Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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Geezus, Pastry, chill out a bit. She can text whomever she wants.. if your friends feel the same way you do, they can let her know they don't feel comfortable corresponding with her anymore and that's that. You don't own your friends though, obviously she had friendships with them as well. No reason to blow a gasket.

Also, I love how today's generation immediately run to the "I'ma blow my social networking site up so hard with pics and comments and likes! That'll show'em!" lol. Dunno how we survived without that stuff when I was a kid.. walking 10 miles in the snow...

The issue is that she is putting friends in shitty situations and creating a pity party for herself everytime she texts them. I have been dealing with these shenanigans for the past month while keeping it pretty cool, just kind of needed to blow off some steam somewhere whether my anger was justified or not. All done, thanks GAF.
 
Dating-GAF. Kind of need some help!

I'm interested in a girl I've seen a few times now, the only issue is that she's incredibly frigid and therefore it's really difficult for me to make any sort of move on her. Any advice for dealing with frigid & inexperienced girls? I know I'm not the only one who has had this issue with her as the guy who put us in contact gave up because she he found it too difficult to get close/intimate.

EDIT: I should preface that this is really weird for me because I usually somehow end up going for the confident/more aggressive girls so I'm completely out of my depth here but yeah, this girl seems awesome.
 
That's not even an issue or something that would ever happen. These people are truly my best friends and the salt of the earth. They have nothing but my best interest and health in mind, I have been through a lot with them. She is just texting crazy shit to them about being sorry about breaking up with me and hoping they can still be friends. She thinks that WE can still be friends haha.

HAHA, I like this attitude. You will be right as rain in another month.

I remember with my ex I was thinking...man..Should I call her..should I break no contact...then when I heard through a friend that my ex told my friend that she really wanted to "be friends" I went ballistic (mentally).

And once that passed. I mentally checked out and it was a glorious moment.
 
Alcohol, pot or ecstasy.

For both of you.

HAHA, I like this attitude. You will be right as rain in another month.

I remember with my ex I was thinking...man..Should I call her..should I break no contact...then when I heard through a friend that my ex told my friend that she really wanted to "be friends" I went ballistic (mentally).

And once that passed. I mentally checked out and it was a glorious moment.

Well, alcohol was pretty much the reason I posted that long rambling rant last night haha. But yeah I have been drinking like a fish with friends and having an awesome time. I just needed to get that off my chest. I honestly have no desire to contact her, I just get frustrated at times and need to vent. Luckily for y'all GAF was the closest thing I had at 1:30 last night.
 
Ok so saw this BEAUTIFUL girl today, she lives in my friends guesthouse. Talked to her today for the first time, got her number at the end. Where do I go from here? I'm thinking that I already got friendzoned since she's a pretty friendly girl but still, what should my next step be? I'm asking cuz I haven't been successful for a long time when it comes to long term relationships since I ALWAYS end up getting friendzoned.

Help me gaf I'm rusty :(
 
Ok so saw this BEAUTIFUL girl today, she lives in my friends guesthouse. Talked to her today for the first time, got her number at the end. Where do I go from here? I'm thinking that I already got friendzoned since she's a pretty friendly girl but still, what should my next step be? I'm asking cuz I haven't been successful for a long time when it comes to long term relationships since I ALWAYS end up getting friendzoned.

Help me gaf I'm rusty :(

Stop being so negative about it. You did great. You approached a girl AND you got her number. That's a lot further than many others here.

Now, when a girl gives you her number, you call her the next day. She WANTS you to call. She's looking forward to getting your call. Don't play games with her and wait til the weekend or something. Call her tomorrow. Then you can make plans for something casual for the weekend, or even an evening you're both free.
 
Stop being so negative about it. You did great. You approached a girl AND you got her number. That's a lot further than many others here.

Now, when a girl gives you her number, you call her the next day. She WANTS you to call. She's looking forward to getting your call. Don't play games with her and wait til the weekend or something. Call her tomorrow. Then you can make plans for something casual for the weekend, or even an evening you're both free.

