Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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So it's basically been made apparent to me that my worst fears are true, I'm am an ugly looking person. The main problem is usually there is no 'spark' or whatever and girls want to stay friends or still meet up and have fun or whatever but my looks are not attractive. I mean, what the fuck can I do. Ok, I'm not fat, i look after myself but I look like I've fallen out the ugly tree and hit a few branches on the way down. No amount of gym work will make my face more attractive. I'm fucking sick of it, seriously I'm so jealous of decent look people lol pathetic I know!

Attraction is not all about looks. It's to do with the way you carry yourself, how you make people feel. You don't have to look like a model to be attractive. Confidence is important (seriously I feel like I've said this a million times). Making people laugh is attractive. Don't worry so much about what people think of you. Honestly, I'd rather be with an average looking guy who had good banter than a hot guy who didn't.

Is there anything in particular you don't like about the way you look? Have you tried wearing different clothes, changing your hair, getting new glasses/switching to contact lenses etc?

Having moments of self doubt is totally normal, but you can't let it get the better of you. I know I'm not pretty, but fuck it, there's not anything I can really do about it. So I just focus on the parts of me that are good. And if other people don't appreciate that, well fuck em.
 
So, this may be a bit of a weird post and i'm probably going to regret posting this in the morning, but what the heck. :P

I'm sick for as long as I can remember and I am extremely limited in what I can do. No experience with love or dating whatsoever, i'm "only" eighteen and you don't really meet a lot of women when you're sick at home.
But I wonderd, what if I would meet someone someday, Joe knows how, and it clicked. Would it be selfish of me to ask for a date? And if that worked out, maybe even have the desire to begin/continue a relationship?
I've got a limited education, no job, no intresting live and can't really mean anything to her nor take good care of her since I can't really do much and heck, a date would already be an extreordinary achievement. To give you an idea, a friend came over last summer. First time in years something like that happend. For six hours he was here (record time!). Talked, ate and watched a movie, and i've felt that for the rest of the month. I was completely broken, it was that exhuasting.
So, the bottomline; would it be selfish of me for wanting somebody to love? Being sick doesn't stop the natural process of growing up and the wishes that go with it.

Apologies if there are some grammical faults in this post, English isn't my native language :P
 
Everyone deserves to be happy, man. It's not selfish at all.

Some day a girl will come along who loves you for everything you are. Hold onto her.
 
Hmm so not sure how to approach this. There was a big birthday party last night and I drunkenly asked one of my brother's friends to dinner sometime this week after hitting on her pretty much the entire night. The thing is we were both pretty damn drunk but I also got her number at some point in the night. I'm trying to figure out how to approach this since I'd still like to take her on a date but I have no way of knowing if she remembers me asking her haha.
 
Hmm so not sure how to approach this. There was a big birthday party last night and I drunkenly asked one of my brother's friends to dinner sometime this week after hitting on her pretty much the entire night. The thing is we were both pretty damn drunk but I also got her number at some point in the night. I'm trying to figure out how to approach this since I'd still like to take her on a date but I have no way of knowing if she remembers me asking her haha.

Who cares if she remembers? She gave you her number, meaning she finds you interesting. Call her!
 
Inexperienced/Never-had-a-girlfriend guy here.

I decided to get out of my shell and go out with my friends. I got slightly drunk and starting talking to this girl and I gave her my phone number(I didn't have my cell phone with me). She texted me so I now have her phone number.

When should I text her/call her?
 
Inexperienced/Never-had-a-girlfriend guy here.

I decided to get out of my shell and go out with my friends. I got slightly drunk and starting talking to this girl and I gave her my phone number(I didn't have my cell phone with me). She texted me so I now have her phone number.

When should I text her/call her?

Just be chill. Have something to do next weekend? Halloween party, movie premiere, rock climbing? When it gets to 2-3 days before, invite her.

She's not the only thing you have going on in your life, so don't make her feel otherwise by being aggressive. You just added someone cool who thinks you're cool too, with potential for something more, to your list of contacts. That's all it is for now, but you can and should build on it. Good work!
 
Inexperienced/Never-had-a-girlfriend guy here.

I decided to get out of my shell and go out with my friends. I got slightly drunk and starting talking to this girl and I gave her my phone number(I didn't have my cell phone with me). She texted me so I now have her phone number.

When should I text her/call her?

One day is too fast (you can come off as desperate), one week is too slow (interest fades). Somewhere between those.
 
