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[Kung Fu Grip]

This might be of interest to someone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4SyrLtN4Nc

This guy is good stuff. If nothing else, he has a really commanding presence on stage that show true confidence.

I love how he's not a fan of games or pick up lines. I hate those too. But the crazy thing is some girls expect that from guys. So if you're too forward and to the point they wont like it. How many girls have you heard say "that guy had no game"? The fuck? Sigh.

@Jipan. Thanks for the post.

 

[nOoblet16]

Off-topic but how cheap? It's my birthday in a few weeks and I was thinking of going away for a few days.....

Well it'll take me anything between 15 to 35 quids for one way travel through Ryan air, double for return obviously.
It rally depends on where you wanna go and which airline you use.

 

[Antagon]

I love how he's not a fan of games or pick up lines. I hate those too. But the crazy thing is some girls expect that from guys. So if you're too forward and to the point they wont like it. How many girls have you heard say "that guy had no game"? The fuck? Sigh.

@Jipan. Thanks for the post.

Those girls ain't worth the time. If I can't be myself around a girl there's no chance for a healthy relationship anyway.

 

[Jo Shishido's Cheeks]

Well it'll take me anything between 15 to 35 quids for one way travel through Ryan air, double for return obviously.
It rally depends on where you wanna go and which airline you use.

Thanks!
I clearly haven't thought about it in any great detail but I always fancied visiting Marseille.
Having any rough ballpark figure helps, I'll go do a bit of research now

 

[Kung Fu Grip]

My theory is that as male virgins become older and older, they begin to doubt their ability to get laid, thus perpetuating a downward cycle of less and less confidence. Of course, the catch 22 being that confidence is a main ingredient in attracting women.

When a guy is young he can blame his lack of sex on simple bad luck. However, as time goes on, the male becomes self conscious, he questions his looks, he begins to blame society for his faults and eventually his self esteem is shot to hell. Perhaps he will be so discouraged with his situation that he gives up completely. He’ll turn 40 years old, have the appearance of a nice guy, but deep down inside, he’ll have a hidden resentment towards women.

“Be Yourself” – Worst Advice Ever

I think there are some male virgins who simply receive poor advice on dating and are lacking the basic skill set of attraction. This one is not a theory either, just go to any dating advice message board and take a look. You can see clear as day from the posts that most guys, often virgins, are simply clueless on things like confidence, body language, flirting, approaching and how to hold a conversation with women.

Concepts like “be yourself” are terrible for a guy who has absolutely no clue about women. It’s like saying, “oh well, just keep on doing the same things over and over, even though you don’t get any results, and hopefully some day you’ll get lucky.”

t could be that these guys are getting their advice from the wrong sources. For them, it could be a matter of simply learning the fundamentals of attraction.

http://themodernsavage.com/2008/09/30/the-dilemmas-of-male-virgins/

What do you guys think?

 

[subversus]

What do you guys think?

we don't think, we date.

and you should too instead of thinking how you could stay a virgin forever.

be yourself, but don't be an unconfident virgin.

 

[Antagon]

http://themodernsavage.com/2008/09/30/the-dilemmas-of-male-virgins/

What do you guys think?

Personally, I think that the lack of confidence stops people from being themselves. Accept who you are, know your good and bad points and learn not to care too much about what others think. Those are probably the biggest steps I made in the last few years.

Also, only idiots blame society on not getting women. If you can't get someone, it's generally your fault. It might sound bad, but in reality you can change yourself, not your society. Use that to your advantage.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

http://themodernsavage.com/2008/09/30/the-dilemmas-of-male-virgins/

What do you guys think?

Get this negative shit the fuck outta here

 

[Jackben]

The X axis needs to be changed to "How difficult people THINK it is to lose their virginity" and then it's perfect.

Actual "difficulty of losing virginity" graph would show a flat horizontal line after age 18. Difficulty isn't based on age it's based on a number of factors but most importantly it's confidence.

Dating Age isn't about losing your virginity anyway. That hopefully has already happened but if not, it should come from a good relationship. No one here (I hope) is getting into dating for that purpose.

 

[Kung Fu Grip]

The X axis needs to be changed to "How difficult people THINK it is to lose their virginity" and then it's perfect.

Actual "difficulty of losing virginity" graph would show a flat horizontal line after age 18. Difficulty isn't based on age it's based on a number of factors but most importantly it's confidence.

Dating Age isn't about losing your virginity anyway. That hopefully has already happened but if not, it should come from a good relationship. No one here (I hope) is getting into dating for that purpose.

