One of the coolest shots in the trailer imo.
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One of the coolest shots in the trailer imo.
KDash31987
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Sweeney Tom
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Was the Cyborg movie cancelled?
KDash31987
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MHWilliams
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Not yet.
KDash31987
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Thank you, can we now put to bed that those are tattoos and that it isn't Superman?
They're just scan lines from the hologram following the contour of the 3d model's leg. You can see them moving in the shot as well. Bruce is studying that bio son.
EDIT - The more I view that scene... I think it may be a video message that Bruce is playing back. Maybe Clark recorded it and stored it on the old Kyrptonian ship or hid it somewhere for Lois to find? It's kind of odd that a hologram in which Bruce would be studying for biology needs would have the full animated cape and his supersuit on. I really think he's watching a video message.
Smokey_Run
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Wait... people didn't realize it was a scan line or similar effect from the hologram?
Read that OT thread... it's a nightmare. Everything from tattoos to the leg not looking "masculine" enough so it must be Supergirl... I'm like, c'mon people you can't be that stupid.
Smokey_Run
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People always looking for stuff that just isn't there in these things.
BadAss2961
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Funny thing is, there's an explanation of why it could be Supergirl. Darkseid and Steppenwolf first invaded Earth thousands of years ago and were fought off.
In the lore of Man of Steel, Kara landed on Earth thousands of years ago in the scout ship. There's an empty pod on that scout ship.
In that same scene we see Bruce standing in front of a mother box. Perhaps the hologram is a historical record of how they stopped the invasion last time?
In the lore of Man of Steel, Kara landed on Earth thousands of years ago in the scout ship. There's an empty pod on that scout ship.
In that same scene we see Bruce standing in front of a mother box. Perhaps the hologram is a historical record of how they stopped the invasion last time?
Smokey_Run
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It's possible.
TropicalFish
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I'm guessing from that trailer that Steppenwolf first arrives on earth via Themyscira, decimating Hippolyta's forces before going for Atlantis and then the rest of the league.
Wonder Woman 2 will therefore probably be Diana trying to find her way back to Themyscira (assuming her mother telling her she may never return was actually true) to make sure her homeland wasn't completely destroyed by Steppenwolf. It could also answer how Steve and the Germans were able to get to Themyscira in the first movie.
Wonder Woman 2 will therefore probably be Diana trying to find her way back to Themyscira (assuming her mother telling her she may never return was actually true) to make sure her homeland wasn't completely destroyed by Steppenwolf. It could also answer how Steve and the Germans were able to get to Themyscira in the first movie.
That's an awesome take. I fully endorse this idea.
BadAss2961
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I'm pretty sure it's her after seeing that gif. The cape, the boots, the colors. It's Superman's clothing with a girl's leg.
The hologram looks straight out of Injustice 2 Supergirl.
Smokey_Run
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Hasn't most of the speculation for WW2 centered on it being another period piece set in the 80s?
GOD DAMMIT!!! You're probably right... Fuuuuuuuuuuck. I didn't do my frame by frame breakdown of the trailer yet and I missed that both of those scenes are in the same place... FUUUUUUUUUU!
Now I look like a dummy. I was wondering how Bruce was viewing a hologram, since it didn't appear he was in the Batcave there. Damn that's good stuff.
Her trying to return to Thermyscira in the present day would work as bookends for the movie.
Future Foundation
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How exactly can you tell it's a "girl's figure"? You don't see anything other than half of the back of a leg?
TropicalFish
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I'm not here for another period piece so I don't believe any of those news reports lol.
I can KINDA see where people are pulling it from, but I thought it was a stretch due to the angle/rotating camera and the contour lines causing a slimming effect on the model. But it's where the back of the knee is (more specifically the width of the knee above the calf)... It does looks a little more "slim" than what Cavill's looks like.
KDash31987
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Yup, that whole Kara thing is from the prequel comic, written by Zack Snyder, David S. Goyer, and Geoff Johns.
I can't remember where I saw it, but I have seen a theory before that we might see her in the flashback. It'd be pretty cool to see Supergirl there, though I would still prefer to get her in the present with Superman and the Justice League...but I'll take what I can get.
BadAss2961
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Look at it... Cavill's legs aren't so thin. Plus there's a pattern which Superman doesn't have.
Either the hologram isn't scaled perfectly, or it's Supergirl.
How the hell did I not know about this comic??!?? I kept wondering where everyone was getting this Supergirl stuff from. I figured it was just a theory that people went with.