I've never had problems approaching girls and getting their numbers but I always fuck it up later somehow and get myself friendzoned. Though what's making me think again about this is that when she was about to leave she didn't try to mention her number so I asked for it but she kept asking if I'll come over again and be around (since I live 40 mins away by train). Tbh I don't think she's the kind of girl who'd like to get calls, people usually here just txt or email but we'll see what happens.
 
Ok so saw this BEAUTIFUL girl today, she lives in my friends guesthouse. Talked to her today for the first time, got her number at the end. Where do I go from here? I'm thinking that I already got friendzoned since she's a pretty friendly girl but still, what should my next step be? I'm asking cuz I haven't been successful for a long time when it comes to long term relationships since I ALWAYS end up getting friendzoned.

Help me gaf I'm rusty :(

Give her a call tomorrow (and if you just don't have the nuevos, a text....but consider calling).

Try and set something up!

"Hey, this is [Insert name]...Whats up?! Yeah, Im seeing if you want to grab drinks sometime next week."

If she says no, be cool, and say...no worries I hope you have a good weekend.

if she says yes, then set it up.

Done and done.
 
Well, alcohol was pretty much the reason I posted that long rambling rant last night haha. But yeah I have been drinking like a fish with friends and having an awesome time. I just needed to get that off my chest. I honestly have no desire to contact her, I just get frustrated at times and need to vent. Luckily for y'all GAF was the closest thing I had at 1:30 last night.

Bwahahaaha, that stuff works wonders...Not in the "zomg, I love alcohol," but in the, Im out with my friends having a great time. Kind of thing.

Good work.
 
Give her a call tomorrow (and if you just don't have the nuevos, a text....but consider calling).

Try and set something up!

"Hey, this is [Insert name]...Whats up?! Yeah, Im seeing if you want to grab drinks sometime next week."

If she says no, be cool, and say...no worries I hope you have a good weekend.

if she says yes, then set it up.

Done and done.

See that's the problem. That's what I've always been doing and every girl just thought it was a friend who wanted to hang out with a new friend. That's why I want to avoid this this time.
 
Stop being so negative about it. You did great. You approached a girl AND you got her number. That's a lot further than many others here.

Now, when a girl gives you her number, you call her the next day. She WANTS you to call. She's looking forward to getting your call. Don't play games with her and wait til the weekend or something. Call her tomorrow. Then you can make plans for something casual for the weekend, or even an evening you're both free.

This.
 
See that's the problem. That's what I've always been doing and every girl just thought it was a friend who wanted to hang out with a new friend. That's why I want to avoid this this time.

What's so bad about making a new friend? How come guys don't want to make female friends? =(
 
See that's the problem. That's what I've always been doing and every girl just thought it was a friend who wanted to hang out with a new friend. That's why I want to avoid this this time.

Its not in the approach of electronic communication....Its once you get there you are getting "friend-zoned.

Apparently once you hang out, you are not staying on the radar as a potential interest.

Edit: In other words, if the time is right...make a move...
 
The male ego can't handle a situation in which a woman doesn't want him, and dicks don't let most dudes only go as far as befriending an attractive, interesting woman.

This is basically what I was alluding to. I realize this is the dating thread, but a lot of relationships spark from friendships. Not to mention most of the stories posted here are about meeting women in casual settings like school, not at bars or clubs where it might be more apparent what both parties are looking for. If there's an interesting girl at work or school, try befriending them like anyone else, not creating an imaginary ultimatum of romance or nothing.
 
This is basically what I was alluding to. I realize this is the dating thread, but a lot of relationships spark from friendships. Not to mention most of the stories posted here are about meeting women in casual settings like school, not at bars or clubs where it might be more apparent what both parties are looking for. If there's an interesting girl at work or school, try befriending them like anyone else, not creating an imaginary ultimatum of romance or nothing.

Jabo: I doubt you're going to listen to posters who pretty much call you dumb or chauvinistic, but just in case, ignore the above post.
 
Dating-GAF. Kind of need some help!