No, it's not. And i actual want to experience a relationship. But come on, i want to have sex too. Not going to lie to myself. Thats a large part of why everyone is in here for. Virgin or not.

 

[SlipperySlope]

No, it's not. And i actual want to experience a relationship. But come on, i want to have sex too. Not going to lie to myself. Thats a large part of why everyone is in here for. Virgin or not.

Just go out there and talk to people. Guys, girls, whoever. The more you do this, the more confident you'll become meeting new people, and at some point, you'll meet someone you like who likes you back. Boom, relationship.

It's really not hard. Just leave your house and talk to people. Young, old, whatever! Go to meetup.com. You can meet lots of people there in real life. It's a site for social junctions.

Edit - talk to the lady at the cash register. Talk to the people at your juice shop. Talk to waitresses. Seriously, people are EVERYWHERE. Just talk! Ask them how their day is going, and go from there.

Edit 2 - and smile.

 

[Omegasquash]

This might be of interest to someone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4SyrLtN4Nc

This guy is good stuff. If nothing else, he has a really commanding presence on stage that show true confidence.

This is advice I'm going to share with my son when he comes of proper age....damn good advice and applicable to damn near anyone. Replace "sex" with whatever other word you want and it ought to work.

 

[Jackben]

come on, i want to have sex too. Not going to lie to myself. Thats a large part of why everyone is in here for. Virgin or not.

Sex is definitely a part of it, but I disagree that it's a large part of why everyone is in here. I'd hope most here have already had sex or at least know how to get it if they want it. This isn't "get laid" age, it's dating age, which is largely focused on finding someone to date, or long-term relationship material; not someone to fuck. Anyone who thinks "I want to post in dating age so I can figure out how to have sex with a girl" is most likely only metaphorically fucked.

 

[Antagon]

Just go out there and talk to people. Guys, girls, whoever. The more you do this, the more confident you'll become meeting new people, and at some point, you'll meet someone you like who likes you back. Boom, relationship.

It's really not hard. Just leave your house and talk to people. Young, old, whatever! Go to meetup.com. You can meet lots of people there in real life. It's a site for social junctions.

Edit - talk to the lady at the cash register. Talk to the people at your juice shop. Talk to waitresses. Seriously, people are EVERYWHERE. Just talk! Ask them how their day is going, and go from there.

Edit 2 - and smile.

Basically this. Plus have fun. Try things that you always wanted. Build a healthy Social life and make sure you're enjoying it on your own. Once you accomplished this, you're almost certain to find someone.

 

[richardhawk]

What do you guys think?

Absolutely true. As a 24 year old virgin and almost 25 now it only gets harder and a lack of confidence effects daily life functions. It does get easier to deal with because you give up hope completely.

 

[OddSpoon]

Few months back, my girlfriend came on skype crying, sobbing, telling me that her male friend, who will be named "Martin", touched her, tried having sex. She was drinking, and she made out with him, but didn't have sex.

I supported her, helped her, forgave her.

Just last night, our mutual friend tells me she really did have sex with Martin. She told our friend because she "didn't want to ruin our relationship" - that's why she didn't tell me she had no sex with this Martin.

I'm pissed I had to find out this way, that she couldn't show loyalty, and respect.

I talked to my girlfriend for hours last night, told her I forgave her.

- - Long distant relationship. We were together for a month, not one mention of this guy. She goes back to her city and continues to see this guy when I am not around.

Makes me feel sometimes she will drop me, and have this backup boyfriend.


What's laughable about this is, as I was finding out this information, she was out playing pool with Martin last night.

She swears she will never see him again, and that she loves me.

- Oh, and I am on the verge of making a life choice of moving out to her country, dropping everything I have to be with her. Friends, family, my job, everything.

I forgave her, want to be with her. I love my girlfriend but I still question it, and have an upset stomach.

Everything was going perfect. My family loves her, had this plan of moving to be with her,)still doing it, but christ sakes.)

I will bring this up to her again today. Just wanted to see GAF's responses, if I get any.

sorry I'm frustrated, on my lunch break, and I have to work a few more hours, and talk with her. this is on my mind and it sucks :/

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Few months back, my girlfriend came on skype crying, sobbing, telling me that her male friend, who will be named "Martin", touched her, tried having sex. She was drinking, and she made out with him, but didn't have sex.

I supported her, helped her, forgave her.

Just last night, our mutual friend tells me she really did have sex with Martin. She told our friend because she "didn't want to ruin our relationship" - that's why she didn't tell me she had no sex with this Martin.

