Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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There's a difference when it comes to talking to someone about it in person who knows their stuff than people here :P

Well I've decided to book an apointment. I decided that having the experience and knowledge of going there and seeing how it works would be a great help and understanding on myself for the future and also being able to use that to help others on areas I would have never thought before. I am not depressed or anything but if I want to have a very effective relationship for the future and feel very content with myself after the ordeal of my ex fiance then this will go a long way. Should be interesting when I'll have my first session (only doing 2-3) in five hours.

I went to hypnotherapy once for anxiety that sort of related to specific social situations. It's that gambling aspect. If it doesn't work (I was skeptical) then its a total waste of money, there's so much you can do with that money that's more useful, but if it does work then it's probably the best £200 you'll spend. In my case I think it was a bit of both and ultimately it was a fun experience, so it didn't feel a waste in the end. I hope you get something from it, good luck.
 
Don't fuck her and build the suspense.

Yeah that'll drive her even insane wanting you. Don't do it and tease her for "next time" and avoid all temptation until she is exploding.


I went to hypnotherapy once for anxiety that sort of related to specific social situations. It's that gambling aspect. If it doesn't work (I was skeptical) then its a total waste of money, there's so much you can do with that money that's more useful, but if it does work then it's probably the best £200 you'll spend. In my case I think it was a bit of both and ultimately it was a fun experience, so it didn't feel a waste in the end. I hope you get something from it, good luck.


Well I just got back and I only needed the one session to find out what's up with me.

I am just a bit fearful of the future due to being alone, the first time in my life to ever be, living by myself without anyone not telling me what to do, having this unlimited freedom.
Having all these fun mishaps and so fourth has been a way of me not trying to feel alone much and since this is a whole new part of me in my life i've never had and now having to adjust that with the rest of my other fragments of myself. Only needed to spend 40 quid for it. Now I've got to just adapt more.
 
Only problem with that is I did that two years ago and well, it didn't really work lol. Never got another chance until now.

So you have already had sex with this person? If so who cares, you should though communicate with her or figure out the kinds of things she likes to have done to her in bed.
 
No, I went out with her, fooled around with her but didn't fuck her and she lost all interest in me lol. Any other advice in terms of how to blow her away in bed, i'm usually pretty confident when it comes to it but i've usually been with the more quiet, shy girls and this girl is the complete opposite from what I'm used to.
 
No, I went out with her, fooled around with her but didn't fuck her and she lost all interest in me lol. Any other advice in terms of how to blow her away in bed, i'm usually pretty confident when it comes to it but i've usually been with the more quiet, shy girls and this girl is the complete opposite from what I'm used to.

Then do the opposite lol
Go oral first then intercourse and tease her occasionally by slowing down or going back to oral a little bit, don't try too many positions the first time (more than 3) unless she asks you.
 
GF is going to a concert on Friday with one of her really slutty friends. The slutty one is bringing two of her guy friends, one of which she's fucking. They have hotel rooms so they can go there after. GF said they got a room for the guys and room for them. GF been in a bit of a rush lately to get all dressed up, put shopping, getting some dress altered. I trust her but can't help but have my mind wonder in not so good places.

I never thought I was the jelous type but goddam I don't like this feeling regardless.
 
umm... no. Here's a few reasons why.

1) setting up a first date is very nerve wrecking and that can carry over in your voice. With text, you can plan and think about what you are going to say.

2) IF she doesn't pick up you have to leave a voicemail... or maybe you lose your nerve and hang up. Now what? Do you want her to come back to her phone and see many missed calls? Screams stalker. You will agonize whether she even heard your voicemail. With text, you can be sure that she will see it whenever she is free.

3) some people see phonecalls a next step over texting and they are just not comfortable with it before you even meet a person.

We are not talking about chatting on text. We are just talking about setting something up.

*Paging ClovingWestbrook!!*

Calling is better for 3 reasons too:

1. It makes you look confident, since you are not afraid to hide behind a text.

2. You can judge the girls interest level in her voice. Text is impossible to gauge any kind of tone in a persons attitude.

3. It's the adult thing to do.

And if you don't reach her the first time, you chill out. You don't call 40 times. So no, there's no crazy stalker approach just because you call. That's only if you call a million times like an idiot.
 
No, I went out with her, fooled around with her but didn't fuck her and she lost all interest in me lol. Any other advice in terms of how to blow her away in bed, i'm usually pretty confident when it comes to it but i've usually been with the more quiet, shy girls and this girl is the complete opposite from what I'm used to.