I'm interested in a girl I've seen a few times now, the only issue is that she's incredibly frigid and therefore it's really difficult for me to make any sort of move on her. Any advice for dealing with frigid & inexperienced girls? I know I'm not the only one who has had this issue with her as the guy who put us in contact gave up because she he found it too difficult to get close/intimate.

EDIT: I should preface that this is really weird for me because I usually somehow end up going for the confident/more aggressive girls so I'm completely out of my depth here but yeah, this girl seems awesome.


if you're talking about a your place/her place scenario, leave, if it's her house, kick her out a few minutes later if it's yours. But don't be mean about it, just say "hey I gotta get some sleep, I/You should get going." Just be care-free about it.


If you're talking about on a date, it's simple, stop going out on dates.


She either jumps on you for you to stay, or you get 8 hours of sleep and stop wasting your time. Win-Win.
 
if you're talking about a your place/her place scenario, leave, if it's her house, kick her out a few minutes later if it's yours. But don't be mean about it, just say "hey I gotta get some sleep, I/You should get going." Just be care-free about it.


If you're talking about on a date, it's simple, stop going out on dates.


She either jumps on you for you to stay, or you get 8 hours of sleep and stop wasting your time. Win-Win.

Yeah I was kind of hoping that an ultimatum situation wasn't the only way to go about it. It is a rather unelegant answer but i suppose it's probably the only one.
 
This is basically what I was alluding to. I realize this is the dating thread, but a lot of relationships spark from friendships. Not to mention most of the stories posted here are about meeting women in casual settings like school, not at bars or clubs where it might be more apparent what both parties are looking for. If there's an interesting girl at work or school, try befriending them like anyone else, not creating an imaginary ultimatum of romance or nothing.

This is my case exactly...was friends with my girlfriend for 1.5 years (we met since we're co-wokers) prior to us taking the plunge into the relationship stage.

Probably the best relationship I've ever had, and it didn't happen intentionally or forced. We just got closer and closer as friends and realized we have something more than that.

This is a little different though from what others are saying. If you try to get a relationship with someone and then get friendzoned, you won't exactly see much of a chance at going backwards to the relationship stage again. So I think that's where some here are saying they aren't seeking friends out of dating.

On the other hand, I ruined 2 friendships with girls back in high school due to trying to become more than friends with close female friends. I didn't do anything weird, just expressed more interest in them and tried some dates. It didn't work, and our friendships became awkward and we no longer talk. I was really afraid to try this with my current girlfriend, but apparently she was the right one because she had the exact same feelings as me. High school isn't exactly the same as adulthood, but just an example of how it can't be forced if you're going to "upgrade" from friends to dating.
 
The male ego can't handle a situation in which a woman doesn't want him, and dicks don't let most dudes only go as far as befriending an attractive, interesting woman.

Seems like you're talking from your own behavior and experience but I'm glad I'm not like that, my female friends outnumber my male ones actually and I don't see any problems with that. My issue is that I've just hit a phase where I just don't want to know new people (except if it's a potential relationship) maybe I'm going nuts or something.


Jabo: I doubt you're going to listen to posters who pretty much call you dumb or chauvinistic, but just in case, ignore the above post.

I love you. I gotta hang out with best-gaf sigh. lurked for ages and when I finally got the account I don't post there.
 
Ive been around here for a while but this is my first actual post. I am posting because I think things may be heading in a good direction for me with a girl for the first time in quite a while. Ive dated girls in the past and my longest relationship went about 1 1/2 years. after that ended (about 4 years ago) I have never seriously dated anyone again. I had had a few short term relationships but nothing that I fully committed to.

I recently moved to a new city and was pretty excited to meet some new girls after being stuck in the same group of people for quite some time. Last weekend I was working at a music festival all weekend interviewing the artists that were playing. I got paired up with this girl who I go to school with and had met before but didnt really know. We spent the whole weekend together at the fest due to having to work together. they were long days from about 11am-10pm and then we would go out to drink at the after parties and not get home until about 5am every night.

