Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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She's depressed that she got caught and now things are shitty instead of you still believing almost nothing happened.

She's going to be riding that other dude all she wants. You might as well let her go do that, deal with it, and come back into the dating pool strong when you're ready. I'm assuming you're young. This happens to all of us. We've all been through that feel, bro. You will come out a better man.
 
She's depressed that she got caught and now things are shitty instead of you still believing almost nothing happened.

She's going to be riding that other dude all she wants. You might as well let her go do that, deal with it, and come back into the dating pool strong when you're ready. I'm assuming you're young. This happens to all of us. We've all been through that feel, bro. You will come out a better man.

So my answer is to be cruel to her for a period of time, let her feel this way for a while

"no your answer is to dump her" which I am not doing
 
So my answer is to be cruel to her for a period of time, let her feel this way for a while

"no your answer is to dump her" which I am not doing

You're being cruel to yourself.

She cheated on you. She doesn't respect you as a partner. There's no reason to keep being with her, and you're just hurting yourself the longer you stay.
 
So my answer is to be cruel to her for a period of time, let her feel this way for a while

"no your answer is to dump her" which I am not doing

Then you're a fool. Your 'girlfriend' is repeatedly cheating on you, will continue to do so, and clearly doesn't respect you. What will happen once she's come to terms with you, especially considering how much of a wuss it makes you look if you roll over and follow her around when she's shitting on you like this, is dump you.

There are a LOT of girls out there in the world. A lot. There's a near guarantee that regardless of who anyone in this thread is dating, there's a girl even more suited to them somewhere in the world. Why hold yourself back from finding a great girl who treats you right to stay with a lying cheating skank who'll just use you, abuse you and dump you?

Do you hate yourself?
 
So my answer is to be cruel to her for a period of time, let her feel this way for a while

"no your answer is to dump her" which I am not doing

This is the behavior of a passive-aggressive turd. I hope you suffer greatly for the remainder of the relationship. Perhaps there is an STD in your future.
 
So my answer is to be cruel to her for a period of time, let her feel this way for a while

"no your answer is to dump her" which I am not doing
Dude, what drugs do you use? How are your critical thinking and association skills so bad? It feels like every response you give is only barely related to what is being said to you.
 
Is it normal for your girlfriend to rarely talk about what she does with her friends? Usually I always tell her what I do, but most of the time I have no clue what shes doing.
 
Is it normal for your girlfriend to rarely talk about what she does with her friends? Usually I always tell her what I do, but most of the time I have no clue what shes doing.
Potentially. I dislike talking about myself and often find it boring and don't really need anyone else to know. My girlfriend often has to coax details out of me while she's happy to talk about everything all the time.

It can be a personality thing, and it doesn't necessarily have to be bad. However, there's always the other explanation for why she might not be so talkative.
 
Just thought its weird cause sometimes I log onto facebook and theres pictures of her hanging with her friends and she never tells me what they did etc etc. I usually never ask cause I don't want to be like I NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING but I also dont like being in the dark
 
Would if I told you she's really the only friend I have, and the only thing I look forward to each day is going on Skype to talk with her

The one month I was with her was the best time of my life

But I have to remember when I was hard at work getting money to see her, passport etc. she was fucking some dude
 
Don't start that shit again, please.

Great, now I'm dealing with a rape victim as well. Not her fault obviously. Thoughts? I'm not looking for a relationship and I've never met her.

Considering something like 1/3rd of women have been raped, some of you are probably with women that never told anyone they were raped. My mom told me and my dad she was raped, but only once and never owned up to it again after that.

Most rape victims are literally perfectly normal acting afterwards.
 
Would if I told you she's really the only friend I have, and the only thing I look forward to each day is going on Skype to talk with her

The one month I was with her was the best time of my life

But I have to remember when I was hard at work getting money to see her, passport etc. she was fucking some dude

A starving man might settle for eating shit, but he won't last long.
 
Would if I told you she's really the only friend I have, and the only thing I look forward to each day is going on Skype to talk with her

The one month I was with her was the best time of my life

But I have to remember when I was hard at work getting money to see her, passport etc. she was fucking some dude

You... you're like an addict at this moment. Nothing we can say will make you react.

Go on, go there and be there with a woman who has lied to you repeatedly, cheated with who knows how many and manipulated you. Reality will serve your dish cold when you realize you are won't be anything else than the backup choice.