Inexperienced/Never-had-a-girlfriend guy here.

I decided to get out of my shell and go out with my friends. I got slightly drunk and starting talking to this girl and I gave her my phone number(I didn't have my cell phone with me). She texted me so I now have her phone number.

When should I text her/call her?
Keep giving out your number, see how easy that was? And since she sent a text that quickly, chances are very good that she's interested. Don't bother with all the rules about when to call her. Since she's already reached out to you, just ask her when she wants to meet up, whenever you want. There's no reason to wait three days before contacting her or whatever.
 
Kinda of a random question. How do you know if you love someone rather than like them in a relationship? I've never been in love(forever alone ect) but my friend who's in his first relationship for a while now was asking. I had no idea honestly. So, is there any general consensus or just...you know?
 
Kinda of a random question. How do you know if you love someone rather than like them in a relationship? I've never been in love(forever alone ect) but my friend who's in his first relationship for a while now was asking. I had no idea honestly. So, is there any general consensus or just...you know?

You wait until the girl says it and then you say it back.

Addendum: If she says it so soon that it makes you feel uncomfortable, reconsider status.

;b
 
Kinda of a random question. How do you know if you love someone rather than like them in a relationship? I've never been in love(forever alone ect) but my friend who's in his first relationship for a while now was asking. I had no idea honestly. So, is there any general consensus or just...you know?

He'll know.
 
Ok the date I had tonight (with a different girl) was AWESOME. Was just at my home, drinking wine and wodka, but the conversations we had... man. We hit it off. Goddamnit. This was great. Yes. Alright.
 
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This guy should be an inspiration to all of Dating-age. Read more about him at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Stephenson

If even someone like him can find love (he's happily married) and have a love life, so the hell can you. So can we all. Even with all his health issues, he has been able to cope and develop his own carefree attitude to life and women. He was a video guest on Brent Smith's live stream a month or two ago. Yes, some of us preach hard about this self-help stuff and some of you believe it's all bullshit and are not willing to listen, but to me, he is probably the ultimate proof that this works. And it works great.

If he isn't a great example of what can happen when you set your mind to it, I don't know what is.

“Shy behavior is triggered the second we start thinking about ourselves. The moment we start thinking and acting selflessly, reaching out to help those around us, shyness subsides.”
- Sean Stephenson
 
Gotta admit, breaking out of my shell, doing something completely different, and getting a woman's phone number can be a huge confidence booster. I had one the best workouts ever, I felt super energetic and strong as fuck.
 
I sort of want to just get back together with my ex. We spoke a couple of times this week and it was probably the best that we've communicated all year. I think we really just didn't talk about our issues at all while we were together, so it just stewed to a point where I thought I needed a clean break but things could've been so much better if we talked.

Not sure what to do.
 
I sort of want to just get back together with my ex. We spoke a couple of times this week and it was probably the best that we've communicated all year. I think we really just didn't talk about our issues at all while we were together, so it just stewed to a point where I thought I needed a clean break but things could've been so much better if we talked.

Not sure what to do.
Why did you guys break up and who did it?
 
Why did you guys break up and who did it?

I broke it off. There were a lot of reasons, but the catalyst was that she asked me if I thought I was ready for an adult relationship and I knew I couldn't commit to her forever so I figured better to end it rather than just make it more painful later on.

I still wouldn't be able to say I could commit to her forever, but a lot of the issues we did have are easy fixes.
 
Gotta admit, breaking out of my shell, doing something completely different, and getting a woman's phone number can be a huge confidence booster. I had one the best workouts ever, I felt super energetic and strong as fuck.
Finally doing your name justice haha
 
I broke it off. There were a lot of reasons, but the catalyst was that she asked me if I thought I was ready for an adult relationship and I knew I couldn't commit to her forever so I figured better to end it rather than just make it more painful later on.

I still wouldn't be able to say I could commit to her forever, but a lot of the issues we did have are easy fixes.

Tough decision to make. Likely she will want a serious, adult relationship in time, and if you still aren't ready then you are sort of holding her back from moving forward. Certainly something to think about for a few days before making any decision.
 
Alright DatingGaf, I am deciding to try to get back into the game. Gonna start talking to more people and girls and hopefully my confident will improve!

So theres is girl I use to work with at my lifeguard job, but last talk i really talk to her was like summer of 11. but I sometimes give comments on her fb..thats not weird right? IDK i was always shy at work, but everyone always knew me as a "smart person" cause I spend alot of time on school and computer. What would be the best way to attempt to talk to her again?