The first night we went out to a club, had a good time with the other people who were working at the fest but nothing major happened. the second night we went out we got to hang out with one of the artists at the after party and then an after party to the after party (it was an unreal night). on the way to the club the second night she got in the car after getting off the phone and seemed a little upset. I asked if she was alright and gave the typical "yeah, fine." after a few minutes she asked if I had a girlfriend and I said no and then asked if she had a boyfriend. she said yeah thats who she was talking to on the phone. she explained that the relationship was pretty much over and they had checked out about 6 months ago and they live on opposite sides of the country. we talked for a few minutes about relationships and that was that. we had a great time that night at the club and after parties but nothing really seemed to be going on between us.

The third night out is where things started to take a turn I believe. we went out again after the fest to another after party which was one of the headliners playing at a local venue. she was hesitant to go out because she had stuff to do the next day but ended up coming and staying the whole time. after the show she drove me and my other buddy who was working the fest back to my place. before we went back we stopped at a local bar that was open until 4 and got a few drinks. after the bar we headed back to my place for about 30 mins and she decided it was time for her to head home. I told her I would walk her back to her car because it was late and we live in a big city (chicago). on the walk back we started talking about just random stuff. relationships, life problems, life styles, friends, things of that nature. we ended up walking a few blocks past her car but she said it was cool because she was enjoying the walk. she said a few times that we are really alike and were getting along well. after we got to her car I gave her a hug and told her id love to get together again soon and she agreed.

she was leaving to new york two days later for a week so I assumed I wouldnt see her until after. she ended up sending me a text after she got home saying she was home safe, really enjoyed getting to know me and wants to hang out. I said that I wanted to as well and she replied asking to hang out the next day before she left. I of course said yes and the next night she came over at about 10pm. when she got to my place I suggested that we go on a walk and just talk and she agreed. we ended up walking around my neighborhood for about 1 1/2 hours talking and getting to know each other. right when we walked out the door she brought up her current relationship and said that she is glad she is going to be single soon so I was happy to hear that. we didnt really talk more about that after that. at some point she was telling me about her artwork and told me she would show me her first painting she did in 3rd grade if I would play a song on guitar for her. I agreed and we both held up our end of the deal. her painting blew my mind (it was crazy good for a 3rd grader) and when I played a song I wrote she said that her mind was also blown. we talked for a little while longer at my place and then she had to take off to get some sleep for her trip.

The big thing is that the time we spent walking around and talking I felt like we connected really well and she was the first person in a lonnnnnggg time that I actually felt truly interested in. she wasnt some shallow chick who cares about dumb superficial shit but has depth in intelligence and is a comfortable person to be with. once we got back from the walk I told her to give me a call when she gets back and she told me to just text her the next day so she has company during the drive. we ended up sending about 60 texts back and fourth through out the day. Im not sure where things are headed exactly but I feel like I dont want to make her feel like she is jumping from one relationship from another. at the same time I want to try to develop something. Im just not sure how to handle it from here, as of now I think I am just going to continue to try to hang out with her as much as I can. any advice on how to avoid crashing and burning before I really even get off the ground?

Edit: sorry about the long post. I kinda rambled a bit
 
The more of you guys say that guys should get the numbers and call the next day, the fewer women are gonna call you first. They want you to call because you don't give the chance to call you. Yeah, women want to get drinks but they also just want to bone you which you tend to talk them out of if you continue to ask them for permission to take them out for drinks "sometime next week". Dating has been done to death and the only reason most guys continue to do them is because they don't see any other way. And women say yes to them because they never meet anyone different. Stop the madness.

Humanbear: Rebound relationship. You sound infatuated already, cool off. Strike while the iron is hot too. I see nothing about getting physical yet, change that asap. You won't be able to talk her into bed, most guys talk them out of it, like I said.
 

This is a tough one. It's hard to "stop" your feelings when they are going off like they are right now, especially when it certainly seems like she's reciprocating. It was a good sign that she says her other relationship is ending, and all signs are positive if she wasn't in a relationship already, but you need to be a little cautious about this. She's not completely out of that relationship, and even when she is she could end up realizing she still has feelings for the other guy and wants to go back to him, and you'll get burned. Additionally, you don't want to become the shoulder to cry on. Or the person she vents to when he makes her angry. Or the guy she turns to when she doesn't get the kind of attention she should be getting from her current bf. It's very easy for that to happen in the scenario you're in right now.