I'm pissed I had to find out this way, that she couldn't show loyalty, and respect.

I talked to my girlfriend for hours last night, told her I forgave her.

- - Long distant relationship. We were together for a month, not one mention of this guy. She goes back to her city and continues to see this guy when I am not around.

Makes me feel sometimes she will drop me, and have this backup boyfriend.


What's laughable about this is, as I was finding out this information, she was out playing pool with Martin last night.

She swears she will never see him again, and that she loves me.

- Oh, and I am on the verge of making a life choice of moving out to her country, dropping everything I have to be with her. Friends, family, my job, everything.

I forgave her, want to be with her. I love my girlfriend but I still question it, and have an upset stomach.

Everything was going perfect. My family loves her, had this plan of moving to be with her,)still doing it, but christ sakes.)

I will bring this up to her again today. Just wanted to see GAF's responses, if I get any.

sorry I'm frustrated, on my lunch break, and I have to work a few more hours, and talk with her. this is on my mind and it sucks :/

Run bro. Just run. She will keep doing this.

 

[Antagon]

Few months back, my girlfriend came on skype crying, sobbing, telling me that her male friend, who will be named "Martin", touched her, tried having sex. She was drinking, and she made out with him, but didn't have sex.

I supported her, helped her, forgave her.

Just last night, our mutual friend tells me she really did have sex with Martin. She told our friend because she "didn't want to ruin our relationship" - that's why she didn't tell me she had no sex with this Martin.

I'm pissed I had to find out this way, that she couldn't show loyalty, and respect.

I talked to my girlfriend for hours last night, told her I forgave her.

- - Long distant relationship. We were together for a month, not one mention of this guy. She goes back to her city and continues to see this guy when I am not around.

Makes me feel sometimes she will drop me, and have this backup boyfriend.


What's laughable about this is, as I was finding out this information, she was out playing pool with Martin last night.

She swears she will never see him again, and that she loves me.

- Oh, and I am on the verge of making a life choice of moving out to her country, dropping everything I have to be with her. Friends, family, my job, everything.

I forgave her, want to be with her. I love my girlfriend but I still question it, and have an upset stomach.

Everything was going perfect. My family loves her, had this plan of moving to be with her,)still doing it, but christ sakes.)

I will bring this up to her again today. Just wanted to see GAF's responses, if I get any.

sorry I'm frustrated, on my lunch break, and I have to work a few more hours, and talk with her. this is on my mind and it sucks :/

She's lying about this stuff and you still want to move to be with her? Don't do that, this doesn't sound like a relationship that'll last.

 

[NeOak]

- - Long distant relationship. We were together for a month, not one mention of this guy. She goes back to her city and continues to see this guy when I am not around.

Bail out. If she doesn't respect you now, she never will.

 

[Jackben]

Yeah OddSpoon, get away from this girl. She is a sneak and a liar.

You will be horribly fucked over if you move and end up stuck in a foreign country away from all you know and love when she eventually (and inevitably) truly screws you for the last time.

It does get easier to deal with because you give up hope completely.

"Hmm, thread of positivity, confidence and not being a 'nice' guy? Maybe I should post some encouraging anecdote or request some advice...nah fuck that, LISTEN EVERYONE, if you haven't been laid by X age you might as well just kill yourself!"

 

[Raiden]

Few months back, my girlfriend came on skype crying, sobbing, telling me that her male friend, who will be named "Martin", touched her, tried having sex. She was drinking, and she made out with him, but didn't have sex.

I supported her, helped her, forgave her.

Just last night, our mutual friend tells me she really did have sex with Martin. She told our friend because she "didn't want to ruin our relationship" - that's why she didn't tell me she had no sex with this Martin.

I'm pissed I had to find out this way, that she couldn't show loyalty, and respect.

I talked to my girlfriend for hours last night, told her I forgave her.

- - Long distant relationship. We were together for a month, not one mention of this guy. She goes back to her city and continues to see this guy when I am not around.

Makes me feel sometimes she will drop me, and have this backup boyfriend.


What's laughable about this is, as I was finding out this information, she was out playing pool with Martin last night.

She swears she will never see him again, and that she loves me.

- Oh, and I am on the verge of making a life choice of moving out to her country, dropping everything I have to be with her. Friends, family, my job, everything.

I forgave her, want to be with her. I love my girlfriend but I still question it, and have an upset stomach.

Everything was going perfect. My family loves her, had this plan of moving to be with her,)still doing it, but christ sakes.)