I don't know man that's very little to go on just fucking be hellua into it (needless to say) and passionate, take your time. Treat her like she's the last women on earth and this is going to be the last time you ever have sex.

GF is going to a concert on Friday with one of her really slutty friends. The slutty one is bringing two of her guy friends, one of which she's fucking. They have hotel rooms so they can go there after. GF said they got a room for the guys and room for them. GF been in a bit of a rush lately to get all dressed up, put shopping, getting some dress altered. I trust her but can't help but have my mind wonder in not so good places.

I never thought I was the jelous type but goddam I don't like this feeling regardless.


May I ask your age?
 
*Paging ClovingWestbrook!!*

Calling is better for 3 reasons too:

1. It makes you look confident, since you are not afraid to hide behind a text.

2. You can judge the girls interest level in her voice. Text is impossible to gauge any kind of tone in a persons attitude.

3. It's the adult thing to do.

And if you don't reach her the first time, you chill out. You don't call 40 times. So no, there's no crazy stalker approach just because you call. That's only if you call a million times like an idiot.
Whatever man. Going to have to agree to disagree. What's the point of gauging interest level if you're texting to set something up? If she says yes then she's interested enough to meet you. Then you can charm them all you want in person.

And to some women, even having 2 or more missed calls look like a crazy stalker.

Note: I'm talking about strictly online dating as that's whom my post was for. If you acquired a number in person, then sure, call. You've already establish contact in person. But I disagree with the notion that you HAVE to call in any circumstances.

And dude, adult thing? I'm 30 and texting is pretty much accepted. I have never been rejected just because I texted plans.

EDIT: I should clarify something. I am NOT saying never call. There is a time and place for everything.
 
Dear Cthulhu, man, that's not how you do things. Go on the date. Have a good time. If she's having a good time too, kiss her or whatever else explicitly physical and setting the tone for romantic involvement. See how it plays out.

Leave the confessions and will you be my girlfriends for the 5th grade playground or feudal melodrama.

I understand what you're saying. If I'm so confident she likes me, I should have no problem just going for the kiss at the right moment. I'm just not sure whether that sort of approach is suitable from going from a friendship into a relationship.

Well I guess it depends what you want from this relationship, and where you would like it to go.

If you have both spoke about it in the past, then in this instance I think being honest about your true feelings is the best policy. Your friend may very well be happy with the situation as it stands.

I'm certain I only want her as more than a friend, there might be a chance that she is happy with the way things are. But she always tells me how much she likes me, and I like her, so I'm willing to risk the friendship.

So you were friends, and now? This is going to be your first date? Did you sleep with her?

Well we haven't done anything sexual. We've been on dates before, that was a year ago, through the entire time I haven't seen her she's just been telling me how much she likes me.

I would STILL say take your damn time. The beginning stages of dating are a magical process. Okay not magical, but fun as fuck. Take your time and enjoy it, let it happen naturally.

You're lucky enough that you should be able to enjoy it without worrying about rejection, so you get all the slow exciting buildup without any of that worrying about how she feels.

Throwing around confessions and labels just adds unnecessary melodrama.

What is the fun about dating if we both already know everything about each other. I want to hang out with her not as a friend, but a boyfriend. If we keep having days out, it won't go anywhere.
 
Oh Dating-GAF I'm gonna regret posting this story but I gotta do it.

So, a friend and I are out at a shop buying some clothes and I make eye contact with one of the girls working there and she pretty much ignores all the other customers and comes up to me and compliments me on my shirt and just starts talking to me. I couldn't believe, it this girl was like at least 8/10 and I'm usually the customer that gets ignored by girls like her. Eventually we start talking and it turns out we had a ton in common and I was doing all the things you guys tell people to do like keep eye contact, smile, just be cool. I made a joke that I thought was barely funny and she couldn't stop laughing. It was like for the first time I was doing everything right and she's basically giving me multiple chances to ask for her number, practically setting up with her questions. At this point it hits me that all I have to do is ask and she would say yes but I couldn't do it. I just froze. All those others times I asked girls for their numbers I knew beforehand from their body language and responses that they were pretty much sure to say no. I guess that made it easy but I wasn't actually ready for someone to say yes.

As we leave my friend says "you know that girl was all over you right? what's wrong with you?".