I've been in this type of situation twice, actually. First time it ended HORRIBLY. I stayed in contact with the girl for a few YEARS while she was in the process of breaking up with her current boyfriend. It was pathetic - every month she'd come up with another reason why she couldn't call it off - I am busy with school this month, we are going to a wedding this month, I think I want to give it a fair shot and try to fix it for my family blah blah blah. We hung out as if we were bf/gf, but she was still with the other guy, no end in sight for when she'd end it with him. And she complained about him all the time. How she was unhappy, how she needed to end it, how we were so much better together. I hung around for way too long and ended up getting hurt. She actually did end up breaking up with the guy, but by that time I had come to my senses and moved on.

Second time (yes, I got myself into this situation a second time) was with my current gf. She was breaking up with her live-in boyfriend when I met her and assured me it was all said and done, she just needed to find an apartment and move out. The difference here is that she had a date when she was moving out, and it was about 2 months in the future. I told myself to not get too close until she moved out and "officially" called it off. We remained friends, talked with regular frequency, never got physical (even though there were clear signs from both of us that we wanted to), and waited until she moved out. She moved out by the date she said, broke up with him in the process, and started seeing me. We've been together for about a year and a half now and things couldn't be better. Was it a rebound relationship - maybe. Did she jump from one relationship to another - well, sorta. She was checked out of the other relationship for a few months before we met, so in her mind she had already moved on months before I even met her.

So, my advice to you would be to take things slowly until she is officially done with her boyfriend. Hopefully you'll be able to pull out some info about when that time will be, but I wouldn't get into a relationship with her (even if it's not physical) until she's out of her other one first. Only she will know if she's ready to start something with you right after she ends it with her current bf, but just because she's seeing someone now doesn't mean you can't start seeing her right after she ends it with the current guy. Just make sure you don't get strung along, and don't jump headfirst into this and start acting like she was your gf until she's done-done with that other relationship.
 
Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it. I just don't really want to talk about what's going on between us with my other friends right now so I figured gaf would be a good option.

She did tell me that they both have been pretty much checked out of the relationship for a few months now and it will officially be ending very very soon. Like with in a week or so.
 
Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it. I just don't really want to talk about what's going on between us with my other friends right now so I figured gaf would be a good option.

She did tell me that they both have been pretty much checked out of the relationship for a few months now and it will officially be ending very very soon. Like with in a week or so.

Exercise caution, but early congrats...it sounds like you've found a gal that is interesting to you and interested in you.
 
Alcohol, pot or ecstasy.

For both of you.
I must admit, but ecstasy definitely destroys all anxiety for a few hours. As someone with OCD I was the happiest I've ever been, the biggest problem I had was the comedown (I was a bit suicidal since I couldn't face reality).

Not worth getting into for a variety if reasons, despite how amazing it feels.

It's a shame I didn't go to a club or whatever and chatted up girls during that time, since I don't have the courage to do that yet. The approach/initiation is the biggest thing holding me back, so I've got to find a way to break the barrier.
 
I actually really like making friends that are girls as much as romantic involvement. Less work, more fun, etc. There is a different dynamic in a friendship and its much easier if you never think about that next step or anything. Plenty of girls out there I don't see as a "girlfriend" worthy girl.
 
Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it. I just don't really want to talk about what's going on between us with my other friends right now so I figured gaf would be a good option.

She did tell me that they both have been pretty much checked out of the relationship for a few months now and it will officially be ending very very soon. Like with in a week or so.

Cool. The fact that she says she checked out is a good sign. Don't pressure her to break up with her bf, let her do that on her terms, but also make sure she understands that you're not moving forward with her until that happens. One thing that I did with my current gf that seemed to help is that I explained to her that I was interested in her but wouldn't be willing to get close until she was single. We stayed as friends until that happened. You'll respect each other more if you do it that way - you don't want to start anything with a girl who cheats on her boyfriend, no matter how checked out she is. Subconsciously you'll always wonder if she could do the same to you.
 