I will bring this up to her again today. Just wanted to see GAF's responses, if I get any.

sorry I'm frustrated, on my lunch break, and I have to work a few more hours, and talk with her. this is on my mind and it sucks :/

Im afraid the advice you dont want to hear is the good and correct advice.


Trust is already ruined. Just think about all the times you're going to have that feeling in your stomach everytime she is out with "friends" or something like that.

Time to bail out my friend.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Few months back, my girlfriend came on skype crying, sobbing, telling me that her male friend, who will be named "Martin", touched her, tried having sex. She was drinking, and she made out with him, but didn't have sex.

I supported her, helped her, forgave her.

Just last night, our mutual friend tells me she really did have sex with Martin. She told our friend because she "didn't want to ruin our relationship" - that's why she didn't tell me she had no sex with this Martin.

I'm pissed I had to find out this way, that she couldn't show loyalty, and respect.

I talked to my girlfriend for hours last night, told her I forgave her.

- - Long distant relationship. We were together for a month, not one mention of this guy. She goes back to her city and continues to see this guy when I am not around.

Makes me feel sometimes she will drop me, and have this backup boyfriend.


What's laughable about this is, as I was finding out this information, she was out playing pool with Martin last night.

She swears she will never see him again, and that she loves me.

- Oh, and I am on the verge of making a life choice of moving out to her country, dropping everything I have to be with her. Friends, family, my job, everything.

I forgave her, want to be with her. I love my girlfriend but I still question it, and have an upset stomach.

Everything was going perfect. My family loves her, had this plan of moving to be with her,)still doing it, but christ sakes.)

I will bring this up to her again today. Just wanted to see GAF's responses, if I get any.

sorry I'm frustrated, on my lunch break, and I have to work a few more hours, and talk with her. this is on my mind and it sucks :/

Her offenses:

• Cheating on you with martin.
• She lied to you about having sex with martin.
• She "saw" another guy when you were in a long-distance relationship.
• She still sees the guy she cheated you on with.

I don't think you should go ahead and move to her country, by the sound of it she will probably cheat on you again with martin.

Question:

The two of you sound very young, how old are the two of you?

 

[stn]

OddSpoon

I'm generally the type that does not forgive any type of cheating. If a person does it once then he/she is very capable of it again. Your "girlfriend" is treating you like crap. She does not love you.

The ONLY solution you have is to completely drop her. Please do not make any life choices such as moving to be with her. You'll end up wasting time and money for nothing.

My apologies if I sound harsh but I really want you to feel what I'm trying to convey. Good luck with everything, I hope you pull through.

Hair post

If you think hair matters to women then it WILL matter to women. I'm not balding but I can understand why it sucks for men, though I personally cannot pull off the shaved look. You need to inspire yourself to not care about that...or get a hair transplant. I'd suggest getting a #0 haircut and just working out. Grow a beard if you can, all you need is a 5-o'clock shadow. I'd suggest posting a pic, it might not be as bad as you think!

 

[SquiddyCracker]

http://themodernsavage.com/2008/09/30/the-dilemmas-of-male-virgins/

What do you guys think?

"It's not your fault you're not getting laid, it's society/the women"

 

[nOoblet16]

GAF I have a small question.

Is it a good idea to tell someone you like them eventhough they now live in a different city? The woman is a good friend of mine and has shown interest in me in the past, we are extremely similar to each other in personality and also in terms of shared interests, and it just kills me everyday knowing that she doesn't has the slightest idea about how much I like her.

I know people will say I've got nothing to lose (or gain..for that matter) but there's a very high possibility that next year I'll be moving to her city as well, it wouldn't have been this hard if she wasn't absolutely one of the most brilliant yet humble person I've ever known which is why it'll be tragic if she takes it in the wrong way and goes on to become a stranger.

Guys...anything ? :|

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Guys...anything ? :|

I would just advice you to keep in touch with her and keep things friendly until you actually move to that city.

 

[Nibel]

Few months back, my girlfriend came on skype crying, sobbing, telling me that her male friend, who will be named "Martin", touched her, tried having sex. She was drinking, and she made out with him, but didn't have sex.

I supported her, helped her, forgave her.

Just last night, our mutual friend tells me she really did have sex with Martin. She told our friend because she "didn't want to ruin our relationship" - that's why she didn't tell me she had no sex with this Martin.

I'm pissed I had to find out this way, that she couldn't show loyalty, and respect.

I talked to my girlfriend for hours last night, told her I forgave her.

- - Long distant relationship. We were together for a month, not one mention of this guy. She goes back to her city and continues to see this guy when I am not around.