Last thing I said to her was on her instagram. she posted a pic about doing school work on a friday night. I said thats what I did all weekend.
 
This guy should be an inspiration to all of Dating-age. Read more about him at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Stephenson

If even someone like him can find love (he's happily married) and have a love life, so the hell can you. So can we all. Even with all his health issues, he has been able to cope and develop his own carefree attitude to life and women. He was a video guest on Brent Smith's live stream a month or two ago. Yes, some of us preach hard about this self-help stuff and some of you believe it's all bullshit and are not willing to listen, but to me, he is probably the ultimate proof that this works. And it works great.

If he isn't a great example of what can happen when you set your mind to it, I don't know what is.

Depression and strong social anxiety are totally different beasts than any physical ailments. His success changes nothing for me. Stephen Hawking was married multiple times too, so what?

“Shy behavior is triggered the second we start thinking about ourselves. The moment we start thinking and acting selflessly, reaching out to help those around us, shyness subsides.”
- Sean Stephenson
What a stupid quote. Shy behavior (for me) is triggered because my heart is racing, I'm sweating like a madman and I don't feel in control of my arms and legs any more the second I set foot in a building or I try talking to anyone. Oh and my speech becoming slurred doesn't help either.
 
Hey. I've been a lurker in this thread and its previous incarnations for a long time, but I've never posted in one until now. I'll probably be ridiculed for posting this, but that's a chance I'll just have to take. So, my story in an abbreviated form is that I'm 22 and live in the UK. I'm also a virgin and have never actually passed what you guys would refer to as "first base" with a girl. The first thing I would like to mention is that, no, I am not gay. I'm tolerant and open minded, and have no problem with guys who are, but to put it simply, dudes don't turn me on at all. A few people have actually thought that I might be just because I've never had any sexual experience with women or had a girlfriend. I don't really understand the logic of that, but there you go. I also haven't exactly spent my life living under a rock or hiding from people. I've got this idea that the ability to attract girls isn't a life skill that can be learned, such as driving a car or playing an instrument. I think it's a character trait (I'm not sure what else to describe it as) that a guy either possesses or doesn't. I think it's innate. The guys who have this trait comprise the 95%+ of other guys around my age who have had multiple girlfriends and a shit-ton of sexual experience by this point in their lives. The remaining 5% or so are the guys who end up posting on the Internet whining about being virgins in their 20s, 30s or 40s and beyond in some cases. I'm extremely ashamed to count myself as a member of the latter group. Anyway, I actually saw a post on Reddit from a guy who claimed to be a 34 year old virgin. He explained that, one day, he just decided to get on a plane to Las Vegas and pay an escort to take his virginity. The dude said it was the greatest thing he had ever experienced in his life and he loved every second of it. He also said that he is able to come just by recalling the experience, without actually masturbating.

Inspired by Mr Not a 34 year old Virgin, I'm thinking that I may have to follow in that guy's footsteps and those of other people in a similar situation. I've no problem with going there on my own and looking after myself, but it would be my first time going to Vegas. I obviously don't know my way around the place. I do know that prostitution is legal in Nevada. I'd just be looking to stay out of trouble. It would be a significant amount of money for me factoring in the cost of flights, the money for the escort, hotel room and other miscellaneous expenses. I was wondering if any GAFers have been to Vegas and partaken in activities of the nature I mentioned? Any advice for me? As I said, I just want to stay out of trouble and not get scammed or hustled. I just want to experience sex at least once before I die. Not that I'm in any imminent danger of dying, but whenever I hear or read news reports of people around my age dying, it just unsettles me. You never know what's going to happen, and every day that passes increases the possibility of me dying as a virgin. The thought of that happening is horrifying to me. It's on my mind all the time, to the extent that I can't concentrate on other things. I've essentially given up on ever getting laid via conventional means (i.e. dating/picking up women). That's pretty much it really. I guess I had better go prepare myself for the mockery-fest that will inevitably follow.
 
Someone asked in this thread before, and I advised against it.

If you're going to get laid because of the social status of losing your virginity (I'm sure you are), then getting laid by an escort won't get you anywhere. I mean, think about the guy you're describing. He's telling the story of being a 34-year old virgin and being able to orgasm without masturbating... on Reddit. Throughout that story (or at least what you've relayed of it), there is nothing about him improving his relations with people or women. He can now do less work when it comes to orgasms - that's great for him, but I don't think that's what you're looking for.