Man, I could really use some success.

Anyone else in a situation where it seems like you meet cool women everywhere but the town you live in? I've been single since high school (about 8 years now) and the only luck I've had is meeting a girl when I was back home, and meeting one when visiting friends over at another university. Odd thing was, that girl went to school where I did. She was my last best shot at a relationship but she moved to another state.

I have literally never had any luck in the town I live in, college town and all. It's extremely odd. I usually at least chat with women in other cities, but here it just seems like no one is interested in the slightest.

That's my deal right now. Finding someone to give me the light of day so I can at least ask them on a date. Gets frustrating after 8 years of bad to so-so luck.
 
I feel like I'm being too much of a nice guy with women. That girl keeps asking me to hold stuff for; I've called her out on it by askong if I'm her servant. No more being a doormat; I'm going to be more douchey and ignore that stuff when it happens. I'll play it of by saying that I'm checking my phone or look around.

Edit: More specific details later; on phone at the moment.
 
I feel like I'm being too much of a nice guy with women. That girl keeps asking me to hold stuff for; I've called her out on it by askong if I'm her servant. No more being a doormat; I'm going to be more douchey and ignore that stuff when it happens. I'll play it of by saying that I'm checking my phone or look around.

Edit: More specific details later; on phone at the moment.

If you read about S&M girl in Berlin in my travel thread, one thing I think I forgot to write about:

When we were walking around at night, the first night, she asked me to hold her phone for a second, and I took it reflexively, but she didn't actualy need her hands free to do anything, she just kept walking. I asked her, "wait, why am I holding your phone for you?" And she just postured a bit, clearly asserting her dom crap. So I took her phone, pulled the collar of her shirt out and dropped the phone down the back of her shirt.

Don't be a doormat, even with a dominatrix ;b
 
Man, I could really use some success.

Anyone else in a situation where it seems like you meet cool women everywhere but the town you live in? I've been single since high school (about 8 years now) and the only luck I've had is meeting a girl when I was back home, and meeting one when visiting friends over at another university. Odd thing was, that girl went to school where I did. She was my last best shot at a relationship but she moved to another state.

I have literally never had any luck in the town I live in, college town and all. It's extremely odd. I usually at least chat with women in other cities, but here it just seems like no one is interested in the slightest.

That's my deal right now. Finding someone to give me the light of day so I can at least ask them on a date. Gets frustrating after 8 years of bad to so-so luck.

Come out to Welch Ave. this weekend.

Ames sucks, sure. But you can make it work for you.
 
Man, I could really use some success.

Anyone else in a situation where it seems like you meet cool women everywhere but the town you live in? I've been single since high school (about 8 years now) and the only luck I've had is meeting a girl when I was back home, and meeting one when visiting friends over at another university. Odd thing was, that girl went to school where I did. She was my last best shot at a relationship but she moved to another state.

I have literally never had any luck in the town I live in, college town and all. It's extremely odd. I usually at least chat with women in other cities, but here it just seems like no one is interested in the slightest.

That's my deal right now. Finding someone to give me the light of day so I can at least ask them on a date. Gets frustrating after 8 years of bad to so-so luck.
I could bold the entire post but that state of mind is keeping you where you're at. Stop the wanting, start the having! Getting some action isn't what life is about and it won't make you feel happier for very long. Replace your negative thoughts and statements with something more positive and you will reflect that outwards.
 
Dating-GAF. Kind of need some help!

I'm interested in a girl I've seen a few times now, the only issue is that she's incredibly frigid and therefore it's really difficult for me to make any sort of move on her. Any advice for dealing with frigid & inexperienced girls? I know I'm not the only one who has had this issue with her as the guy who put us in contact gave up because she he found it too difficult to get close/intimate.
Avoid them! I tried that route, and for good reason it's a source of SMH for me and jests by my friends. Never again. :p

Avoid ice queens and prudes, and especially avoid prudish ice queens.
 