The good news is I seem to be getting better at all this stuff but I just couldn't close it out this time. Maybe next time.

Happens to the best of us dude. You did everything right expect one thing...YOU THOUGHT ABOUT!!!!!
 
I understand what you're saying. If I'm so confident she likes me, I should have no problem just going for the kiss at the right moment. I'm just not sure whether that sort of approach is suitable from going from a friendship into a relationship.



I'm certain I only want her as more than a friend, there might be a chance that she is happy with the way things are. But she always tells me how much she likes me, and I like her, so I'm willing to risk the friendship.



Well we haven't done anything sexual. We've been on dates before, that was a year ago, through the entire time I haven't seen her she's just been telling me how much she likes me.



What is the fun about dating if we both already know everything about each other. I want to hang out with her not as a friend, but a boyfriend. If we keep having days out, it won't go anywhere.

Trust me just go in for the kiss. From your description everything else is all the table. Except for...
 
I understand what you're saying. If I'm so confident she likes me, I should have no problem just going for the kiss at the right moment. I'm just not sure whether that sort of approach is suitable from going from a friendship into a relationship.



I'm certain I only want her as more than a friend, there might be a chance that she is happy with the way things are. But she always tells me how much she likes me, and I like her, so I'm willing to risk the friendship.



Well we haven't done anything sexual. We've been on dates before, that was a year ago, through the entire time I haven't seen her she's just been telling me how much she likes me.



What is the fun about dating if we both already know everything about each other. I want to hang out with her not as a friend, but a boyfriend. If we keep having days out, it won't go anywhere.
Tough call dude, but I would not "confess" anything. You need to open up the opportunity for her to confess to you. (even if she already has).

Its just one of those things...Doesn't make sense.
 
I don't know man that's very little to go on just fucking be hellua into it (needless to say) and passionate, take your time. Treat her like she's the last women on earth and this is going to be the last time you ever have sex.

Yeah I guess you're right, I should have no problems I hope. One thing i'm a bit worried about is that it's been 2 months since I last had sex, hoping I'll won't finish too quickly seeing as i'm pretty horny at this point lol.
 
No, I went out with her, fooled around with her but didn't fuck her and she lost all interest in me lol. Any other advice in terms of how to blow her away in bed, i'm usually pretty confident when it comes to it but i've usually been with the more quiet, shy girls and this girl is the complete opposite from what I'm used to.

You might want to be yourself if you want an actual relationship with this girl. It's best to find out simply if you are both compatible in that area.

With that said, tease the hell out of her during foreplay, go down on her, and be a bit rough in what you want. If she's a sex fiend the last thing you want to do is pump away without any flare. You have to distinguish yourself somehow.

Yeah I guess you're right, I should have no problems I hope. One thing i'm a bit worried about is that it's been 2 months since I last had sex, hoping I'll won't finish too quickly seeing as i'm pretty horny at this point lol.

Do the good ol "rub one out 2 hours before" trick.
 
personally, the texting vs. calling thing is irrelevant. both should be used only to plan a in person meet-up. i wouldn't use either for mindless trival conversations.
 
So i've got a bit of an issue that I could use some help with. This girl that I have known for 2 and a half years are pretty close and this last weekend things got very physical when we were very drunk. I fingered her and there was a lot of oral but we didn't go all the way because we were both pretty plastered and she said she was very tired.

Fast forward to two days ago and she tells me she really likes me and is thinking about getting more serious however here is the problem: She's a real sex freak, like she really loves sex (don't we all) and pretty much her whole life is based around how important sex is to her.

Now I know you're all thinking "whats the problem?" and I agree, it's pretty awesome that she's like this however she has told me that if the first time she fucks someone is not as great as she's expecting then it can kill of any interest in that guy for her. We're going to be going out this weekend and i'm pretty sure we'll find ourselves in this situation however I'm starting to feel the pressure a bit now lol. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Girls like that usually like a bit of choking or ass slapping. I usually go for the choke first since its easier to do in the missionary position (which is probably all you'll get to) and ass slapping can hurt your hand. Don't stop until she really wants you to. Usually until she can't breathe.

The other thing is to make sure you last a while. Which makes hitting it from behind a no-no since you'll prolly bust in 10 seconds (it happens to all of us). I usually go for a non lubricated/ultra ribbed condom cause the pain/insensitivity it causes will let you keep on going.