You're her tear towel, the emotional blanket. Nothing else.
 
Would if I told you she's really the only friend I have, and the only thing I look forward to each day is going on Skype to talk with her

The one month I was with her was the best time of my life

But I have to remember when I was hard at work getting money to see her, passport etc. she was fucking some dude

Just do your thing, bro. I know too many guys like you and you're a lost cause, so you might as well see this thing all the way through. Don't break up with her, and just be there for her 100%. If she is your only source of happiness in life right now, then why get rid of it and be miserable and alone? Since right now you are too blind to let it go, I know being miserable with company is better than being miserable and alone for you, even if the company IS the source of that misery.
 
Would if I told you she's really the only friend I have, and the only thing I look forward to each day is going on Skype to talk with her

The one month I was with her was the best time of my life

But I have to remember when I was hard at work getting money to see her, passport etc. she was fucking some dude

Dude, we knew this...and she knows this. You are her rock...the rock that she has set up camp on. The guy she can rely on to always be there, because you're a tool in her eyes. From the camp she's set up she goes exploring...exploring her sexuality. She can fuck around and not have to worry about whether someone will be there the next morning or not. You are there. So unless you like getting played dude...played like a piano...dump her. Dump her or deal with it and stop posting for our advice. Just update us when it spirals out of control.
 
I still can't understand why men allow being played like that. It's the third case I saw on GAF. They all must be very young.
 
I still can't understand why men allow being played like that. It's the third case I saw on GAF. They all must be very young.

Because they do not have any respect for themselves. Plain and simple. They lay there, in the corner, in a fetal position whispering to themselves "But they wub me".
 
Met chick at party last Saturday. Longer playful chat and dancing. We agreed to meet up later in the week so she gave me her full name and phone number. While at the party she tells me to add her to Facebook. Not really the smartest thing if we are going to date but I was influenced and sent her a friend request.

On Monday I call her but she doesn't pickup. She texts me that she is at the gym and I should call back later. I call a second time in the evening but she doesn't pick up.
I call Tuesday afternoon and she doesn't pick up. I leave a message that I would like to see her again and have an activity in mind. She doesn't reply and by now I assume she has backed out and I'm looking forward to another party weekend.

Today she accepts the Facebook invite. She clearly has been using Facebook in the last few days but she waited until now. Not that it changes anything as I'm going out there again this weekend but I think the signal is pretty clear in that she won't date me but at the same time she wants to be a friend (digitally friendzoned!). Another note of interest is that she is apparently married to another woman but reading some of their dialogue this seems just like som fun between friends. She also has 900+ FB friends heh.

Another weekend out trying to score date(s).
 
Because they do not have any respect for themselves. Plain and simple. They lay there, in the corner, in a fetal position whispering to themselves "But they wub me".

I think it has to do more with relationship stereotypes imposed by society. Like "every couple goes through hard times, but true love saves it all".
 
Met chick at party last Saturday. Longer playful chat and dancing. We agreed to meet up later in the week so she gave me her full name and phone number. While at the party she tells me to add her to Facebook. Not really the smartest thing if we are going to date but I was influenced and sent her a friend request.

On Monday I call her but she doesn't pickup. She texts me that she is at the gym and I should call back later. I call a second time in the evening but she doesn't pick up.
I call Tuesday afternoon and she doesn't pick up. I leave a message that I would like to see her again and have an activity in mind. She doesn't reply and by now I assume she has backed out and I'm looking forward to another party weekend.

Today she accepts the Facebook invite. She clearly has been using Facebook in the last few days but she waited until now. Not that it changes anything as I'm going out there again this weekend but I think the signal is pretty clear in that she won't date me but at the same time she wants to be a friend (friendzoned!). Another note of interest is that she is apparently married to another woman but reading some of their dialogue this seems just like som fun between friends. She also has 900+ FB friends heh.

Another weekend out trying to score date(s).

Goddamn. Well, just be friends then. But seriously, in future, I do advise only keeping to like one text or one call only. They know if you tried to contact them, if they don't respond back the first time, then the ball is in their court...stop lobbing balls at them lol.

I think it has to do more with relationship stereotypes imposed by society. Like "every couple goes through hard times, but true love saves it all".

I'll have to disagree. With everything these posters reveal, you see that they are insecure, have low self-esteem and let people walk all over them because they have to have someone in their life. I've seen quite a few girls who are the same...just let a guy walk all over them because they just have to have someone.
 