Makes me feel sometimes she will drop me, and have this backup boyfriend.


What's laughable about this is, as I was finding out this information, she was out playing pool with Martin last night.

She swears she will never see him again, and that she loves me.

- Oh, and I am on the verge of making a life choice of moving out to her country, dropping everything I have to be with her. Friends, family, my job, everything.

I forgave her, want to be with her. I love my girlfriend but I still question it, and have an upset stomach.

Everything was going perfect. My family loves her, had this plan of moving to be with her,)still doing it, but christ sakes.)

I will bring this up to her again today. Just wanted to see GAF's responses, if I get any.

sorry I'm frustrated, on my lunch break, and I have to work a few more hours, and talk with her. this is on my mind and it sucks :/

Deep inside your heart you know what you have to do. I'm sorry man.

 

[The Antitype]

It's always fun catching girls in a lie.

Started up a convo with a girl on POF, seemed to be going pretty well in the early stages when I was just teasing her.

Then I asked her a genuine question about her profile, cause she seemed cool and I wanted to know about her.

Nothing bores a woman faster than genuine interest in her personality or interests.

I know it, and I keep ignoring this simple truth to my own detriment.

Anyway, she had listed adventures as one of her interests, so I told her to tell me about her last adventure, great or small. Still a pretty fun question, even by interest-investigation standards.

Check my messages the next morning.

Read Deleted.

Ok then. I figure she's shown her colors, but she's got nice tits, so I'll give her a second chance. I tease her about false advertising, and ask her about her travels instead.

Read Deleted.

And scene. At this point, I don't give a shit about her anymore, so I say something like 'Wow. Classy. Nothing more attractive than a woman that plays games on a dating website.'

She answers wah wah wah, haven't had a chance to message back. I saw this coming.

'It's hard to respond to messages when you delete them.'

Now she's caught in a lie, doesn't argue just calls me an ugly loser, yada yada, completely ignoring the fact that she was happily messaging me for a day or so. I'm blocked, boo hoo.

Meh, I'd be more upset about the lost prospect if I were a boob guy:

Next!

 

[Minamu]

This is advice I'm going to share with my son when he comes of proper age....damn good advice and applicable to damn near anyone. Replace "sex" with whatever other word you want and it ought to work.

Glad to hear it His channel seems alright too. And I agree, I didn't get a single tip on birds and bees growing up, so this is definitely something I intend to pass on. My children won't have the same youth as I did.

^^ Classy lady, yeah. But you sound kinda butthurt too you know She doesn't seem like someone worth getting upset over.

 

[SlipperySlope]

It's always fun catching girls in a lie.

Started up a convo with a girl on POF, seemed to be going pretty well in the early stages when I was just teasing her.

Then I asked her a genuine question about her profile, cause she seemed cool and I wanted to know about her.

Nothing bores a woman faster than genuine interest in her personality or interests.

I know it, and I keep ignoring this simple truth to my own detriment.

Anyway, she had listed adventures as one of her interests, so I told her to tell me about her last adventure, great or small. Still a pretty fun question, even by interest-investigation standards.

Check my messages the next morning.

Read Deleted.

Ok then. I figure she's shown her colors, but she's got nice tits, so I'll give her a second chance. I tease her about false advertising, and ask her about her travels instead.

Read Deleted.

And scene. At this point, I don't give a shit about her anymore, so I say something like 'Wow. Classy. Nothing more attractive than a woman that plays games on a dating website.'

She answers wah wah wah, haven't had a chance to message back. I saw this coming.

'It's hard to respond to messages when you delete them.'

Now she's caught in a lie, doesn't argue just calls me an ugly loser, yada yada, completely ignoring the fact that she was happily messaging me for a day or so. I'm blocked, boo hoo.

Meh, I'd be more upset about the lost prospect if I were a boob guy:

Next!

I see no problem asking girls about their interests. They like it. Her case was specific. She probably found someone else to talk to. I mean, you were only chatting for a day.

The moment you saw read deleted, you should have dropped it. She lost interest. It has happened to everybody here. Everybody.

Honestly, you bugging her about it shows a bad personality trait. Don't show your anger on others, ever. Remember, positivity.

Edit - she blocked you because you turned into a creep. Don't do that.

 

[The Antitype]

I see no problem asking girls about their interests. They like it. Her case was specific. She probably found someone else to talk to. I mean, you were only chatting for a day.

The moment you saw read deleted, you should have dropped it. She lost interest. It has happened to everybody here. Everybody.

Honestly, you bugging her about it shows a bad personality trait. Don't show your anger on others, ever. Remember, positivity.