Finally, biting. Lips, neck, shoulders. They love it all. Scratch her so she knows you aren messing around. Nibble on the ear, just don't do it when she has an earing on and you're both shifting (again, shit happens). Good luck!
 
No, I went out with her, fooled around with her but didn't fuck her and she lost all interest in me lol. Any other advice in terms of how to blow her away in bed, i'm usually pretty confident when it comes to it but i've usually been with the more quiet, shy girls and this girl is the complete opposite from what I'm used to.

:lol
Don't even sweat it, man. Now, I'm not going to lie and claim I've been with a lot of self-proclaimed "Sex Freaks", but the few I have been with greatly exaggerated their freakiness, except for one. She was awesome, and God bless the guy who's banging her now. The others? I guess they were used to guys going full throttle for 10-20min, and passing out afterwards. :lol Good lays, but nothing I'd consider a Sex Freak.

Just make sure you please her, and be mindful of getting her off as much as possible. Don't worry about stuff like blowing your load too early because she'll fuck multiple times. In fact, busting your first nut sorta-early might be advisable here since your next couple nuts will take much longer. Just enjoy yourself.

Like I said, don't sweat it. I'd be surprised if she lives up to her Sex Freak label.


GF is going to a concert on Friday with one of her really slutty friends. The slutty one is bringing two of her guy friends, one of which she's fucking. They have hotel rooms so they can go there after. GF said they got a room for the guys and room for them. GF been in a bit of a rush lately to get all dressed up, put shopping, getting some dress altered. I trust her but can't help but have my mind wonder in not so good places.

I never thought I was the jelous type but goddam I don't like this feeling regardless.

YOu should be concerned. 2 guys & 2 gals going to a concert together and doing their own After-Party at a hotel definitely sounds like a hook-up situation to me. I mean, you really think her friend is not going to fuck her BF & stay in bed with him that night?

But this is where trust comes in. You have to trust her to do the right thing and not cheat on you. Tell her your concerns, and that's about all you can do. Let her initiate contact (call/text) with you that night.
 
I understand what you're saying. If I'm so confident she likes me, I should have no problem just going for the kiss at the right moment. I'm just not sure whether that sort of approach is suitable from going from a friendship into a relationship.



I'm certain I only want her as more than a friend, there might be a chance that she is happy with the way things are. But she always tells me how much she likes me, and I like her, so I'm willing to risk the friendship.



Well we haven't done anything sexual. We've been on dates before, that was a year ago, through the entire time I haven't seen her she's just been telling me how much she likes me.



What is the fun about dating if we both already know everything about each other. I want to hang out with her not as a friend, but a boyfriend. If we keep having days out, it won't go anywhere.

ASK HER IF SHE'LL BE YOUR GIRLFRIENDS
 
24, she's my first GF, been dating close to 6 months bow. I know i'm being stupid and I haven't said shit to her. Just feel a bit uncomfortable.

Don't sweat it. Also jealousy only makes you look like an asshole even if you are right. Have you felt like this at an other point in your relationship? PLus the fact that she let you know these other dudes were going is a pretty dead give away the nothing is going to happen.
 
GF is going to a concert on Friday with one of her really slutty friends. The slutty one is bringing two of her guy friends, one of which she's fucking. They have hotel rooms so they can go there after. GF said they got a room for the guys and room for them. GF been in a bit of a rush lately to get all dressed up, put shopping, getting some dress altered. I trust her but can't help but have my mind wonder in not so good places.

I never thought I was the jelous type but goddam I don't like this feeling regardless.

Wow, sounds like a hook up.
 
Stopped at a bar during my lunch break today to grab a quick drink. It's located near a theatre, so a lot of drama/theatre type girls hangout there during the afternoon. While there a girl walks up to me and tells me I look like Nathan Drake and how she loves that character. Long story short, it ended with me getting a quickie in my car.

Moral of this story: the half-tuck style is awesome.

Edit: Holy shit, guys, I didn't post that. I left my laptop open and went for my daily run. My roommate posted that shit to see the reactions it would receive. In classic GAF fashion this thread has delivered.
 
Stopped at a bar during my lunch break today to grab a quick drink. It's located near a theatre, so a lot of drama/theatre type girls hangout there during the afternoon. While there a girl walks up to me and tells me I look like Nathan Drake and how she loves that character. Long story short, it ended with me getting a quickie in my car.