I'm improving every week. This weeks patch:
- Don't send FB request even if asked before date. Reason out of it ('you should get to know me better').
- Try to limit it to one phonecall/sms even if no-one picks up on the former.
 
I'm improving every week. This weeks patch:
- Don't send FB request even if asked before date. Reason out of it ('you should get to know me better').
- Try to limit it to one phonecall/sms even if no-one picks up on the former.

Though hilariously, when you said you had "Another activity in mind", she probably totally thought it was sex. Was it sex? lol
 
Haha. Actually it was glow golf. Blacklight minigolf courses.
I didn't detail it as I was hoping it would spark curiosity and you know, she would ask.

I don't want a first date to be dinner and formal. I want some activity and casual clothing, to make her relax and have fun.
 
Haha. Actually it was glow golf. Blacklight minigolf courses.
I didn't detail it as I was hoping it would spark curiosity and you know, she would ask.

I don't want a first date to be dinner and formal. I want some activity and casual clothing, to make her relax and have fun.

That's cool. Btw, another thing...if you call once, and they tell you hey, call me back. Man to me that's the wrong answer, I already called, you should call when you're free ya know?
 
OddSpoon, don't you want to be with someone who would never even think about cheating on you? Wouldn't you rather be with someone you know you can trust totally, because now (even if you tell yourself you forgive her) you'll always have that sneaking suspicion that maybe, just maybe, she's still cheating on you. Do you want to live with that paranoia?

She wronged you, man. Wronged you in the worst way one half of a couple can be wronged by the other (outside of murder, I guess...lol). It's time to move on.
 
I have a feeling oddspoon is going time have to learn lessons in his own. Relationships can be salvaged after affairs, though I have my doubts in this case. I hope everything works out for you.
She doesn't need to stop being friends with her female friends because they'll go shoe shopping and talk about stuff I have no interest in, but she let go of her male friends a long time ago, and she also talks to her female friends a lot less as well. She knows they all just wanted to have sex with her, and she's not immature enough to believe any new guys she meets want to be her "friend", so she doesn't waste their time or her own time.
It's sad that she (you?) seem to think that men are never interested in friendship, or that finding someone sexually attractive makes a friendship impossible. Too bad for those who simply get on better with the opposite sex right?
 
Considering something like 1/3rd of women have been raped, some of you are probably with women that never told anyone they were raped. My mom told me and my dad she was raped, but only once and never owned up to it again after that.

Most rape victims are literally perfectly normal acting afterwards.
That number must be off, but sure, never thought about it that way. Of course, there's a difference between those who have moved on and those that haven't been able to. If it's not a problem for her or the relationship, that's one thing, but I don't want to risk hurting someone even more if they haven't healed emotionally (if there is such a thing), you know? :)
 
I just want her to feel better, let her know I love her and I forgive her. I keep saying this, but she's still depressed. And I figure this will last for a couple more days

I don't know your background story, but she's the one who cheated on you and THEN she tells you she's suicidal? So, she bangs some other dude and then has the balls to put out a cry for help to you?

You sound like a good guy here man, and if you love her then you'll do what you've gotta, but she needs to realize that she can't do that to you. She needs to get herself right if she wants to make things better, and rest assured, IT'S UP TO HER TO PROVE TO YOU THAT SHE CAN DO IT.
If she can't, then I'd advise you to tell some of her close friends/family (yeah, I know it'll make her feel worse, but I'm sharing with you right now, not her) and then GTFO. You DO NOT want to be saddled with this for life.
 
Thank you all for your replys and thoughts. GAF always helps.

I talked to her today, I forgave her. She says she wont talk or hang out with "Martin" anymore.

All day it felt like I had baggage left over, stomach having a tight knot in it, shacking, weak - even though I forgave her for what she did.

That feeling is gone now. I do have images of her and this guy in my head and it's sickening.. It's hard for me to even picture her holding hands with another man. How do I stop this? Just keep talking to her, remember the times we had, and our future together?

I am fully committed to leaving everything behind and being with her.

I won't get to see her again for 3 months from today. She says we'll get through it together, but man, I don't know if I can take much more.

End it. Do it for yourself. I know its hard, but she isn't the only girl in the world. You need to step back and see her for what she is, not how she 'made' you feel.

Anyways, I hope you take this advice.
 