Edit - she blocked you because you turned into a creep. Don't do that.

Meh, I didn't mean to give the impression I was angry. More just playing with her, seeing how far she would dig this passive-aggressive hole.

And besides, while she has nice tits, her face is not great.

So yeah, unless huge tits were my fetish of choice, not a loss I'm crying over.

 

[subversus]

Next!

looks like a girl who'd be great to pick up at the bar or some beach party but unless you have a nice body and/or tons of money she is a hard pick at the dating site.

well, it just how I see it, I must see other pics in her profile to judge more efficiently. Sometimes girls have smoking hot bodies and look like top models in their swimsuits but other pics can reveal a pretty "tame" woman.

edit: saw the other pic. She is definitely not the type that I described but it's harder for me to read foreign women.

 

[The Antitype]

Edit - she blocked you because you turned into a creep. Don't do that.

I turned into a creep cause she revealed herself as a disrespectful princess. I have no regrets.

 

[low-G]

It's always fun catching girls in a lie.

Started up a convo with a girl on POF, seemed to be going pretty well in the early stages when I was just teasing her.

Then I asked her a genuine question about her profile, cause she seemed cool and I wanted to know about her.

Nothing bores a woman faster than genuine interest in her personality or interests.

I know it, and I keep ignoring this simple truth to my own detriment.

Anyway, she had listed adventures as one of her interests, so I told her to tell me about her last adventure, great or small. Still a pretty fun question, even by interest-investigation standards.

Check my messages the next morning.

Read Deleted.

Ok then. I figure she's shown her colors, but she's got nice tits, so I'll give her a second chance. I tease her about false advertising, and ask her about her travels instead.

Read Deleted.

And scene. At this point, I don't give a shit about her anymore, so I say something like 'Wow. Classy. Nothing more attractive than a woman that plays games on a dating website.'

She answers wah wah wah, haven't had a chance to message back. I saw this coming.

'It's hard to respond to messages when you delete them.'

Now she's caught in a lie, doesn't argue just calls me an ugly loser, yada yada, completely ignoring the fact that she was happily messaging me for a day or so. I'm blocked, boo hoo.

Meh, I'd be more upset about the lost prospect if I were a boob guy:

Next!

She's not that great. Her boobs are average at best and she wasn't that into you. And hey maybe she just wanted to fuck you and not chat. She might be one of those dummies. In a way there's nothing wrong with that, she wants what she wants, and a girl, if she's really like that, wouldn't be interesting to you in the first place.

Also yeah you were WAYYYY too obsessed with her, way too much heart on your sleeve, way too overreacting, cared way too much.

Absolutely true. As a 24 year old virgin and almost 25 now it only gets harder and a lack of confidence effects daily life functions. It does get easier to deal with because you give up hope completely.

No. Stop being stupid negative. You're not even old at all, and I started out older than you and now I got plenty of action. Self-pity is the most destructive way out.

"It's not your fault you're not getting laid, it's society/the women"

That attitude, especially the women blaming, will really screw you over.

 

[NihonTiger90]

This might be of interest to someone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4SyrLtN4Nc

This guy is good stuff. If nothing else, he has a really commanding presence on stage that show true confidence.

It's funny; as I was listening to this guy, I was wondering how much he's read from my playbook. Pretty much over time, I've learned exactly everything he preaches; pay attention to her, be confident, have patience and don't rush shit. And most importantly, understand girls. It is much better being 50/50 and waiting for a girl to be ready for you. I realize I spent too many years chasing when I should not have been doing so.

I do disagree with one thing from his video: Wayne Fontes was not an awful coach. He was an OK coach blessed with an amazing offense and an all-galaxy running back but that is besides the point.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

This is what I see:

*long detailed story about a girl*
But I really don't care LOL. I typed this all up to make me look awesome.
I'm not bitter or resentful, but here's her picture. Yeah she's not that great, but BOOBS. Y'all would've done the same.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Sour grapes is a funny look.

 

[The Antitype]

This is what I see:

You're right, nobody in this thread has vented about the absurdity of the opposite sex (both).

I am the first.

Bitter? No. Little disappointed? Sure.

More importantly, I thought some people could learn from my mistake. Speaking to a woman about her interests is a very quick way of boring them.

 

[low-G]

More importantly, I thought some people could learn from my mistake. Speaking to a woman about her interests is a very quick way of boring them.

That's not a lesson at all, it depends on the girl.