You're 22. You're still quite young and you still have the opportunity to change yourself, how you perceive yourself, and how others perceive you. If all else fails, it's not like you won't be able to find an escort when you're older. But don't deny yourself the chance to make moves while you're young. Stop comparing yourself to others your age - that's not a story you'd be able to brag to them about. They'll still one-up you, and while you may feel better sexually after that, you won't carry that into the long term. And you'll end up always paying for sex if you can't get out of that rut.
 
Hey. I've been a lurker in this thread and its previous incarnations for a long time, but I've never posted in one until now. I'll probably be ridiculed for posting this, but that's a chance I'll just have to take. So, my story in an abbreviated form is that I'm 22 and live in the UK. I'm also a virgin and have never actually passed what you guys would refer to as "first base" with a girl. The first thing I would like to mention is that, no, I am not gay. I'm tolerant and open minded, and have no problem with guys who are, but to put it simply, dudes don't turn me on at all. A few people have actually thought that I might be just because I've never had any sexual experience with women or had a girlfriend. I don't really understand the logic of that, but there you go. I also haven't exactly spent my life living under a rock or hiding from people. I've got this idea that the ability to attract girls isn't a life skill that can be learned, such as driving a car or playing an instrument. I think it's a character trait (I'm not sure what else to describe it as) that a guy either possesses or doesn't. I think it's innate. The guys who have this trait comprise the 95%+ of other guys around my age who have had multiple girlfriends and a shit-ton of sexual experience by this point in their lives. The remaining 5% or so are the guys who end up posting on the Internet whining about being virgins in their 20s, 30s or 40s and beyond in some cases. I'm extremely ashamed to count myself as a member of the latter group. Anyway, I actually saw a post on Reddit from a guy who claimed to be a 34 year old virgin. He explained that, one day, he just decided to get on a plane to Las Vegas and pay an escort to take his virginity. The dude said it was the greatest thing he had ever experienced in his life and he loved every second of it. He also said that he is able to come just by recalling the experience, without actually masturbating.

Inspired by Mr Not a 34 year old Virgin, I'm thinking that I may have to follow in that guy's footsteps and those of other people in a similar situation. I've no problem with going there on my own and looking after myself, but it would be my first time going to Vegas. I obviously don't know my way around the place. I do know that prostitution is legal in Nevada. I'd just be looking to stay out of trouble. It would be a significant amount of money for me factoring in the cost of flights, the money for the escort, hotel room and other miscellaneous expenses. I was wondering if any GAFers have been to Vegas and partaken in activities of the nature I mentioned? Any advice for me? As I said, I just want to stay out of trouble and not get scammed or hustled. I just want to experience sex at least once before I die. Not that I'm in any imminent danger of dying, but whenever I hear or read news reports of people around my age dying, it just unsettles me. You never know what's going to happen, and every day that passes increases the possibility of me dying as a virgin. The thought of that happening is horrifying to me. It's on my mind all the time, to the extent that I can't concentrate on other things. I've essentially given up on ever getting laid via conventional means (i.e. dating/picking up women). That's pretty much it really. I guess I had better go prepare myself for the mockery-fest that will inevitably follow.

First of all, having sex doesn't solve your problems.
I forgot his name, but there was a dude posting here who was in your shoes, had sex with a prostitute and admitted it didn't fix his problems.
Second, if you do insist in doing it, why Vegas? Just fly to Amsterdam man, way cheaper.
 
Hey. I've been a lurker in this thread and its previous incarnations for a long time, but I've never posted in one until now. I'll probably be ridiculed for posting this, but that's a chance I'll just have to take. So, my story in an abbreviated form is that I'm 22 and live in the UK. I'm also a virgin and have never actually passed what you guys would refer to as "first base" with a girl. The first thing I would like to mention is that, no, I am not gay. I'm tolerant and open minded, and have no problem with guys who are, but to put it simply, dudes don't turn me on at all. A few people have actually thought that I might be just because I've never had any sexual experience with women or had a girlfriend. I don't really understand the logic of that, but there you go. I also haven't exactly spent my life living under a rock or hiding from people. I've got this idea that the ability to attract girls isn't a life skill that can be learned, such as driving a car or playing an instrument. I think it's a character trait (I'm not sure what else to describe it as) that a guy either possesses or doesn't. I think it's innate. The guys who have this trait comprise the 95%+ of other guys around my age who have had multiple girlfriends and a shit-ton of sexual experience by this point in their lives. The remaining 5% or so are the guys who end up posting on the Internet whining about being virgins in their 20s, 30s or 40s and beyond in some cases. I'm extremely ashamed to count myself as a member of the latter group. Anyway, I actually saw a post on Reddit from a guy who claimed to be a 34 year old virgin. He explained that, one day, he just decided to get on a plane to Las Vegas and pay an escort to take his virginity. The dude said it was the greatest thing he had ever experienced in his life and he loved every second of it. He also said that he is able to come just by recalling the experience, without actually masturbating.