Moral of this story: the half-tuck style is awesome.

wtf
 
24, she's my first GF, been dating close to 6 months bow. I know i'm being stupid and I haven't said shit to her. Just feel a bit uncomfortable.

I understand where you are coming from and she has told you about what's going on. Only thing you can do is trust her. If there are things that are on your mind, you can express your concerns but in the end, it is an element of trust.
 
Stopped at a bar during my lunch break today to grab a quick drink. It's located near a theatre, so a lot of drama/theatre type girls hangout there during the afternoon. While there a girl walks up to me and tells me I look like Nathan Drake and how she loves that character. Long story short, it ended with me getting a quickie in my car.

Moral of this story: the half-tuck style is awesome.

I love fantasy stories.
 
What the fuck.

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I understand where you are coming from and she has told you about what's going on. Only thing you can do is trust her. If there are things that are on your mind, you can express your concerns but in the end, it is an element of trust.

Dude, first thing out of my mouth would be "So cool, I can totally invite my friend and two chicks to a hotel room and you won't have a problem right?" lol
 
Stopped at a bar during my lunch break today to grab a quick drink. It's located near a theatre, so a lot of drama/theatre type girls hangout there during the afternoon. While there a girl walks up to me and tells me I look like Nathan Drake and how she loves that character. Long story short, it ended with me getting a quickie in my car.

Moral of this story: the half-tuck style is awesome.

At least make it realistic!
 
Stopped at a bar during my lunch break today to grab a quick drink. It's located near a theatre, so a lot of drama/theatre type girls hangout there during the afternoon. While there a girl walks up to me and tells me I look like Nathan Drake and how she loves that character. Long story short, it ended with me getting a quickie in my car.

Moral of this story: the half-tuck style is awesome.
Come on, man.
 
stopped by a synagogue during my tea break to grab some juice. it's located near a swimming pool, so a lot of athletic/jewish girls hangout there during the afternoon. while there a girl walks up to me and tells me i look like adolf hitler, and how much she loves his work. long story short, it ended with me giving her a shower

moral of the story: i fucking love juice.
 
Dude, first thing out of my mouth would be "So cool, I can totally invite my friend and two chicks to a hotel room and you won't have a problem right?" lol

So every take note of what not to do.

stopped by synagogue during my tea break to grab some juice. it's located near a swimming pool, so a lot of athletic/jewish girls hangout there during the afternoon. while there a girl walks up to me and tells me i look like adolf hitler, and how much she loves his work. long story short, it ended with me giving her a shower

moral of the story: i fucking love juice.


So 4chan's down huh?
 
stopped by synagogue during my tea break to grab some juice. it's located near a swimming pool, so a lot of athletic/jewish girls hangout there during the afternoon. while there a girl walks up to me and tells me i look like adolf hitler, and how much she loves his work. long story short, it ended with me giving her a shower

moral of the story: i fucking love juice.


Fuck yeah bro, here's mine.

Stopped by a bar today during my lunch hour to grab some a Martini (Shaken not stirred). It's located near MI5, so a lot of MP/agent girls hangout there during the afternoon. While there a girl walks up to me and tells me I look like James Bond, and how much she loves his work. Long story short, it ended me giving her a license to kill.
 
Oh boy, thanks for the advice guys. Pretty good feeling nothing is going to happen, but people do stupid shit when they're drunk. I'll think about this some more and possibly figure out a way to tell her I'm a bit uncomfortable with the situation and try not to come off as an insecure prick.

The other guy has a GF too, met her on Friday. They haven't been dating long though. She isn't there because she has a 1 year old.

the ones saying its a hookup situation make me wish I didn't ask lol
 
Dude, first thing out of my mouth would be "So cool, I can totally invite my friend and two chicks to a hotel room and you won't have a problem right?" lol

That's kind of my backup if she gets mad. " wouldn't you feel uncomfortable of you were in my shoes?"
 
That's kind of my backup if she gets mad. " wouldn't you feel uncomfortable of you were in my shoes?"

That's opening Padora's box and can easily backfire.

Also, I didn't post that insane story. My fucking roommate is an idiot and now I remember why I shut my laptop off when I go out.

Need to find at least one person that shares your interests. And the more you hide, the harder it will be to find an actual relationship match.
Only if the nerd hobbies are important. I don't tell people openly I play games or watch anime. Those things aren't important to me and aren't things I look for in women.
 
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