It's sad that she (you?) seem to think that men are never interested in friendship

It's sad that you think they ever are. Only reason a guy ever becomes your friend (assuming you're remotely attractive), is because they're hoping though friendship they can eventually bang you in a moment of weakness. There are no threads titled "Friendship-Age, How to find female friends". No guy cares about that. Sorry to burst your naive little bubble.

EDIT: in b4 "dude I'm a guy and I have female friends and I meant it that way, I'm just nice bro, your view is messed up, yadda yadda"
 
It's sad that you think they ever are. Only reason a guy ever becomes your friend (assuming you're remotely attractive), is because they're hoping though friendship they can eventually bang you in a moment of weakness. There are no threads titled "Friendship-Age, How to find female friends". No guy cares about that. Sorry to burst your naive little bubble.

Come on, that is pretty ridiculous :p
My anecdote balances out yours - leaving shanshan correct.
 
It's sad that you think they ever are. Only reason a guy ever becomes your friend (assuming you're remotely attractive), is because they're hoping though friendship they can eventually bang you in a moment of weakness. There are no threads titled "Friendship-Age, How to find female friends". No guy cares about that. Sorry to burst your naive little bubble.

EDIT: in b4 "dude I'm a guy and I have female friends and I meant it that way, I'm just nice bro, your view is messed up, yadda yadda"

K well I'm going to go hang with my male friends now. You have fun living in the fifties.
 
Just thought its weird cause sometimes I log onto facebook and theres pictures of her hanging with her friends and she never tells me what they did etc etc. I usually never ask cause I don't want to be like I NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING but I also dont like being in the dark

It's normal.

That number must be off, but sure, never thought about it that way. Of course, there's a difference between those who have moved on and those that haven't been able to. If it's not a problem for her or the relationship, that's one thing, but I don't want to risk hurting someone even more if they haven't healed emotionally (if there is such a thing), you know? :)

It is a bit way off, but in the United States of America, 14.8% of women over 17 years of age reported having been raped in their lifetime (with an additional 2.8% having experienced attempted rape).
Sexual assault, harassment, and attempted versions of these - is much higher, of course.
 
K well I'm going to go hang with my male friends now. You have fun living in the fifties.

lol, nice reply

regarding "friends" - I have female acquantainces - girls I talk from time to time but I wouldn' t call them friends. Guys who fall into this category aren't friends too. Friends are people who I trust almost completely and can talk about personal subjects. If a female falls into this category I start develop romantic feelings, it's inevitable. I think any kind of serious friendship between the opposite sexes is either a start of a relationship (which might not develop into anythin) or a relationship.
 
It's sad that you think they ever are. Only reason a guy ever becomes your friend (assuming you're remotely attractive), is because they're hoping though friendship they can eventually bang you in a moment of weakness. There are no threads titled "Friendship-Age, How to find female friends". No guy cares about that. Sorry to burst your naive little bubble.

EDIT: in b4 "dude I'm a guy and I have female friends and I meant it that way, I'm just nice bro, your view is messed up, yadda yadda"

I think MVP comes off a bit brash and could have worded it a bit better but he is pretty much correct. I don't think the guy is consciously thinking of having sex with any women he sees but there is always a bit of sexual tension that's usually one-sided. Of course there are exceptions to everything and we're assuming that the woman is semi attractive. But in general, if a woman goes up to any one of her good guy friends and said, "You know, you've been such a great friend to me and it made me realize that I have feelings for you", I would say 99% of the time he will jump on that.
 
You know, males also say the old "I don't want our friendship ruined"-line.

How old are you guys?

EDIT: in b4 "whiteknight", I just don't like being the stereotype of all men being nothing but horndogs.
 
It's sad that you think they ever are. Only reason a guy ever becomes your friend (assuming you're remotely attractive), is because they're hoping though friendship they can eventually bang you in a moment of weakness. There are no threads titled "Friendship-Age, How to find female friends". No guy cares about that. Sorry to burst your naive little bubble.

EDIT: in b4 "dude I'm a guy and I have female friends and I meant it that way, I'm just nice bro, your view is messed up, yadda yadda"

Actually, having female friends is extremely helpful to many dudes. And not all dudes are giant walking penises with a plan to fuck all women.

Just because your edit is there doesn't mean that you're correct. But please do continue dispensing advice that's intended to distort the image of platonic friendship and attempt to make women uncomfortable around men.
 
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