Inspired by Mr Not a 34 year old Virgin, I'm thinking that I may have to follow in that guy's footsteps and those of other people in a similar situation. I've no problem with going there on my own and looking after myself, but it would be my first time going to Vegas. I obviously don't know my way around the place. I do know that prostitution is legal in Nevada. I'd just be looking to stay out of trouble. It would be a significant amount of money for me factoring in the cost of flights, the money for the escort, hotel room and other miscellaneous expenses. I was wondering if any GAFers have been to Vegas and partaken in activities of the nature I mentioned? Any advice for me? As I said, I just want to stay out of trouble and not get scammed or hustled. I just want to experience sex at least once before I die. Not that I'm in any imminent danger of dying, but whenever I hear or read news reports of people around my age dying, it just unsettles me. You never know what's going to happen, and every day that passes increases the possibility of me dying as a virgin. The thought of that happening is horrifying to me. It's on my mind all the time, to the extent that I can't concentrate on other things. I've essentially given up on ever getting laid via conventional means (i.e. dating/picking up women). That's pretty much it really. I guess I had better go prepare myself for the mockery-fest that will inevitably follow.
I won't mock you.

Only advice I'll give you is to use a condom and have fun. Enjoy it, learn from it.

Try to go out in Vegas after the escort, I'm sure you'll feel different.
 
Cardshark950

Dude...I don't think you should do this? Some may disagree with me but I think you're showing huge weakness here. You're basically convincing yourself that you're incapable of meeting women normally. That's not true. You're incapable if you think you are and you allow yourself to be!

I think you should give yourself a chance and go meet girls. Its as easy as joining a group, club, or just talking to them at school. You're 22 so I assume you've finished uni by now? You're analyzing things too much and placing yourself at a disadvantage. You'll feel better and more accomplished if you do things the "right" way.

And also, sex does not equal happiness at all. Better to learn how to interact with women than just bang a prostitute. Its a life skill that you'll need in the future. I used to know a person who was exactly in your position. He screwed up with a prostitute and to this day still has problems meeting women. He's completely in his own world. This is just the short version.

HOWEVER, if you're dead-set on this then have fun!! And as someone else suggested, go to Amsterdam. Closer to you and also much nicer. Purchase thicker condoms and be careful about what you do.

Consider what I said.
 
Lol, card. 22 is so stupidly young. I know plenty of people who lost their virginity after 22, some who chose to wait that long and some who didn't. Either way you're no where near any last resort type situation. Though England is pretty dangerous..
 
I really appreciate your advice guys. Thanks. I'm still kind of recovering from the embarrassment of posting what I said.

Lol, card. 22 is so stupidly young. I know plenty of people who lost their virginity after 22, some who chose to wait that long and some who didn't. Either way you're no where near any last resort type situation. Though England is pretty dangerous..

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why this has become such an urgent issue for me. Where I am in particular is very rough. Very high murder rates, shootings, stabbings, robberies, violent crimes etc. I'm just lucky that I haven't been in the wrong place at the wrong time, I guess.
 
I really appreciate your advice guys. Thanks. I'm still kind of recovering from the embarrassment of posting what I said.



Yeah, that's one of the reasons why this has become such an urgent issue for me. Where I am in particular is very rough. Very high murder rates, shootings, stabbings, robberies, violent crimes etc. I'm just lucky that I haven't been in the wrong place at the wrong time, I guess.

In all seriousness, a tree could fall on you tomorrow. You can't live life thinking what if constantly.
 
Guys, what does it mean to have chemistry? I mean, yes, I understand what it is, but is it something that you develop immediately with someone, or can it grow over time?
 
Guys, what does it mean to have chemistry? I mean, yes, I understand what it is, but is it something that you develop immediately with someone, or can it grow over time?