Cool. The fact that she says she checked out is a good sign. Don't pressure her to break up with her bf, let her do that on her terms, but also make sure she understands that you're not moving forward with her until that happens. One thing that I did with my current gf that seemed to help is that I explained to her that I was interested in her but wouldn't be willing to get close until she was single. We stayed as friends until that happened. You'll respect each other more if you do it that way - you don't want to start anything with a girl who cheats on her boyfriend, no matter how checked out she is. Subconsciously you'll always wonder if she could do the same to you.

I think thats the route im gonna have to take. I wouldnt let her do anything until its officially over. I wont really bring it up either unless she does but I do want her to know that I am interested. at this point I think we just need to hang out more and see if it's really the direction we both want things to go.
 
So I spoke with the girl in my chem class today, she asked me something about our previous prof and then I asked her name and introduced myself. She seemed to be looking at me every time I looked at her(maybe it just seemed this way), while we were in lab I overheard a conversation she had with another girl and it seemed to insinuate that she has a bf, I'm still going to ask her out though once I talk to her more.
 
If you read about S&M girl in Berlin in my travel thread, one thing I think I forgot to write about:

When we were walking around at night, the first night, she asked me to hold her phone for a second, and I took it reflexively, but she didn't actualy need her hands free to do anything, she just kept walking. I asked her, "wait, why am I holding your phone for you?" And she just postured a bit, clearly asserting her dom crap. So I took her phone, pulled the collar of her shirt out and dropped the phone down the back of her shirt.

Don't be a doormat, even with a dominatrix ;b
Yup, I read about that one Boss; I've been lurking in the thread the whole time. That was a funny story. It's funny that you mention that because she was annoyed that I placed the bottle in her bag in a "wrong" position so she moved into a position that she was comfortable with. When I called her out on it, she got scared. I told a friend of mines about this and he told to just flat out say no to her the next time she tries to make me hold something for her. It's happened to me before; I was talking to a girl that used to be in my painting class, when she answered a phone call and went into a full conversation. About 30 seconds later, once I realized she wasn't going to hang up, I left.

At the same time, she's still showing interest (or so I think; I think it might be a farce) in that she asked me for my number again because she lost it as well as wanting to be part of a show that I'm thinking of applying for the school's radio station. She also told me to text her whenever there's free food at an event (yeah, I don't think so).

On the other hand, part of me thinks that she's just using me her to show her the ins and outs of the school buildings since she transferred in this semester because she keeps referring to me as her tour guide which I definitely am not. If my hunch is right, then I'm just going to flat out ignore her for the rest of the semester because it's not worth my time if she thinks she can step over me and use me for her own personal gain.

EDIT: Roll the dice Wizard, just don't let walk her walk all over you as I'm learning first hand.
 
Alright so this is my first time posting in dating age.

I have always been confident when talking to women I am interested in and always have been able to hold a conversation without a problem.

However I seem to always have major trouble after a girl starts to show any interest back or start to have feelings. Once I realize that they start to have feelings for me it is almost as if my brain goes blank and I start to over think everything and never seem to say the right thing. It's like I become a nervous wreck as an completely different person from before.

What are some steps I can take to prevent this or try to remain confident?
 
Ive been pretty down for awhile now but I finally met a cute girl in my class she seemed really cool and we hit it off nicely but today in class I overheard some guy tell her about some guy and she responded that she was going to a concert with him this weekend. Hope dashed :( FML
 
Ive been pretty down for awhile now but I finally met a cute girl in my class she seemed really cool and we hit it off nicely but today in class I overheard some guy tell her about some guy and she responded that she was going to a concert with him this weekend. Hope dashed :( FML

Good lesson to learn from. Hop on the ball quicker the next time.
 
Good lesson to learn from. Hop on the ball quicker the next time.

That is actually part of my problem. How do you guys approach these things when you meet a girl? Don't you want to wait and find out if she is in a relationship first or if she likes another guy before asking her out or do you just go and put your bid in right there on the spot?
 
That is actually part of my problem. How do you guys approach these things when you meet a girl? Don't you want to wait and find out if she is in a relationship first or if she likes another guy before asking her out or do you just go and put your bid in right there on the spot?

whip it out and place it on the table
 
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