TropicalFish
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I don't know why people in the comic con trailer thread are complaining about cgi battles.
What else were they expecting from a film adaptation of the Justice League superhero comics? They aren't exactly grounded in realism lmfao.
What else were they expecting from a film adaptation of the Justice League superhero comics? They aren't exactly grounded in realism lmfao.
I love that the first 30 seconds of the trailer is just Wonder Woman being cool.
WB knows where their bread is buttered now.
WB knows where their bread is buttered now.
Just going by what we've seen of the potato cam footage, expect this same sort of thing for Infinity War.I don't know why people in the comic con trailer thread are complaining about cgi battles.
What else were they expecting from a film adaptation of the Justice League superhero comics? They aren't exactly grounded in realism lmfao.
BadAss2961
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Is there a source download of the trailer yet?
Smokey_Run
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Hell, Thor more or less looks the same way. You can tell these films are just locking themselves away in sound stages now with minimal props for sets and green screen cause the environments don't look natural at all.
Future Foundation
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Which is probably due to the lines of the hologram.
BadAss2961
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Nice... KDash must be using this since those gifs look way too good to be from youtube.
You only see the lines in the legs where a pattern would be. Plus they're gold colored, which fits Supergirl.
On second look, I see the lines creeping into the boots as well. So you're probably right on that front. But that leg is still girly.
Could just be incomplete CGI.
Future Foundation
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But why show that after you've seen Aquaman fighting alongside the League?
Maybe it's in the beginning when Batman is trying to recruit everyone?
I mean, it doesn't make a whole lotta sense that Supes' big reveal in the film is him casually strolling by the batcave after he gets out of his coffin.
They'll show him wake up, he proceeds to go to door to the cave and winds up to punch, cut to Alfred working on the car, two ripples to show he punched through the door, look up, and oh it's Superman.
The bigger question is why the hell is Alfred casually doing auto work when it may be too late for Superman to help.
I'm going frame by frame and there's not a whole lot of stuff to grab from it, but there are some things we can piece together some order of the shots...
First up - The shot of Batman on the gargoyle is probably right before he meets up with Gordon. Notice the same gargoyle's in the upper right of the frame...
Next, the "bank robbery" we see Diana stop, isn't a bank robbery. It's at a court house; notice what the text says where the arrow is pointing: "Central Criminal Court"
This is definitely Lois looking at the broken memorial
Interesting to note that the Amazon's aren't looking at the Mother Box in this shot. For some reason they appear to be facing each other, then turn their attention to the box when it starts to shake...
Diana is in Gotham in this scene. You can see the "Gotham City Bus" blue sign above her head
For some reason, this shot is mirrored. The text is backwards (as well as upside down)...
Best look at Steppenwolf's face
And finally, here's Batman saving the scientists which have gone missing
First up - The shot of Batman on the gargoyle is probably right before he meets up with Gordon. Notice the same gargoyle's in the upper right of the frame...
Next, the "bank robbery" we see Diana stop, isn't a bank robbery. It's at a court house; notice what the text says where the arrow is pointing: "Central Criminal Court"
This is definitely Lois looking at the broken memorial
Interesting to note that the Amazon's aren't looking at the Mother Box in this shot. For some reason they appear to be facing each other, then turn their attention to the box when it starts to shake...
Diana is in Gotham in this scene. You can see the "Gotham City Bus" blue sign above her head
For some reason, this shot is mirrored. The text is backwards (as well as upside down)...
Best look at Steppenwolf's face
And finally, here's Batman saving the scientists which have gone missing
Superman recovers from nuke blast, eyes glow red, cut to the ground, sonic boom followed by a punched Doomsday and the reappearance of Superman.
BadAss2961
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Just seems unlikely that they'd leave a tease like that at the end, knowing people will speculate which secret character it is, only for it to be a bluff.
Smokey_Run
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Yeah, Alfred is outside at the end.
All I'm saying is that he's not necessarily lying about it as people seem to think. Shit changes, and could very well change here in the future. Also he was nowhere near as enthusiastic about directing iirc
Off topic, just saw Dunkirk. Nolan is a fucking MASTER at his craft. Wow
My guess is that it's Bruce learning about the Apokaliptan menace through a member of the Kryptonions who've fought them before. Maybe he retrieves the hologram in the Kryptonian ship from MoS and BvS (the same way Lex learns about alien life).
I think the ship is overturned, which is why cyborg steps in and overrides the ship
Yeah, that makes sense why the text is upside down, but not mirrored, haha. I was going to put that in the pic description but thought it was obvious.