before so take from it what you will. If you got better ideas for my hair I'm always willing to take suggestions.

I would hope you wouldn't take the opinions of the minority as fact.

Edit: I am suppose to be working on a test plan for work. Dammit GAF. :)
 
I would hope you wouldn't take the opinions of the minority as fact.

I bet it was some bully or asshole that was jealous.

I TOLD YOU ALL, if somebody is really ugly, they usually don't know because people don't say that shit face to face; where in you get situations like this where some asshat called midnights ugly and he turns out to have a steel jaw and whatnot.
 
You aren't ugly at all, in fact your good looking. I'm guessing whoever has said this to you has done it out of jealousy, because I don't see it at all.

As for the hair, I say buzz the whole thing then let it grow and style it. I'm not a fan of the poof in your current hair.

....well, I suppose I must represent the uggos alone. V_V

Haha short hair doesn't suit me. I have a big head so I need big hair to balance it out. Also, there will be plenty of time to buzz and do short styles when my baldness begins.

I bet it was some bully or asshole that was jealous.

I TOLD YOU ALL, if somebody is really ugly, they usually don't know because people don't say that shit face to face; where in you get situations like this where some asshat called midnights ugly and he turns out to have a steel jaw and whatnot.

Either way man, I'm still in the same boat as you when it comes to getting girls so I guess looks aren't everything
 
I bet it was some bully or asshole that was jealous.

I TOLD YOU ALL, if somebody is really ugly, they usually don't know because people don't say that shit face to face; where in you get situations like this where some asshat called midnights ugly and he turns out to have a steel jaw and whatnot.
Maybe you should try guys, you seem to pay a lot of Attention to the good looking ones
 
I bet it was some bully or asshole that was jealous.

I TOLD YOU ALL, if somebody is really ugly, they usually don't know because people don't say that shit face to face; where in you get situations like this where some asshat called midnights ugly and he turns out to have a steel jaw and whatnot.


Well it's not necessarily even jealousy. We are all attracted to different things. Not every girl or guy necessarily wants the same thing. So just because someone tells you you're ugly just means you don't fit their image. Big fucking deal. Billions of other girls/guys with different images that fit you just fine.

Personally I think you look great. Not into guys though, sorry. :)
 
You aren't ugly at all, in fact your good looking. I'm guessing whoever has said this to you has done it out of jealousy, because I don't see it at all.

As for the hair, I say buzz the whole thing then let it grow and style it. I'm not a fan of the poof in your current hair.

....well, I suppose I must represent the uggos alone. V_V

You're not ugly. Why do you want to convince us otherwise?
 
I bet it was some bully or asshole that was jealous.

I TOLD YOU ALL, if somebody is really ugly, they usually don't know because people don't say that shit face to face; where in you get situations like this where some asshat called midnights ugly and he turns out to have a steel jaw and whatnot.

.........
 
It's not working anymore Midnights, I know you're not unattractive. Give it up!

I'm not sure why you were rejected, but I'm guessing you either were unlucky or you had some bad clothing on or something, I don't know man, but looks aren't the culprit for you.
 
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