 

[Kung Fu Grip]

Sex is definitely a part of it, but I disagree that it's a large part of why everyone is in here. I'd hope most here have already had sex or at least know how to get it if they want it. This isn't "get laid" age, it's dating age, which is largely focused on finding someone to date, or long-term relationship material; not someone to fuck. Anyone who thinks "I want to post in dating age so I can figure out how to have sex with a girl" is most likely only metaphorically fucked.

As i already said, i want a relationship also.

"It's not your fault you're not getting laid, it's society/the women"

Theres truth to that. Especially if you don't look a certain way. Don't play dumb...........Oh wait you probably have a girl already.

Absolutely true. As a 24 year old virgin and almost 25 now it only gets harder and a lack of confidence effects daily life functions. It does get easier to deal with because you give up hope completely.

It really does get hard. But the people with girlfriends since 12 years old will never understand this. Only make assumptions. They have zero clue what it's like.

I think high school and college is where you have the most chance of finding a girl. But in high school i never really got any attention anyway. And i never went to college.

A past friend mentioned to me "you should of went to college bro" when he asked if i ever had a girlfriend. This was at 21/22.

This is advice I'm going to share with my son when he comes of proper age....damn good advice and applicable to damn near anyone. Replace "sex" with whatever other word you want and it ought to work.

Don't forget no porn. It's a massive waste of time and energy.

It can be watched, but don't let it consume you where you feel you need it everyday.

 

[Smelly Tramp]

As i already said, i want a relationship also.

and this is why you will fail.

never approach women wanting a relationship, be happy on your own, start talking to women, then it might turn into seeing them, and then if they're good enough then it becomes a proper relationship.

It really does get hard. But the people with girlfriends since 12 years old will never understand this. Only make assumptions. They have zero clue what it's like.

and this is another reason why you are failing. stop thinking getting laid is some mammoth task you are unable to achieve. it's f*ckin easy and even the ugliest of blokes out there can manage it.

 

[The Orange]

You're right, nobody in this thread has vented about the absurdity of the opposite sex (both).

I am the first.

Bitter? No. Little disappointed? Sure.

More importantly, I thought some people could learn from my mistake. Speaking to a woman about her interests is a very quick way of boring them.

I think you already posted a similar story once of calling some woman out on her bullshit, so it seems to be a repeating pattern that you react way too strong to these types of things. After that initial exchange, you wasted 3 messages on some random woman, coming off increasingly more creepy and weak. Actually not caring means not sending aggressive and weird messages multiple times, but going on with your life without even blinking. She's not going to be bothered by your response, she gets hundreds of messages, you did not even register on any significant level in her mind as evident by her just straight deleting your stuff. You got better things to do with your time than deal with that kind of shit.

No one says don't vent, but damn dude, don't stoop to that level, that's swimming with the trash.

 

[stn]

The Antitype

I get the impression that you're the vengeful type. I can understand that, its in all of us. But honestly, your best move is to do NOTHING. The last time a girl disrespected me I simply moved on and deleted all her contacts. What resulted was "pokes" and messages over Facebook, which I also ignored. Some girls hate nothing more than when you show a lack of caring.

Remember: you're too cool and important for disrespectful women. Once you realize that you won't even care when they pull some kind of bullshit on you.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Few months back, my girlfriend came on skype crying, sobbing, telling me that her male friend, who will be named "Martin", touched her, tried having sex. She was drinking, and she made out with him, but didn't have sex.

I supported her, helped her, forgave her.

Just last night, our mutual friend tells me she really did have sex with Martin. She told our friend because she "didn't want to ruin our relationship" - that's why she didn't tell me she had no sex with this Martin.

I'm pissed I had to find out this way, that she couldn't show loyalty, and respect.

I talked to my girlfriend for hours last night, told her I forgave her.

- - Long distant relationship. We were together for a month, not one mention of this guy. She goes back to her city and continues to see this guy when I am not around.

Makes me feel sometimes she will drop me, and have this backup boyfriend.


What's laughable about this is, as I was finding out this information, she was out playing pool with Martin last night.

She swears she will never see him again, and that she loves me.

- Oh, and I am on the verge of making a life choice of moving out to her country, dropping everything I have to be with her. Friends, family, my job, everything.

I forgave her, want to be with her. I love my girlfriend but I still question it, and have an upset stomach.

Everything was going perfect. My family loves her, had this plan of moving to be with her,)still doing it, but christ sakes.)