From my experience, you either have it or you don't and I notice it in the first 10 minutes with the girl. I don't think chemistry can really grow over time.

However I don't believe you need perfect chemistry to succeed in a relationship. I know several very different people with not much chemistry who have been dating for years and years, some even 20+ years.
 
Cardshark - I was 22 when I lost my virginity, have you tried online dating?

Tough decision to make. Likely she will want a serious, adult relationship in time, and if you still aren't ready then you are sort of holding her back from moving forward. Certainly something to think about for a few days before making any decision.

I don't think I'm not ready, I just don't want to regret using more of my youth to be young and stupid, date more people. On the other hand, it's sort of eating me up inside not being with her.
I have sort of a project I'm doing around the house over the next while. I'll put it out of my mind until I'm done that, save any decisions for later.
 
Depression and strong social anxiety are totally different beasts than any physical ailments. His success changes nothing for me. Stephen Hawking was married multiple times too, so what?


What a stupid quote. Shy behavior (for me) is triggered because my heart is racing, I'm sweating like a madman and I don't feel in control of my arms and legs any more the second I set foot in a building or I try talking to anyone. Oh and my speech becoming slurred doesn't help either.
Both these statements just prove that you shouldn't be in this thread, because finding dates won't solve your issues. Yes, social anxiety and having every bone in your body break when you are born are very different. There's only one person complaining about it though. One person has done something about it and overcome it. I don't know why you are shy, but usually the anxiety and shyness that guys feel around women and talk about in here, are based on wanting something. Yours sound different from that and dating-age isn't qualified in helping you with something so severe as it sounds more medical or something. If you are depressed, talk to psychiatrist, not gaf. And trying to solve it with girls doesn't work either (not saying that's what you're doing but still).
 
I really appreciate your advice guys. Thanks. I'm still kind of recovering from the embarrassment of posting what I said.



Yeah, that's one of the reasons why this has become such an urgent issue for me. Where I am in particular is very rough. Very high murder rates, shootings, stabbings, robberies, violent crimes etc. I'm just lucky that I haven't been in the wrong place at the wrong time, I guess.

Don't be too embarassed, I've thought about the same thing. Didn't so it though and finally lost my virginity in a drunken one night stand at 27 with a girl that I didn't care about and it didn't help me one bit.

Luckily I've gotten over my biggest problems and gotten in a relationship with a great girl. But I was already enjoying y life before I met her, which is important.
 
Been exchanging messages with this foreign girl who's in the area and more recently it escalated to exchanging phone numbers and IMing, though the conversation's been kinda plain so far.
We were to meet saturday at a bar but it got posponed to tomorrow, and while confirming the details for tomorrow the conversation took off in some colorful directions, which is making the whole thing feel more interesting - part of it was triggered by this funny pic I saw on FB I shared with her one one other was oddly triggered by something I recently read on GAF, so I guess I should be thankful for my recently adjusted browsing habits, but no such crutch tomorrow beyond my memory, some inpiration and probably a beer before I head out to loosen up (not driving, no car).
Not quite a blind date, but this sort is situation is kinda new to me - the closest I've been to it involved something more specific like a movie (a bad a idea for reason often mention here, 'twas years ago).

There's so little between my brain and my mouth and so much has managed to go wrong between them over the years, I hope age feels like pacifying their inoportune saboteur tendencies. The experience alone can be important, but I'd rather have it be a good one.
 
Could use some advice GAF. Got a number from a girl on Saturday night that is an acquaintance. She's a friend and coworker of my brother and some other friends and we all end up going out on the weekends and I have been hitting on her pretty shamelessly recently. Sunday rolls around and I felt like continuing drinking so I sent her a text and she was like yeah I'm having some friends (that I know) over and then we are going to a haunted house. I go over we all drink for a while and head to the haunted house, at the house she closes her eyes and latches on to me through a section. I'm pretty sure she is interested at this point. I take her back to her place after and we continue to drink for around two more hours while I hit on her some more. I left after a while since it was late and we both have work.

I'm going to shoot her a text tomorrow to strike up some more conversation. The thing is I would like to ask her out to dinner and I'm figuring out how to do this. I won't see her next weekend during Halloween celebrations since my brother and I are leaving town to party with some friends. Should I wait until I see her next to ask or keep conversation going and cold call her (or ask through flirtatious text messaging) at the beginning of next week and ask if she wants to grab dinner?
 
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