I will bring this up to her again today. Just wanted to see GAF's responses, if I get any.

sorry I'm frustrated, on my lunch break, and I have to work a few more hours, and talk with her. this is on my mind and it sucks :/

She's probably boning him from time to time. I've known girls who do this. Keep forgiving her though. :/

 

[Jackben]

Theres truth to blaming society and women for not being in a relationship. Especially if you don't look a certain way. Don't play dumb...Oh wait you probably have a girl already.

It really does get hard. But the people with girlfriends since 12 years old will never understand this. Only make assumptions. They have zero clue what it's like.

So much ignorance. Squiddy and others don't deserve this garbage. Please feel free to join Combine on sad and pathetic island if this is going to be your attitude.

 

[low-G]

and this is why you will fail.

never approach women wanting a relationship, be happy on your own, start talking to women, then it might turn into seeing them, and then if they're good enough then it becomes a proper relationship.

I object to this part, partially. You can want a relationship, but if you go to a girl thinking you want that relationship before you know her very well, that's a mistake. Cart before the horse.

But the things a relationship has, coming home to someone, cuddles, sharing a bed, family, all that security is something a person can want. Not everyone wants a life of fucking around and hanging out with friends.

It really does get hard. But the people with girlfriends since 12 years old will never understand this. Only make assumptions. They have zero clue what it's like.

I think high school and college is where you have the most chance of finding a girl. But in high school i never really got any attention anyway. And i never went to college.

A past friend mentioned to me "you should of went to college bro" when he asked if i ever had a girlfriend. This was at 21/22.

It was literally only hard in my head. You too will see when you get it. I had friends tell me and I didn't believe it until I actually got laid. It will really change your mind on what all of it is like.

 

[Tex117]

Few months back, my girlfriend came on skype crying, sobbing, telling me that her male friend, who will be named "Martin", touched her, tried having sex. She was drinking, and she made out with him, but didn't have sex.

I supported her, helped her, forgave her.

Just last night, our mutual friend tells me she really did have sex with Martin. She told our friend because she "didn't want to ruin our relationship" - that's why she didn't tell me she had no sex with this Martin.

I'm pissed I had to find out this way, that she couldn't show loyalty, and respect.

I talked to my girlfriend for hours last night, told her I forgave her.

- - Long distant relationship. We were together for a month, not one mention of this guy. She goes back to her city and continues to see this guy when I am not around.

Makes me feel sometimes she will drop me, and have this backup boyfriend.


What's laughable about this is, as I was finding out this information, she was out playing pool with Martin last night.

She swears she will never see him again, and that she loves me.

- Oh, and I am on the verge of making a life choice of moving out to her country, dropping everything I have to be with her. Friends, family, my job, everything.

I forgave her, want to be with her. I love my girlfriend but I still question it, and have an upset stomach.

Everything was going perfect. My family loves her, had this plan of moving to be with her,)still doing it, but christ sakes.)

I will bring this up to her again today. Just wanted to see GAF's responses, if I get any.

sorry I'm frustrated, on my lunch break, and I have to work a few more hours, and talk with her. this is on my mind and it sucks :/

Damn man this woefully blows. But I agree with everyone else. Not only did she cheat on you, she lied to you about it, and continues to do so.

You need to dump her, Not Contact her, and be strong, you deserve better.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Damn man this woefully blows. But I agree with everyone else. Not only did she cheat on you, she lied to you about it, and continues to do so.

You need to dump her, Not Contact her, and be strong, you deserve better.

It can't be said enough. NO FUCKING CONTACT. I would be an ice cold bitch and just drop her cold turkey and not even tell her we're broken up. Just let her figure it out.

 

[subversus]

The Antitype

I get the impression that you're the vengeful type. I can understand that, its in all of us. But honestly, your best move is to do NOTHING. The last time a girl disrespected me I simply moved on and deleted all her contacts. What resulted was "pokes" and messages over Facebook, which I also ignored. Some girls hate nothing more than when you show a lack of caring.

Remember: you're too cool and important for disrespectful women. Once you realize that you won't even care when they pull some kind of bullshit on you.

this. You shouldn't care. Also people should try to be positive about it. When you approach or text somebody don't do this like you need something from her (any kind of attention, sex, whatever). Do this because you like her.

 

[Minamu]

As much as the virgins complain about it, it really isn't such a big deal. I used to think the same way, most of us probably did, and I've smacked myself silly since then over how much I cared about it. Saying it isn't a big deal isn't going to help anyone not fret over it though. Some things you gotta realize on your own, it seems.

If it's that important to you, slip it into conversation with a girl at a club or wherever. I'm sure that would work better than most pickup lines actually xD There are tons of women who'd find it appealing to teach a guy the ropes.